What is with gays and their feeling of entitlement?

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rap doctor;4079264 said:
everyone has options

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dont try to play me

i purposely watched how i worded that

chossing to be gay is no different than me choosing my socks in the morning
 
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Why is he bringing up interracial marriage? I would have had the same argument. The world doesn't owe you acceptance. It doesn't. It simply owes to not discriminate against you regardless of what people believe. I think the gay lobby be on some bully shit.
 
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rap doctor;4079068 said:
so why would i sympathize with somebody over something they chose
well lets dissect that for a second.. you swear there's this choice gay people make that renders you exempt from all sympathetic attachment from that fellow human being...

1. common sense SHOULD tell you that no one would choose to be something that would be detrimental to their health.. That goes against the main function of the oldest part of the human brain.. It's known as the R - Complex & it dictates fight or flight. Self preservation is 1/2 of the core that forms human instinct unless of course, you're chemically imbalanced, thus suicidal. picking homosexuality for your life when heterosexuality provides such sanctuary is tantamount to choosing to be non-white in a white man's world. regardless of what people's mouths say, no one would be black if a choice in who we are was made available.

... but all that isn't to say you're completely wrong when assuming there's choices to be made...

2. gay people, when struggling with the harsh realities of coming out, have a lot of people to consider.. so that often leads to the cross roads of honesty & dishonesty.. the one solitary choice we do have in all this is deciding if we are going to:

a. lie to everyone who doesn't know you're gay for the rest of your [as well as their] natural life & subsequently live a life of constant fear & self hatred..

or

b. learn to be honest with who you permanently are & then learn to love yourself.. because only then does the understanding that we're all different specifically to teach us to love one another despite those differences will come..

the kingdom of the Infinite isn't in a dusty book @ the bottom of a stack of dusty books down @ the dusty ass church house.. it's in the capacity for limitless compassion, consideration, & the sympathy essential for understanding the differences in the diverse people around us..

look... i could go on all night but the truth is, only you can set you free.

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haute;4079123 said:
Cosign

The I've suffered the most so look at me tactic is annoying no matter who does it

You're not gaining any ground or changing anyones mind by being a victim
but notice how many times it was done while people shook they shit in agreement before i came along, all outta pocket by doing the unthinkable & quoting actual facts to back up what i was saying... apparently making it note worthy...
Mvpbrodie93;4067085 said:
I just don't like how they try to compare the gay rights movement and the civil right movement

"your black you should know about discrimination"

Shit pisses me off

copperkid27;4067061 said:
if someone took offense to the way u were u would take offense too...its a natural human reaction....doesnt bother me as long as they dont compare there plight with others
Q45T;4067136 said:
I've never liked that shit... and all that "African Americans should be more sympathetic towards homosexuals" is bullshit.

hmm.
haute;4079123 said:
The fact is our country will evolve as many others have, and this won't be an issue some day

But when that day comes no one is going to champion the person(s) who made their argument by comparing themselves to someone else's plight
the people brave enough to speak on shit that might hurt to hear are rarely championed.. & the ones who are don't always deserve it in high insight.... MLK' was championed as a dependable & trust worthy voice of a generation @ the same moments he was fucking around on his wife.. a champion doesn't try to unify the world while betraying the closest person to him/her..

the reason for the comparison was to set the record straight in case everyone here besides myself forgot how to add, subtract, & read the newspaper.. in jamaica right now, i'd be murdered on sight.. in the middle east, i would be murdered, if not on sight, not long after my arrest. iran has a covert police force dedicated to hunting down homosexuals who will face a public hanging for the crime of loving someone else if caught. many parts of africa would lock me up for 25 years because of something i have no choice in.

^so pardon my defense & it's abrasiveness.. but enough is enough.
 
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Idi Amin Dada;4079467 said:
Why is he bringing up interracial marriage? I would have had the same argument.
because like the issue of gay unions, inter-racial marriage was @ one time illegal but the law was rightfully deemed unconstitutional & therefore overturned.. these couples were denied the right to a pursuit of happiness guaranteed by our nation's founding documents but thankfully was made right. my issue is with the obvious hypocritical dynamic of cyphering off rights to those who politicians think will work well in terms of votes to float them into the next however many years... the whole time pandering to the dim witted bigots who actually think homosexuals are that way because they have gay demons who control them.. or as you put it:
Idi Amin Dada;4079467 said:
The world doesn't owe you acceptance. It doesn't. It simply owes to not discriminate against you regardless of what people believe..

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Kay.;4079515 said:
Same thing, different wording.
Unless acceptance to you = endorsement.

No it's not. I can dislike gays all I want. As long as I know that I can't legally withhold any rights from them. I can not want them around me. I can find them repulsive. Shit, i can even walk around all day calling them "faggots".

One of my fraternity advisors is really religious. And he put it best. He said his faith tells him that homosexuality is wrong. His faith tells him not to believe in it. But at work, his faith is unimportant.

That's how I view the shit. I might see no problem with it, but I don't have a problem with someone who does disagree with it. It's their right. Short of discrimination, they should be allowed to have that right.

Maybe that's why niggas call me a coon, cuz racism doesn't bother me either? You wanna hate niggas? Hate niggas. No sweat off my back.

Rhetorically speaking, the civil rights movement did not seek to change opinions. If you listen to all of MLK's speeches, he spoke of the instiutionalized racism. Cuz he knows if we break down the institutions, the culture follows suit. The gays rights movement has it backwards. They wanna influence the people to change the institution. I think it should be a strictly constitutional argument.
 
