What if Kobe continues losing THIS SEASON (and possibly the next)?

[saracenwire]

If duke cant win wit a 2x championship roster

That quote makes no fucking sense. Them being a two time championship team means he won with them.

 

[Tommy bilfiger]

They got swept goin for the 3peat.I said duke couldnt win wit the same roster that won 2 titles so now he needed more hall of fame all time great help wit nash and howard

 

[blu197]

They got swept goin for the 3peat.I said duke couldnt win wit the same roster that won 2 titles so now he needed more hall of fame all time great help wit nash and howard

You do realize lakers lost their hunger which happens when you were in 3 finals st8, and Kobe is in his 17th year, what star carried a team to a title in their 17th season??? And your saying he couldn't win with that roster but he did win with that roster (minus Blake and Barnes)

 

[NothingButTheTruth]

Lebron is currently 628 points away from 20 K which will make him the youngest Ever which will shatter another kobe milestone is 2 less years.He's a more efficient scorer,better rebounder,better passer,better facilitator,better defender and wasn't 30(goin on 31) when he won his 1st finals mvp like kobe was Lmao

You can have the footwork.Lebron does everything else better

Yep, let's ignore that Kobe came off the bench his first 2 years.

Let's also act like Kobe didn't have 3 rings already in comparison to Lebron's 1. I'd sacrifice all those empty stats for championship rings any day, as would all-time greats like Barkley, Malone, Allen Iverson, Stockton, and the list goes on.

Btw where's Jordan poster at 27? .... Exactly.

 

[Tommy bilfiger]

Lol @ losing hunger when you're the 2x defending champs shut da fucc up.No wonder they got swept and destroyed by 34 in an elimination game

Go head and Flag this wit feelings

 

[blu197]

Lol @ losing hunger when you're the 2x defending champs shut da fucc up.No wonder they got swept and destroyed by 34 in an elimination game

Go head and Flag this wit feelings

If lakers were to 3peat that means they would've went to the finals for 4 str8 years, I think that's only been done twice by Russell's Celtics and Magic and Kareem Lakers... Odds of them going back to the finals were slim.... And niggas get lazy when they get rings under their belt and stop putting a lot of work in the gym and play with way less urgency to repeat much less 3peat

 

[Tommy bilfiger]

^Just a bunch of excuses

Lebron is currently 628 points away from 20 K which will make him the youngest Ever which will shatter another kobe milestone is 2 less years.He's a more efficient scorer,better rebounder,better passer,better facilitator,better defender and wasn't 30(goin on 31) when he won his 1st finals mvp like kobe was Lmao

You can have the footwork.Lebron does everything else better

Yep, let's ignore that Kobe came off the bench his first 2 years.

Let's also act like Kobe didn't have 3 rings already in comparison to Lebron's 1. I'd sacrifice all those empty stats for championship rings any day, as would all-time greats like Barkley, Malone, Allen Iverson, Stockton, and the list goes on.

Btw where's Jordan poster at 27? .... Exactly.

It's common knowledge Kobe wasn't good enough to start in the nba at age 18-19 like lebron and it's also common knowledge kobe wasn't the best player on any of those lakers title teams that's why the lakers had a winning record when he missed games and a losing record when shaq missed games it's also why kobe was pushin 31 when he finally got his 1st finals mvp.Lebrons title resume is yet to be determined he'll be competing for years I'm sure he'll add more titles and finals mvp's

Jordan has nothing to do with this comparison dunny focus on the comparison at hand instead of gettin emotional.I'm comparing 2 players straight outta high school but jordan is more accomplished than BOTH of em combined so what he accomplished at age 27 is irrelevant

 

[almighty breeze]

Lebron is currently 628 points away from 20 K which will make him the youngest Ever which will shatter another kobe milestone is 2 less years.He's a more efficient scorer,better rebounder,better passer,better facilitator,better defender and wasn't 30(goin on 31) when he won his 1st finals mvp like kobe was Lmao

You can have the footwork.Lebron does everything else better

Yep, let's ignore that Kobe came off the bench his first 2 years.

Let's also act like Kobe didn't have 3 rings already in comparison to Lebron's 1. I'd sacrifice all those empty stats for championship rings any day, as would all-time greats like Barkley, Malone, Allen Iverson, Stockton, and the list goes on.

Btw where's Jordan poster at 27? .... Exactly.

