What Makes "Supreme Clientele" A Classic?

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its the perfect balance of infinite rhyme structure, progressive NY production, style and substance for me. also you gotta understand where Ghost was coming from with this album. look at how he lyrically was redlining his whole career after 36 chambers. he held his own on OB4CL, he created a whole new unorthodox style on ironman, he flipped that style on ironman into a more poetic, introspective version on Wu Forever and on Supreme Clientle he took it to another dimension lyrically. Shakesperian like. intricately coded and dense. Supreme Clientele is an album that made me look deeper into study of rules of English language and literary writing tools that the schools never taught me. you can remember all the cliche jay z lines about selling 92 bricks but does he got a one liner that is totally fresh, original, potent but unfamiliar like the "hit mics like ted koppel". lines and references like those from ghost stick in your head like seeds and you do whatever it takes to break down the line plus wonder why he said it and where does it fit in the the lyrical flow of the verse. just like i said in that why cant j cole go in like ghost did on windpipe thread ghostface style at the time of SC with an infinite flow. he mastered all the variables of rapping. its hard to describe it on the IC but if you really FEEL hip hop you can see how Ghostface masters time and structure variables in rhymeform.
 
tompetrez3;4491517 said:
its the perfect balance of infinite rhyme structure, progressive NY production, style and substance for me. also you gotta understand where Ghost was coming from with this album. look at how he lyrically was redlining his whole career after 36 chambers. he held his own on OB4CL, he created a whole new unorthodox style on ironman, he flipped that style on ironman into a more poetic, introspective version on Wu Forever and on Supreme Clientle he took it to another dimension lyrically. Shakesperian like. intricately coded and dense. Supreme Clientele is an album that made me look deeper into study of rules of English language and literary writing tools that the schools never taught me. you can remember all the cliche jay z lines about selling 92 bricks but does he got a one liner that is totally fresh, original, potent but unfamiliar like the "hit mics like ted koppel". lines and references like those from ghost stick in your head like seeds and you do whatever it takes to break down the line plus wonder why he said it and where does it fit in the the lyrical flow of the verse. just like i said in that why cant j cole go in like ghost did on windpipe thread ghostface style at the time of SC with an infinite flow. he mastered all the variables of rapping. its hard to describe it on the IC but if you really FEEL hip hop you can see how Ghostface masters time and structure variables in rhymeform.

damn are you a writer?
 
Cabana_Da_Don;4490963 said:
Shit was fly from the top to the bottom.The only album that came close was More Fish.
I liked Fishscale better. I only liked about six songs on SC but More Fish was pretty decent.

 
its classic bcuz he was walking down the street in the rain in his new air max

he wasn't looking he splashed in a puddle and fucked em up

a bitch laughed, his first thought was to beat the bitch

but he kept his composure and walked away graacefully

i mean got damn

if u can't see how that shit is fly as fuck then you should go to a justin biebier board or some shit
 
Cabana_Da_Don;4490963 said:
Shit was fly from the top to the bottom.The only album that came close was More Fish.

Serious? Not that More Fish was wack but Ironman is a classic too. Ironman and Supreme Clientele are my favorite joints from Ghost.

 
CirocObama;4492278 said:
Cabana_Da_Don;4490963 said:
Shit was fly from the top to the bottom.The only album that came close was More Fish.

Serious? Not that More Fish was wack but Ironman is a classic too. Ironman and Supreme Clientele are my favorite joints from Ghost.

I agree. Ironman and SC are flawless imo.

 
SOWETO;4490472 said:
if you dont get it, you dont get it.

did I say I didn't lol

jus asked a question & seems like sum of yall can't even give a reason why

Disciplined InSight;4491457 said:
Brian B.;4491409 said:
Disciplined InSight;4490436 said:
The cohesiveness of the album..even though there were different producers on that album (JuJu of The Beatnuts, Wu-Elements such as Allah Mathematics, Carlos Broady, Inspectah Deck and others) RZA executive produced the album and gave it that sound that was missing from the other Clansmen's sophomore albums.

Although a number of producers, such as JuJu from The Beatnuts, Hassan of the U.M.C.'s, The Hitmen, and several Wu-Tang affiliates are credited for production, RZA and Ghostface Killah did the majority of the production and mixing for the album, as they "re-compiled" and "re-worked" them. In regards to this, RZA explained "Usually a producer comes in, makes a beat, mixes it, and gives the direction for it. But not with this album. That's why you get that special sound. I just needle and threaded the beats all together.

Plus being that it was Ghost's sophomore album, it eclipsed his debut beating the jinx and came out at the time when most of the Wu's sophomore albums were meh...Ghost singlehandledly made the Wu relevant with that particular album.

this quote, esp. the bolded & italicized, basically says it's cause of the beats.. unless Im missin sumthin

Okay to simplify it more:

RZA's soul stirring erratic production + Ghostface's fast and high pitched, stylized non-sequitur's=CLASSIC ALBUM

hahaha

to simplify it more:

basically the beats

 
Brian B.;4493382 said:
SOWETO;4490472 said:
if you dont get it, you dont get it.

did I say I didn't lol

jus asked a question & seems like sum of yall can't even give a reason why

Disciplined InSight;4491457 said:
Brian B.;4491409 said:
Disciplined InSight;4490436 said:
The cohesiveness of the album..even though there were different producers on that album (JuJu of The Beatnuts, Wu-Elements such as Allah Mathematics, Carlos Broady, Inspectah Deck and others) RZA executive produced the album and gave it that sound that was missing from the other Clansmen's sophomore albums.

