What Rapper wont be around next Year...?????

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genstasia;1470281 said:
Not what we are talkin about... Waka is more relevent than TI.... Relevency is the name of the game...

lol...that's why he sold 35,000...stop playing
 
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Cain_Marko;1470164 said:
Dog Lik's was my group back then but AMG was my nigga lol

[video=youtube;dKBUUXm0eow]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dKBUUXm0eow[/video]

Muthafuckin classic.

AMG was my shit, I feel guilty for playing "jiggable pie" in the cafeteria and getting in trouble LMAO ROFL Oh shit!!

jamacia;1470140 said:
anything that can get cole a crossover hit is fine. A collabo with Chrisette Michele would be great

jay z should have released a video for a star is born

JayZ has other priorities.

J.Cole could be better than JayZ, but JayZ would rather sabotage his carreer to uphold his legacy.

Remember were you heard it first: 2011 is a make me or break me year in HIPHOP!
 
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hrap-120;1470184 said:
Thats what I want.

To me Chrisette Michelle is what Mary J Blige used to be, she provides that feminine energy and soul-sista sound that can make a track timeless.

I really want him to succeed, I want these labels to see that the South is more than just chitlins and shotguns.

Realisticy his options are slim, Wale failed with Lady Gaga, and the big-wigs look at that shit when they give you a budget and sponser your project.

I know you will laugh but I think a Drake & J. Cole collabo would be tremendous...but then again I think Sean Garret and Keri Hilson collabo would too :(

labels aren't patient anymore which is somewhat understandable but i feel wale and j cole have the tools to have longevity in this game. so basically the labels need to set a certain number for what they feel cole and wale can realistically achieve and see what happens.

wale put up decent amount of numbers the first time for the label to invest in him again, and cole is getting started.
 
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shenco;1470280 said:
Ok, but that was in the past. What have you done for me lately? Dudes been in jail for the most part of 2 years

like I said, I'm not saying the dude will have a multi-plat album, but he will be able to move some records. cats act like he's Rakim or something trying to release an album today. People know T.I. & they will get his album. you may not get it, but I believe 500,000 people will...that's the only point I'm making. he will have an album come out next yr & I believe it will go at least gold. cats said Drake's buzz had faded & he still almost went gold off 1 wk so I'm suppose to believe T.I. can't move 500,000 units in 2011?
 
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hrap-120;1470298 said:
Muthafuckin classic.

AMG was my shit, I feel guilty for playing "jiggable pie" in the cafeteria and getting in trouble LMAO ROFL Oh shit!!

JayZ has other priorities.

J.Cole could be better than JayZ, but JayZ would rather sabotage his carreer to uphold his legacy.

Remember were you heard it first: 2011 is a make me or break me year in HIPHOP!

Really? Jay Z sabotaging careers now? Lmao stop it 5
 
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genstasia;1470343 said:
And thats why he preformed at the BET HipHop awards, (Where was Clifford?), been on 106 and Park 3 times in 1 month, (Where was Clifford?) Had songs played on the Radio non stop, (Self explainatory LMAO) and dont mention the clubs...... His core fanbase just dont buy records.... And Waka is trash dookie BTW but cant deny his relevency in todays Hip hop...

T.I. would move 100,000 on his worse day. Jay didn't perform so I guess he's not relevant either. I said T.I. would move 500,000 records. I didn't say he was the most relevant rapper in the world. You know T.I. would move more than 35,000 records his first wk or whatever Waka moved so I guess that makes him more relevant, right? No, he's not on 106 & Park so he's not relevant.
 
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genstasia;1470343 said:
And thats why he preformed at the BET HipHop awards, (Where was Clifford?), been on 106 and Park 3 times in 1 month, (Where was Clifford?) Had songs played on the Radio non stop, (Self explainatory LMAO) and dont mention the clubs...... His core fanbase just dont buy records.... And Waka is trash dookie BTW but cant deny his relevency in todays Hip hop...

T.I. is at a point in his career where he doesn't need to be on 106 to sell records.

I didn't like the Keri Hilson song much, but that and another single (we don't know what hits he already made before turning himself in) should be enough to get him near platinum.

