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king hassan;3687216 said:Nah not really, cats had a variety of songs on a album. Dance, political, something for the ladies, comedic shit, straight hip hop. But a whole album, nah.
CirocObama;3687219 said:You know a big difference between then and especially right now? A nigga like Snoop was at like 4 mill a year after Doggystyle came out and still didn't do a feature with every and anyone in the game. I know that Death Row as a whole kinda had that motto but i loved that shit. A nigga gets hot nowadays and all of a sudden every nigga/bitch in the game is a "big fan" and "would love to work with him/her" and the minute said artist fall off popularity wise they don't mention that artist again lol.
I'm not big on beef depending on what type of beef it is but i just love that for example Death Row had their sound and their own look but still fucked with alot of the real cats in the biz, Wu had their own look, own slang and everything, OutKast had their own lil' dungeon thing goin' on, Mobb Deep that their own grimey sound and their own QB thing goin' and so on and so forth. I love that shit.
As big as someone like Dre and RZA were it wasn't like they did beats for every single body in the game at that time, they mostly kept it in-house and that's a good thing. The bad thing is that we possibly missed out on alot of potentially dope collabos but we got instead was niggas who perfected their craft and almost always hit a homerun with tracks they let the public hear.
rapmastermind;3683211 said:Also for the record Biggie did bring the East Back. NaS and Wu did get the ball rolling but quality wasn't the issue for New York. The Fact is between LL's "Mamma said knock you out" which was released in 90, no New York solo emcee went Platinum. New York was in a serious sales drought after all the success from the 80's. Beastie Boys, Tribe, Onyx and Black Sheep saw success as groups but none of them were able to stop Dre and Snoop's as well as Death Row's takeover. It wasn't until "Ready To Die" dropped that all changed. Not only was it the most success solo album for a New York Rapper, it literally shifted the sound of Hip Hop at that time and open the door for other New York Emcees to flourish. So "36 chambers and ILLmatic" started the camp fire, Biggie threw gasoline on it.
CirocObama;3687279 said:Another point i wanted to mention was that niggas forget that Hit Squad was really doing it back in 1991-1992 if you look at it. I mean in 1992 Redman, Das Efx, K-Solo and EPMD all had their albums and/or songs on the charts so they were def doing it then together with Naughty and a few others at the time.
Smo-King Locs;3687332 said:Nauhty by Nature was'nt rippin the charts going plat?
son of 1973;3687357 said:I think he might be right though fam if he talking solo mcs. red went gold. nas did 300,000. krs was doing like 300,000. jeru, lord finesse, keith murray etc, none of them was seeing even 500,000. das efx, pe, maybe onyx went plat but they were groups.
Paul Hate.;3687359 said:I didnt like Das EFX I thought they were corny as fuck..I was like 7 or 8 too.They was fucking bums with dreads to me.I loved EPMD though...
No, niggas did not forget this at all.CirocObama;3687279 said:Another point i wanted to mention was that niggas forget that Hit Squad was really doing it back in 1991-1992 if you look at it. I mean in 1992 Redman, Das Efx, K-Solo and EPMD all had their albums and/or songs on the charts so they were def doing it then together with Naughty and a few others at the time.
Paul Hate.;3687331 said:^Yeah im not against collabos but i dont wanna hear a record with 6 plus songs with features cotdamn...thats a compilation.I tell people the chronic is basically d.r. presents type of album..that aint no regular album to me...
Another thing is they all use the same top 5 mc's...what the fuck..I gotta hear the same cat on every cd?I mean get your money but damn..
king hassan;3687408 said:No, niggas did not forget this at all.
son of 1973;3687405 said:lol i feel you. one of the worst lyrical gimmicks ever. a couple of they joints were kinda raw to me though (east coast, straight from the sewer). and epmd was my favorite group at that time even over pe/nwa (though not by a lot).
CirocObama;3687430 said:I feel you on the "The Chronic" thing but to me Dre is a producer, he ain't a rapper so i don't know why people expect more from it. I just take it as the music dope cuz he ain't an MC, same thing with a nigga like Warren G they're producers first.
Def agree with bolded though smh. It's always "Feat. T.I., Jay-Z, Nicki Minaj, Wayne, Drake, Kanye, Rick Ross" on every damn song. Alot of it has to do with business though. A nigga like Ross been around in the game and niggas act like he wasn't around a few years ago but now they "big fans" of his..gtfoh! What prolly happened is that Khaled and Ross have a relationship (just as artists and/or from their crews street ties) and since Khaled became the president of Def Jam south you started to see Ross more and more on every song, that's prolly what Jeezy talking about when he says "label politics" when discussin' his album bein' pushed back.
CirocObama;3687430 said:I feel you on the "The Chronic" thing but to me Dre is a producer, he ain't a rapper so i don't know why people expect more from it. I just take it as the music dope cuz he ain't an MC, same thing with a nigga like Warren G they're producers first.
Def agree with bolded though smh. It's always "Feat. T.I., Jay-Z, Nicki Minaj, Wayne, Drake, Kanye, Rick Ross" on every damn song. Alot of it has to do with business though. A nigga like Ross been around in the game and niggas act like he wasn't around a few years ago but now they "big fans" of his..gtfoh! What prolly happened is that Khaled and Ross have a relationship (just as artists and/or from their crews street ties) and since Khaled became the president of Def Jam south you started to see Ross more and more on every song, that's prolly what Jeezy talking about when he says "label politics" when discussin' his album bein' pushed back.
Smo-King Locs;3687684 said:Hustlin
Push It To The Limit
Where My Money
Speedin
The Boss
Mafia Music
Magnificent
Money Makes Me Come
Here I Am
ETC.....
The Bottom line, Rozay Has a long consistent track record... and the reason why he came up abruptly over the past 2 years. is the fact that t.i. and weezy were locked up, and ludercris fell off ...
hence allowing him to automatically to fill the void..
son of 1973;3687671 said:another thing that has changed.. i remember amateur groups would be advertised in the source with they little black and white picture and the phone number to thier manager lol. no glossy one page joint, none of that. a lot of southern/midwest groups were trying to put they name out there like that. and if you were trying to get signed, you could walk into label offices. there was no security. you were sending in demo cassettes recorded on analog 4 track machines in somebody basement becuase most dudes couldnt afford the studio. the studio was 100/hr and up back then. funny sh*t, they were selling 8 second samplers for like 500 dollars lol. you can sample for hours now, what a difference. oh thinking back also scarface was huge in philly, i dont know about ny but he was the first south artist to really command the east's respect that i remember.