.......Kobe coming off the bench helps LeBrons case for this argument. You're not hurting LeBron sayin "but he never came off the bench tho"..what kinda logic is that. As does the lack of Finals MVP which Iverson or Barkley woulda had not running into 2 of the greatest teams of all time when they did. But even still it doesnt change that Kobe had none. Cant change the details when they dont benefit ur case

 

[NothingButTheTruth]

^Just a bunch of excuses

Lebron is currently 628 points away from 20 K which will make him the youngest Ever which will shatter another kobe milestone is 2 less years.He's a more efficient scorer,better rebounder,better passer,better facilitator,better defender and wasn't 30(goin on 31) when he won his 1st finals mvp like kobe was Lmao

You can have the footwork.Lebron does everything else better

Yep, let's ignore that Kobe came off the bench his first 2 years.

Let's also act like Kobe didn't have 3 rings already in comparison to Lebron's 1. I'd sacrifice all those empty stats for championship rings any day, as would all-time greats like Barkley, Malone, Allen Iverson, Stockton, and the list goes on.

Btw where's Jordan poster at 27? .... Exactly.

It's common knowledge Kobe wasn't good enough to start in the nba at age 18-19 like lebron and it's also common knowledge kobe wasn't the best player on any of those lakers title teams that's why the lakers had a winning record when he missed games and a losing record when shaq missed games it's also why kobe was pushin 31 when he finally got his 1st finals mvp.Lebrons title resume is yet to be determined he'll be competing for years I'm sure he'll add more titles and finals mvp's

Jordan has nothing to do with this comparison dunny focus on the comparison at hand instead of gettin emotional.I'm comparing 2 players straight outta high school but jordan is more accomplished than BOTH of em combined so what he accomplished at age 27 is irrelevant

Lol @ Kobe not being good enough to start in the NBA when he was on the bench for an all-star guard in Eddie Jones. Also, we all know Lakers never truly rebuild, so they weren't going to bullshit and give Kobe the reigns like the Cavs did Lebron. Not to mention Kobe made the all-star game his 2nd year when he was 19, and he got busy.... so miss me with that not good enough to start bullshit. Kobe has ALWAYS been nice.

Also, Kobe held his own on the first ring, was Shaq's equal on the 2nd, and better than Shaq on the 3rd ring. It's just Kobe had WAY more competition at his position, so he didn't stand out as much as Shaq did. Btw rings Shaq won without Kobe = 1, rings Kobe won without Shaq = 2, and soon to be 3.

Lebron probably won't win 3, and I guarantee he won't come close to Kobe's ring count. Multiple rings > petty stat differences.

 

[blu197]

Comparing them @ 27 is useless, as of today kobe has the better resume as far as accomplishments are concerned, only thing bron has on him is mvp's and that's cus he didn't have to compete with a prime Duncan,Dirk,Nash,KG,Shaq to get it, niggas are jumping the gun to say he WILL accomplish more than kobe even jordan..... anything can happen for that not to be, just wait until he does it and then talk

 

[Tommy bilfiger]

^Just a bunch of excuses

Lebron is currently 628 points away from 20 K which will make him the youngest Ever which will shatter another kobe milestone is 2 less years.He's a more efficient scorer,better rebounder,better passer,better facilitator,better defender and wasn't 30(goin on 31) when he won his 1st finals mvp like kobe was Lmao

You can have the footwork.Lebron does everything else better

Yep, let's ignore that Kobe came off the bench his first 2 years.

Let's also act like Kobe didn't have 3 rings already in comparison to Lebron's 1. I'd sacrifice all those empty stats for championship rings any day, as would all-time greats like Barkley, Malone, Allen Iverson, Stockton, and the list goes on.

Btw where's Jordan poster at 27? .... Exactly.

It's common knowledge Kobe wasn't good enough to start in the nba at age 18-19 like lebron and it's also common knowledge kobe wasn't the best player on any of those lakers title teams that's why the lakers had a winning record when he missed games and a losing record when shaq missed games it's also why kobe was pushin 31 when he finally got his 1st finals mvp.Lebrons title resume is yet to be determined he'll be competing for years I'm sure he'll add more titles and finals mvp's

Jordan has nothing to do with this comparison dunny focus on the comparison at hand instead of gettin emotional.I'm comparing 2 players straight outta high school but jordan is more accomplished than BOTH of em combined so what he accomplished at age 27 is irrelevant

Lol @ Kobe not being good enough to start in the NBA when he was on the bench for an all-star guard in Eddie Jones. Also, we all know Lakers never truly rebuild, so they weren't going to bullshit and give Kobe the reigns like the Cavs did Lebron. Not to mention Kobe made the all-star game his 2nd year when he was 19, and he got busy.... so miss me with that not good enough to start bullshit. Kobe has ALWAYS been nice.