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CapitalC;4080116 said:
Wow did that nigga say he chose to be straight.....what type of shit...
I'm a straight black dude and I don't understand how the black civil rights movement isn't the same as what the gays are going through today...
Like it's literally the same thing to me....
then again somebody on here started a thread wanting a straight pride parade....which made me think about another thread that asked why it isn't cool to have slaves but people got pets...
Please tell me I'm just not gettin the joke...

the fact that you think its the same means you should shut the fuck uo on the topic

@Rusty im not reading your titanagraphs...better learn to paraphrase but i did see you say "why would anybody choose something detrimental to their health" ?

Why do people commit crimes knowing the possible outcome is life imprisonment ?
Why do people smoke cigarettes knowing they're bad for you ?

both detrimental to their health, no ?
 
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Idi Amin Dada;4079974 said:
Rhetorically speaking, the civil rights movement did not seek to change opinions.
actually, whether or not that was their intended effect, the argument that we all as american citizens should under the constitution be afforded equal rights no matter our race, creed or color has a residual effect over the course of a generation or two to in fact do just that.. & as getting older has a tendency to do, the extremely hardline opinions one might hold dear tend to soften as the years pass by...

depending on the person of course..
 
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rap doctor;4080273 said:
@Rusty im not reading your titanagraphs...better learn to paraphrase
what? too many big words for you??
rap doctor;4080273 said:
but i did see you say "why would anybody choose something detrimental to their health" ?
so which is it.. because "im not reading your titanagraphs." [lmgao @ titanagraphs] would mean you'd be completely unable to cherry pick one sentence to pick apart..

wait.. you do know what the word "not" means, right?
rap doctor;4080273 said:
Why do people commit crimes knowing the possible outcome is life imprisonment ?
because their life is most likely shit anyways so a life sentence would mean they @ least have 3 meals to eat per day & a warm place to sleep?? it's called taking a calculated risk..
rap doctor;4080273 said:
Why do people smoke cigarettes knowing they're bad for you ?
because nicotine provides a jolt your nervous system that it craves after continued use & that's besides the fact that they [in some folks opinion] make you look cool plus they don't kill you instantly..

what's this? a dumb question marathon?
rap doctor;4080273 said:
both detrimental to their health, no ?
they could be.. there's 90 year old muthafuckas who've smoked all their lives & still have no traces of cancer to show for it.. smoking doesn't effect everyone the same..

breaking the law is a thrill for some besides the fact that it's their only viable source of income... i sold coke, weed, lsd, x & whatever else i could get my hands on starting from the 6th grade on till i bought my first house @ the age of 23.. i could even take your playstation & modify it so it could read the japanese games that are waaaay more violent & bloody than their american released counterparts for the low low price of 75 bucks.. never caught a dope case either.. dealing drugs was a choice & that can be proven because I made a concerted effort to quit once i got to where i was good..... being sexually attracted to the same sex or the planned discontinuation of homosexuality isn't something that you can map out on a life goals chart & then just simply pray away.. that's why suicide rates are the highest amongst gay people.. because we don't have the luxury of switching off a significant portion of who we are because it would make you more comfortable.. otherwise, there would be no public hangings of gay iranian men because who would risk their life to see what a dick feels like up their ass..

comprende??

.. or did i exceed your word processing limit for the day??
 
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IM not going to argue with you on what its like to live the fags life cause i never lived it. I know its a choice, you think you were born that way......word to Gaga

In the end, you cant prove me wrong or vice versa
 
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rap doctor;4080440 said:
IM not going to argue with you on what its like to live the fags life cause i never lived it. I know its a choice, you think you were born that way......word to Gaga

In the end, you cant prove me wrong or vice versa
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rusty shackleford;4080520 said:
well actually, both
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shit.. the coolest gay person i know happens to be my mom..

family just taking L's all around
 
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rusty shackleford;4079803 said:
but notice how many times it was done while people shook they shit in agreement before i came along, all outta pocket by doing the unthinkable & quoting actual facts to back up what i was saying... apparently making it note worthy...

hmm.
the people brave enough to speak on shit that might hurt to hear are rarely championed.. & the ones who are don't always deserve it in high insight.... MLK' was championed as a dependable & trust worthy voice of a generation @ the same moments he was fucking around on his wife.. a champion doesn't try to unify the world while betraying the closest person to him/her..

the reason for the comparison was to set the record straight in case everyone here besides myself forgot how to add, subtract, & read the newspaper.. in jamaica right now, i'd be murdered on sight.. in the middle east, i would be murdered, if not on sight, not long after my arrest. iran has a covert police force dedicated to hunting down homosexuals who will face a public hanging for the crime of loving someone else if caught. many parts of africa would lock me up for 25 years because of something i have no choice in.

^so pardon my defense & it's abrasiveness.. but enough is enough.

Again
If the point is to gain equal rights

And playing a victim hasn't gained that for you

Then that paragraph did nothing more than prove my point

Yes other people brought up that point, so you're going to run with it because....

I mean I'm guessing your intelligent enough to know that you don't have to tit for tat or run with the crowd to make a point

As for MLK, he marched for civil rights not monogamy, what he did in his marriage will never negate what he did for that masses, no more than any gay rights activist. And I'm sure if I looked I could find a few that don't have a perfect image when it comes to their family and loved ones. We're talking about humans not some deity, so stop the silliness

The reason those who play victim aren't championed is because victims dont do shit that's worth remembering therefore they never accomplish anything on the scale that actual leaders do. And this crosses racial boundaries, and sexual preferences. People like the person who engages and inspires action, not the one who constantly compares himself to somebody else

You can keep comparing victim wounds all day but Again this is why people stop listening, which what you want people to do in the first place.

The fact is gays deserve rights period, regardless of what blacks/jews/ or anybody else went through or accomplished

Your struggle is your struggle, as a gay male, no one knows it more than you.

But trying to 'one up' by comparing it to some else's , makes it look more of game than anything else, which only fuels misconceptions

 
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