What stops you from believing in Evolution?

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VIBE86;1434588 said:
How come for some people in history we have written proof of them or pictures, art etc of them but of Jesus (the most important in the world) there isn't ONE speck of any evidence of him? The Bible proves NOTHING. How come no others have written about him outside the bible saying he at least did do this or that? How come NO image of him exists?

LOL. If there was a lasting image of Jesus, it would be worshipped as an idol. You do know the 10 commandments right?

You need prayer vibe, can I pray for you?
 
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DoUwant2go2Heaven?;1436764 said:
LOL. If there was a lasting image of Jesus, it would be worshipped as an idol. You do know the 10 commandments right?

You need prayer vibe, can I pray for you?

There's not even a description, why not? The MOST important man in the bible has NO description as a man on earth who walked and did miracles. That is something else, isn't it? And you say it's an "idol" that would be worshiped, do you not realize a cross is pretty much the same thing? You don't have to bow down in front of the thing, having it in your house and you know the meaning is significant, is an idol no matter how you put it. The churches, 99% of churches, sell idols. They sell fake images of Jesus, the whole "born in a manger" thing statues, angels etc. All those are sold, bought and placed "nicely" by many Christians. THAT is also worship of an idol. The very thing you read about, worship, pray and go to church for is now in your house. You don't have to literally bow down to the thing. So either way it's bull.

Can you pray for me? Yeah, I don't see why you can't.
 
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VIBE86;1436851 said:
There's not even a description, why not? The MOST important man in the bible has NO description as a man on earth who walked and did miracles. That is something else, isn't it? And you say it's an "idol" that would be worshiped, do you not realize a cross is pretty much the same thing? You don't have to bow down in front of the thing, having it in your house and you know the meaning is significant, is an idol no matter how you put it. The churches, 99% of churches, sell idols. They sell fake images of Jesus, the whole "born in a manger" thing statues, angels etc. All those are sold, bought and placed "nicely" by many Christians. THAT is also worship of an idol. The very thing you read about, worship, pray and go to church for is now in your house. You don't have to literally bow down to the thing. So either way it's bull.

Can you pray for me? Yeah, I don't see why you can't.

There is a desciption of Jesus Christ. Read Revelation. We no longer know Him after the flesh, because He is now GLORIFIED. He is God my friend. Words can not describe His beauty, majesty, and splendor. But 1 day soon, all eyes will see Him. Halleluajah!

Give me specifics for your prayer request. We have to call it as it is.
 
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DoUwant2go2Heaven?;1436878 said:
There is a desciption of Jesus Christ. Read Revelation. We no longer know Him after the flesh, because He is now GLORIFIED. He is God my friend. Words can not describe His beauty, majesty, and splendor. But 1 day soon, all eyes will see Him. Halleluajah!

Give me specifics for your prayer request. We have to call it as it is.

There's not even a description, why not? The MOST important man in the bible has NO description as a man on earth who walked and did miracles.

This is why I stated what I did. I know the the description in Revelation. I do know the Bible, you should know that.

It's just strange that the whole reason is Jesus, everything revolves around Jesus and the reason he was sent. So if that's the case, why does nothing of him exist? (other than the spirit DoU)

Where's his tomb? Where's anything that can trace back to Jesus? Nothing, just find that strange is all. I mean think about it. If you said to a police officer someone broke into your house, you need evidence right? Otherwise they'll not believe you and/or think you're crazy.

Like I said if Revelation comes true I'll have a change of heart. I've asked for many signs from God, I've yet to see one come up.
 
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kai_valya;1436907 said:
saying you don't believe in evolution is like saying you don't believe in gravity. there's no disputing facts, and it just shows a person's ignorance when they say retarded stuff like that

Did gravity evolve?
 
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VIBE86;1436922 said:
This is why I stated what I did. I know the the description in Revelation. I do know the Bible, you should know that.

It's just strange that the whole reason is Jesus, everything revolves around Jesus and the reason he was sent. So if that's the case, why does nothing of him exist? (other than the spirit DoU)

Where's his tomb? Where's anything that can trace back to Jesus? Nothing, just find that strange is all. I mean think about it. If you said to a police officer someone broke into your house, you need evidence right? Otherwise they'll not believe you and/or think you're crazy.

Like I said if Revelation comes true I'll have a change of heart. I've asked for many signs from God, I've yet to see one come up.

Its not strange at all. Human beings need physical evidence for everything. Thats why God says, the Just shall live by faith. If the things you listed were still around today, they would be idolized just like the golden calf that the Israelites made in the wilderness.