Also, Kobe held his own on the first ring, was Shaq's equal on the 2nd, and better than Shaq on the 3rd ring. It's just Kobe had WAY more competition at his position, so he didn't stand out as much as Shaq did. Btw rings Shaq won without Kobe = 1, rings Kobe won without Shaq = 2, and soon to be 3.

Lebron probably won't win 3, and I guarantee he won't come close to Kobe's ring count. Multiple rings > petty stat differences.

On the lakers 1st ring kobe put up 15.6 ppg 4 rpg and 3apg and shot 36% from the field he didn't hold his own

^It's lines like this is why lebron doesn't have to win 5 rings he will never have richard hamilton type numbers like this while winning a title.Lebron cant afford not to be the best player on his team like kobe could from 00-02 or his team will lose

Lebron had a bigger impact in the '12 finals than kobe had on all 3 of his coattail titles.The "way more competition" kobe faced was 35 year old reggie miller,mark jackson,lucious harris,aaron mckie,george lynch and kerry kittles this is who he guarded/guarded him Lmao,you need more people

 

[Tommy bilfiger]

I'm BODYING em for DOLO

Lebron dominated Kevin durant(top 2 player in the nba) while carrying hobbled wade and bosh to a title which is more of an impact than anything kobe did in his 1st 3 rings

Kobe wasn't good enough to start as a teen when they put him in a late playoff game he shot 3-4 airballs to certify the lakers decison to keep that lil boy on the bench while lebron was 19 beasting and setting unprecedented feats.Thats why lebron is chasing Jordan for all time #1 Goatness cuz his resume is on some Jordan shit just add more titles and finals mvp's like Mike did in is early to mid 30's and it's a wrap

Comparing them @ 27 is useless, as of today kobe has the better resume as far as accomplishments are concerned, only thing bron has on him is mvp's and that's cus he didn't have to compete with a prime Duncan,Dirk,Nash,KG,Shaq to get it, niggas are jumping the gun to say he WILL accomplish more than kobe even jordan..... anything can happen for that not to be, just wait until he does it and then talk

So comparing them at 27 is useless but comparing a soon to be 28 year old to a 34 year isn't? If kobe can add more titles and finals mvp's from 27-34 why cant lebron?

Lebron has several years of basketball left,Duke is a machine in his prime

 

[NothingButTheTruth]

^Just a bunch of excuses

Lebron is currently 628 points away from 20 K which will make him the youngest Ever which will shatter another kobe milestone is 2 less years.He's a more efficient scorer,better rebounder,better passer,better facilitator,better defender and wasn't 30(goin on 31) when he won his 1st finals mvp like kobe was Lmao

You can have the footwork.Lebron does everything else better

Yep, let's ignore that Kobe came off the bench his first 2 years.

Let's also act like Kobe didn't have 3 rings already in comparison to Lebron's 1. I'd sacrifice all those empty stats for championship rings any day, as would all-time greats like Barkley, Malone, Allen Iverson, Stockton, and the list goes on.

Btw where's Jordan poster at 27? .... Exactly.

It's common knowledge Kobe wasn't good enough to start in the nba at age 18-19 like lebron and it's also common knowledge kobe wasn't the best player on any of those lakers title teams that's why the lakers had a winning record when he missed games and a losing record when shaq missed games it's also why kobe was pushin 31 when he finally got his 1st finals mvp.Lebrons title resume is yet to be determined he'll be competing for years I'm sure he'll add more titles and finals mvp's

Jordan has nothing to do with this comparison dunny focus on the comparison at hand instead of gettin emotional.I'm comparing 2 players straight outta high school but jordan is more accomplished than BOTH of em combined so what he accomplished at age 27 is irrelevant

Lol @ Kobe not being good enough to start in the NBA when he was on the bench for an all-star guard in Eddie Jones. Also, we all know Lakers never truly rebuild, so they weren't going to bullshit and give Kobe the reigns like the Cavs did Lebron. Not to mention Kobe made the all-star game his 2nd year when he was 19, and he got busy.... so miss me with that not good enough to start bullshit. Kobe has ALWAYS been nice.