Although a number of producers, such as JuJu from The Beatnuts, Hassan of the U.M.C.'s, The Hitmen, and several Wu-Tang affiliates are credited for production, RZA and Ghostface Killah did the majority of the production and mixing for the album, as they "re-compiled" and "re-worked" them. In regards to this, RZA explained "Usually a producer comes in, makes a beat, mixes it, and gives the direction for it. But not with this album. That's why you get that special sound. I just needle and threaded the beats all together.

Plus being that it was Ghost's sophomore album, it eclipsed his debut beating the jinx and came out at the time when most of the Wu's sophomore albums were meh...Ghost singlehandledly made the Wu relevant with that particular album.

this quote, esp. the bolded & italicized, basically says it's cause of the beats.. unless Im missin sumthin

Okay to simplify it more:

RZA's soul stirring erratic production + Ghostface's fast and high pitched, stylized non-sequitur's=CLASSIC ALBUM

hahaha

to simplify it more:

basically the beats

u ask for reasons why, ppl quote up lyrics, ppl explain ghost's style, u just refuse to read all that and keep saying "oh so just the beats?"

what more do you want ppl to say? if you dont like it then go and do you. you dont see me asking you why u like bieber so much.
 
I never thought it was a classic, but he had some good cuts on it. I wasn't into Wu like that. I like the 36 Chambers album, OB4CL & Liquid Swordz, but I stopped really listening to them after that. I would give each album a quick listen, but I never felt the need to repeat any of them. I do think Ghost is a good rapper though.
 
It was Ghost charisma man. The way he sounded, he was so hype on this album. So to me it is a combination of dope beats and and ill charisma and rhyme style thats just classic. and damn even when i listen to it now i dont skip nothing.
 
Brian B.;4493382 said:
SOWETO;4490472 said:
if you dont get it, you dont get it.

did I say I didn't lol

jus asked a question & seems like sum of yall can't even give a reason why

Disciplined InSight;4491457 said:
Brian B.;4491409 said:
Disciplined InSight;4490436 said:
The cohesiveness of the album..even though there were different producers on that album (JuJu of The Beatnuts, Wu-Elements such as Allah Mathematics, Carlos Broady, Inspectah Deck and others) RZA executive produced the album and gave it that sound that was missing from the other Clansmen's sophomore albums.

Although a number of producers, such as JuJu from The Beatnuts, Hassan of the U.M.C.'s, The Hitmen, and several Wu-Tang affiliates are credited for production, RZA and Ghostface Killah did the majority of the production and mixing for the album, as they "re-compiled" and "re-worked" them. In regards to this, RZA explained "Usually a producer comes in, makes a beat, mixes it, and gives the direction for it. But not with this album. That's why you get that special sound. I just needle and threaded the beats all together.

Plus being that it was Ghost's sophomore album, it eclipsed his debut beating the jinx and came out at the time when most of the Wu's sophomore albums were meh...Ghost singlehandledly made the Wu relevant with that particular album.

this quote, esp. the bolded & italicized, basically says it's cause of the beats.. unless Im missin sumthin

Okay to simplify it more:

RZA's soul stirring erratic production + Ghostface's fast and high pitched, stylized non-sequitur's=CLASSIC ALBUM

hahaha

to simplify it more:

basically the beats and lyrics

Fixed for accuracy.

Not too many appreciates Ghost's non-sequitur/coded style of rap. Even though Ghost understood it at the time he wrote for that album and today he'll never decipher what he wrote back then, doesn't take away from the album. If anything, every lyric on that album meant something if you understood it or not because it was code-speak.

So when he was spitting shit like this:

Aiyyo spiced out Calvin Coolidge, loungin with 7 duelers

The Great Adventures of Slick, lickin with 6 rugers

Rock those, big boy Bulotti's out of Woodridge

Porch for the biggest beer, season giraffe ribs

Rotissiere ropes, hickory scented mint scented glaze

Perfected find truth within self, let's smoke

All hail to my hands, 50 thou' appraisal

Dirty nose with the nasal drip, click flipped on fam

Dancin with Blanch and them bitches, flickin goose pictures

Kick down the ace of spades, snatch Jack riches

Olsive compulsive lies flies with my name on it

Dick made the cover now count, how many veins on it

Scooby snack jurassic plastic gas booby trap

Ten years workin for me, you wanna tap shit?

Bung bung bung! Your bell went rung rung rung!

Staple-Land's where the ambulance don't come


You can sit there and let it rack your brain trying to figure that shit out and thinking why is Supreme Clientele a classic with lyrics like those but trust if you know Ghost and the way he spits, recognizing it as a Hip Hop art, then your life will be easier for the sake of it.

 
Its an individual thing. One person may think a cd is classic and another doesnt. So the answer would be because somebody thinks its classic. Nothing is universally looked at the same way by everybody.
 
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