God knows what He is doing. And I trust Him. Evidence for His existence has clearly been given to me by the transformation of my life. Glory to God. If any man be in Christ, he is a new creature: old things are passed away; behold, all things are become new.
 
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VIBE86;1436851 said:
There's not even a description, why not? The MOST important man in the bible has NO description as a man on earth who walked and did miracles. That is something else, isn't it? And you say it's an "idol" that would be worshiped, do you not realize a cross is pretty much the same thing? You don't have to bow down in front of the thing, having it in your house and you know the meaning is significant, is an idol no matter how you put it. The churches, 99% of churches, sell idols. They sell fake images of Jesus, the whole "born in a manger" thing statues, angels etc. All those are sold, bought and placed "nicely" by many Christians. THAT is also worship of an idol. The very thing you read about, worship, pray and go to church for is now in your house. You don't have to literally bow down to the thing. So either way it's bull.

Can you pray for me? Yeah, I don't see why you can't.

That documentary I posted describes why it is there is no physical description of him pretty well. Although DoU would never watch it for the answer.
 
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DoUwant2go2Heaven?;1437435 said:
So how did gravity come into being? What made it?

Also, the fossil record supports a global flood.

Gravity is a natural force, it came into being with the universe. The universe came into being because of the big bang.

My personal belief is that God created and upholds the universe and its laws, but that cannot be proven.

No, the fossil record actually does the opposite of that - it goes against the literal interpretation a Noahic flood. There was a large localized flood in Mesopotamia, but not the entire world.

kai_valya;1437508 said:
what the hell are you talking about. i'm making the point that both are theories. people try to play like since it's a theory, it's not really true. the theory of evolution is based on real, tangible scientific evidence that can't be denied just like gravity can't be denied. i'm talking about science and fact, carbon-dating and the fossil records are real and there is no way you can deny something that is fact.

evolution does not in anyway discredit god, only a narrow-minded, scientifically illiterate person would think so.

Exactly, holy books should not interpret science. Science interprets science.
 
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DoUwant2go2Heaven?;1437435 said:
So how did gravity come into being? What made it?

Also, the fossil record supports a global flood.

The rotation of the planet creates part of gravity, the other part is the dent in the fabric of space from the planet resting on it.

The second part is explained here in one these videos, not sure which part but watched in on the history channel
[video=youtube;6F11V5QWGTA]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6F11V5QWGTA[/video]

I know these are demons explaining lies but yea.
 
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Dick_Knubbler;1437451 said:
I can't believe in evolution simply because of Sharks...them fuckers didn't evolve

This is an excellent observation. Several species have not change over 10s of millions of years some sea turtles and crocodiles for instance.

The answer lies in the fact these species have remained in relatively stable environments which has minimized there evolutionary changes. Sharks have seen changes of the years but these are trivial compared to other species. Humans for instance arose from something very structurally different 5 or 6 million years ago whereas the shark was nearly identical. Some species evolve to such a point that they are very strongly adapted to their existing environment. IF that environment does not see large changes the species will not see much movement from an evolutionary point of view.
 
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whar67;1438150 said:
This is an excellent observation. Several species have not change over 10s of millions of years some sea turtles and crocodiles for instance.

The answer lies in the fact these species have remained in relatively stable environments which has minimized there evolutionary changes. Sharks have seen changes of the years but these are trivial compared to other species. Humans for instance arose from something very structurally different 5 or 6 million years ago whereas the shark was nearly identical. Some species evolve to such a point that they are very strongly adapted to their existing environment. IF that environment does not see large changes the species will not see much movement from an evolutionary point of view.

Well there is the theory that evolution took place because animals had to figure out ways to avoid being the prey of other animals.

Outside of prehistoric dino's the Shark never really had a natural predator so didn't need to change in order to protect itself.

It's also hard to see evolution of Sharks because very few fossils exist, the only real evidence we have to say Sharks existed at certain times are their teeth, and through teeth alone it's hard to see any kind of change.
 
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fortyacres&amule;1438192 said:
Evolution the closest thing to the truth

But fuck that racist cracka Darwin and his eugenics beliefs

While other took Darwin's idea and applied them to 'breeding better people' Darwin was always quite leery of the concept.
 
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whar67;1438237 said:
While other took Darwin's idea and applied them to 'breeding better people' Darwin was always quite leery of the concept.

Truth, Francis Galton is the one who really wanted to get into breeding people to make the "best" ones and was the one that Hitler was a fan of.
 
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KTULU IS BACK;1439610 said:
Hitler did not believe in evolution.

He believed he was on a mission from God.

Just saying.

Yea, but also believed that genetics were in place to mix and match to your liking.
 
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