Also, Kobe held his own on the first ring, was Shaq's equal on the 2nd, and better than Shaq on the 3rd ring. It's just Kobe had WAY more competition at his position, so he didn't stand out as much as Shaq did. Btw rings Shaq won without Kobe = 1, rings Kobe won without Shaq = 2, and soon to be 3.

Lebron probably won't win 3, and I guarantee he won't come close to Kobe's ring count. Multiple rings > petty stat differences.

On the lakers 1st ring kobe put up 15.6 ppg 4 rpg and 3apg and shot 36% from the field he didn't hold his own

^It's lines like this is why lebron doesn't have to win 5 rings he will never have richard hamilton type numbers like this while winning a title.Lebron cant afford not to be the best player on his team like kobe could from 00-02 or his team will lose

Lebron had a bigger impact in the '12 finals than kobe had on all 3 of his coattail titles.The "way more competition" kobe faced was 35 year old reggie miller,mark jackson,lucious harris,aaron mckie,george lynch and kerry kittles this is who he guarded/guarded him Lmao,you need more people

First off, post the entire playoffs, not just the final series. You stay using misleading stats.

Kobe in the regular season of his 1st ring: 22.5ppg 6.3rpg 4.9apg 1.6spg .9bpg on 47% shooting.

In the playoffs of his 1st ring: 21.1ppg 4.5rpg 4.4apg 1.5spg 1.5bpg on 44% shooting.

Lebron's record in Finals: 1 for 3.

Kobe's record in Finals (at 27): 3 for 4.

As far as Kobe's competition, you and I both know Kobe ALWAYS guarded the best wing player/guard (PGs, SGs, SFs) on the opposing team in crunch time. Replace Aaron Mckie with Iverson etc. Also, I meant in general via the regular season. Kobe had to go up against people like Iverson, T-mac, Kidd, Pierce, Vince, Ray Allen etc. Shaq didn't have anywhere near that much competition.

In conclusion, Kobe had 3 rings at 27, while Lebron has 1.

 

[Tommy bilfiger]

I was talkin about the finals that's the championship round that's the round you get the mvp award for.Now you're moving the goal post

And Kobe did guard Iverson in game one of the 01 finals that's the game iverson dropped 48 points before they switched tyron lue on him cuz kobe wasn't fast enough to guard Bubba,kobe got into foul trouble and the lakers lost

After that Iverson dropped 35,35 and 37 so you're saying kobe was responsible for guarding this guy? Lmao

I watched the 00 and 02 finals I have those series on tape kobe guarded kittles and lucious harris and jason kidd(hardly) in 02 and reggie miller,jalen rose and mark jackson in 00.Lol @ stickin old ass slow nonathletic mark jackson and a 35 year old being something to brag about

Lebron guarded KEVIN DURANT not old washed undersized players

 

[blu197]

I'm BODYING em for DOLO

Lebron dominated Kevin durant(top 2 player in the nba) while carrying hobbled wade and bosh to a title which is more of an impact than anything kobe did in his 1st 3 rings

Kobe wasn't good enough to start as a teen when they put him in a late playoff game he shot 3-4 airballs to certify the lakers decison to keep that lil boy on the bench while lebron was 19 beasting and setting unprecedented feats.Thats why lebron is chasing Jordan for all time #1 Goatness cuz his resume is on some Jordan shit just add more titles and finals mvp's like Mike did in is early to mid 30's and it's a wrap

Comparing them @ 27 is useless, as of today kobe has the better resume as far as accomplishments are concerned, only thing bron has on him is mvp's and that's cus he didn't have to compete with a prime Duncan,Dirk,Nash,KG,Shaq to get it, niggas are jumping the gun to say he WILL accomplish more than kobe even jordan..... anything can happen for that not to be, just wait until he does it and then talk

So comparing them at 27 is useless but comparing a soon to be 28 year old to a 34 year isn't? If kobe can add more titles and finals mvp's from 27-34 why cant lebron?

Lebron has several years of basketball left,Duke is a machine in his prime

Lebron may be 27 but this is his 10th season I'd say he has 4 more seasons of great-good years of ball left, because he WILL start to slow down by his 15th season, how big the drop off will be idk, it depends on if he adds good footwork and floor game like pierce,dirk,Kobe ect... Cus by then will NOT be the best athlete in the game anymore......... Back to the question, Kobe has been fortunate to not suffer a serious injury throughout his 17+ season career, not saying lbj will but you'll never know, like I said wait till he accomplishes all the great things you guys say he will, until then you niggas might aswell be jynxing this man

 

[buttuh_b]

It's funny people act like Kobe wasn't injured all the way the fuck up and Pau Gasol didn't play TERRIBLE in the 2011 playoffs but Wade gets excuses.