T.I. might be a B list rapper now, but who knows. Its all about what videos/features/songs that make it for this next album before he has to turn himself in
 
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genstasia;1470381 said:
so why hasnt he put out his album? And when he put it out it's gonna be on his worst day..... TI has no hit single this year no memorable moments except him getting arrest again.... Nobody cares about him... Except u.... Jail didnt help him before it aint gonna help him now... Face it TI is a B List rapper...

The jail/gun charges might've actually helped Paper Trails sales. I know he had Rhianna and Timberlake on singles for that album, but the entire controversy/MTV special was big too

lol, did T.I. diss you at an after party or something!
 
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It doesn't matter how much respect T.I. had before the incidents. If he keeps going to jail over and over his relevance will fade each time he does. You can already see the effects. Homie wasn't at Wayne status to begin with so what makes y'all think he gon come back and people gonna anticipate it like he weezy?
 
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genstasia;1470444 said:
This is my main point... but some how im mad at TI.... *shrugs* niggas dont like the truth...

how can you speak the truth when you don't know it yet? he may not move 500,000, but you don't know that yet. I made references of past times when cats said drake wouldn't do something & he did. I'm not comparing his buzz to Drake I'm just saying you don't know what will happen until it does happen. he may not move what I said he would move. I don't know & you don't either. you act like your word is the gospel. I have said I don't know what he will do, but you make it seem like you're the machine behind the music & since you said it won't happen then it won't happen. I hope the brother does continue to be successful whether it's music or film. I like his music & I think the brother still will be successful. you're acting like I'm saying he'll be the biggest artist next year. This is not what I'm saying. I said he still has fans (you're not one of them...I understand) & I believe they will get his album whether it comes out tomorrow, Christmas or 6 mths from now.

I've had fun with this little debate. I have a research paper due so I have to end this now. hopefully, when his cd comes out, we can rehash this discussion & then, we'll know who is right.
 
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Real talk the only reason Wayne and TI stayed relevant during their jail time was because they had videos and songs being released throughout their stay in prison. This kept them in the public eye and made it feel as though they weren't really gone. This time around Tip was out for like what? 3 months? How many tracks and videos could he have done in that time period to help him stay in the public eye during this stay in prison. His relevance will take a hit. Trust me
 
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j. cole wont be around fam, he has 0 charisma

TIP was on his way out last year

Lil wayne finna havta go too and let drake be the leaing man

young based god may fizzle

rick ross's gimmick finna be up real soon word to young jeezy
 
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thetruth391;1470546 said:
j. cole wont be around fam, he has 0 charisma ..Cole has more charisma than drake robotic ass...belle dat shawty

TIP was on his way out last year ??????????????????? T.I was at his highest as a commercial artist last year

Lil wayne finna havta go too and let drake be the leaing man.... wayne is more diverse than drake

young based god may fizzle dude is just gettin started

rick ross's gimmick finna be up real soon word to young jeezy rozay is just coming in to his own...good music trumps all, jeezy was using the same wack beats, wack flo, wack content since the 1st album...Rawse have evolved alot since port of miami adding new dimension to his arsenal each year...and then surviving scandals that would of took a toll in other rappers carrers , but some how he managed to even become stronger...I only see 2 rappers staying relevant till 2015+ Kanye is One N Then Rawse
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thetruth391;1470546 said:
j. cole wont be around fam, he has 0 charisma

TIP was on his way out last year

Lil wayne finna havta go too and let drake be the leaing man

young based god may fizzle

rick ross's gimmick finna be up real soon word to young jeezy

There is so much wrong with this post. Some of y'all cats need to be shot
 
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genstasia;1470613 said:
i was answering the title... And he wont matter next year.... not getting 11 months prolly doin 9 by then the year would be over and somebody else will be big and if he doesnt have a hit then he lost...

why do u hate the king shawty???? what's happening ? the king goin b out 4 anotha year.. drop anotha album that have the streets on n retire 2 make movies... i wouldn't be surprised if homie locked himself up cuz he ain't felt safe in the streets...the nigga is probably paranoid..
 
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