 

[buttuh_b]

^Just a bunch of excuses

Lebron is currently 628 points away from 20 K which will make him the youngest Ever which will shatter another kobe milestone is 2 less years.He's a more efficient scorer,better rebounder,better passer,better facilitator,better defender and wasn't 30(goin on 31) when he won his 1st finals mvp like kobe was Lmao

You can have the footwork.Lebron does everything else better

Yep, let's ignore that Kobe came off the bench his first 2 years.

Let's also act like Kobe didn't have 3 rings already in comparison to Lebron's 1. I'd sacrifice all those empty stats for championship rings any day, as would all-time greats like Barkley, Malone, Allen Iverson, Stockton, and the list goes on.

Btw where's Jordan poster at 27? .... Exactly.

It's common knowledge Kobe wasn't good enough to start in the nba at age 18-19 like lebron and it's also common knowledge kobe wasn't the best player on any of those lakers title teams that's why the lakers had a winning record when he missed games and a losing record when shaq missed games it's also why kobe was pushin 31 when he finally got his 1st finals mvp.Lebrons title resume is yet to be determined he'll be competing for years I'm sure he'll add more titles and finals mvp's

Jordan has nothing to do with this comparison dunny focus on the comparison at hand instead of gettin emotional.I'm comparing 2 players straight outta high school but jordan is more accomplished than BOTH of em combined so what he accomplished at age 27 is irrelevant

Lol @ Kobe not being good enough to start in the NBA when he was on the bench for an all-star guard in Eddie Jones. Also, we all know Lakers never truly rebuild, so they weren't going to bullshit and give Kobe the reigns like the Cavs did Lebron. Not to mention Kobe made the all-star game his 2nd year when he was 19, and he got busy.... so miss me with that not good enough to start bullshit. Kobe has ALWAYS been nice.

Also, Kobe held his own on the first ring, was Shaq's equal on the 2nd, and better than Shaq on the 3rd ring. It's just Kobe had WAY more competition at his position, so he didn't stand out as much as Shaq did. Btw rings Shaq won without Kobe = 1, rings Kobe won without Shaq = 2, and soon to be 3.

Lebron probably won't win 3, and I guarantee he won't come close to Kobe's ring count. Multiple rings > petty stat differences.

On the lakers 1st ring kobe put up 15.6 ppg 4 rpg and 3apg and shot 36% from the field he didn't hold his own

^It's lines like this is why lebron doesn't have to win 5 rings he will never have richard hamilton type numbers like this while winning a title.Lebron cant afford not to be the best player on his team like kobe could from 00-02 or his team will lose

Lebron had a bigger impact in the '12 finals than kobe had on all 3 of his coattail titles.The "way more competition" kobe faced was 35 year old reggie miller,mark jackson,lucious harris,aaron mckie,george lynch and kerry kittles this is who he guarded/guarded him Lmao,you need more people

Stats are skewed. Kobe was injured for the majority of game 2 (only scored 2 points because of it) and missed game 3, was still hurt when he came back. Before the finals he was averaging 23 PPG on 47% shooting at age 21. If it wasn't for Kobe averaging 28 PPG on 50% shooting against the Kings in the first round we wouldn't have even made it out.

Quit spewing propaganda. This ain't a Kobe vs. Lebron thread so go head and post Jordan's accomplishments at 27.

 

[bless the child]

Tommy in here sonning niggaz. Dudes dont even know what to say. Lebron is a better player than Kobe. When its all said and done it'll LBJ and MJ. Kobe will get an honorable mention.

 

[blu197]

Tommy in here sonning niggaz. Dudes dont even know what to say. Lebron is a better player than Kobe. When its all said and done it'll LBJ and MJ. Kobe will get an honorable mention.

Kevin durant will be better than lebron, he will bless okc with their 1st chip someday and carry the franchise that drafted him to a title something that bron couldn't do...

 

[buttuh_b]

The funny thing is I remember Lebron wasn't guarding Durant at all in the first 2 games of the Finals and I was like "what the fuck is he doing"? He did guard him for parts of the other 3 games but far from the whole time.

Kobe had to guard Paul Pierce, Ray Allen, Rajon Rondo all in one series.