What does the hip-hop Generation stand for?

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moedays;4855902 said:
A question like this deserves a well thought out answer.

The problem is the we are the creators of the culture, but we are not in charge of bringing it to the masses. The power of people who are aware of their self worth and who are progressive is something the govt. can't have. Think about it. If the Public Enemies and the Dead Prez's, Mos Def's and Kweli's were the top selling rappers talking about bettering yourself an your community and the people were also down with it I know the black community would be different. Nobody brainwashed on bullshit. Imagine songs like that dominating the airwaves. Since music is so influential a change would eventually come. But we don't own any of the major outlets to push it out there. We who want better are out there and there are a lot of us, but we would need about a billion dollars to get controlling interest in a major media corporation, at least.

To answer the question, I think it's a mixed bag. I think was really the voice of the voiceless for the 1st 20-25 years of existence, bring together peoples of all colors and creeds, male and female, before it was hijacked by corporate interests and became grossly misogynistic, materialistic and just plain wack. Now I do think an appreciation for the art of lyricism has been creeping back into the fold and that's good, but negative messages are all that is put out there for the masses. They can't have people aware and coming together and doing for self, especially poor people. I don't know I'm kinda all over the place here. That's what happens when you smoke a blunt during.

tru@ da bold.....like i said we got blk rapperz scared 2 diss cracka rapperz cuz they dont wanna lose they white fanbase thatz y rapperz like P.E., Dead prez & etc aint top sellin rapperz cuz 2 sell recordz n hiphop 2 day u gotta b willin 2 kiss da white manz azz & let crackaz make racist tapez dissin blkz..,
 
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Before the realization that big money could be made off hip hop. Rappers with a message actually got pushed and it even created a movement. Now the record labels don't want to push that type of music because they think it wouldn't sell. Kanye proved that if the music is good people will buy it regardless.
 
of course blk rapperz wit a real message speakin da truth about white people is not gonna sell them feminemz dont wanna hear that shit....if u r a blk rapper & u aint kissin da white manz azz u r not gonna sell shit thatz y hiphop is so wack now we shouldnt have 2 kiss white azz 2 sell recordz smh.,.
 
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This generation has fumbled the ball & lost it.....Nas gave my generation life with Life is Good....Basically this generation needs a Nas, Cube, Kane, Rakim type MC to save the culture & breathe life into its skinny jean, swag, swerve body...
 
This generation does have Nas, Cube, Rakims,etc type mcs, they just don't make the music that cross over worthy.

Artist like Blu, Joey Badass, Joel Ortiz,etc can rhyme their asses off but the question is can they make commercial music that can cross over to the mainstream.

The easiest thing to do in rap is spit lyrics, the hardest thing to do is spit lyrics and cross over. Only a few niggas have been able to do that (Nas, Jay, Cube,etc).
 
Yall sure makin something simple complicated. Music is meant to be enjoyed. Once you get all negative about it you hurt yourself. This site has a lotta negativity and frustration. The world out there are livin their life. Listen to what you want. Its just that simple. Check other genres if you dont like rap. All this complainin never had an effect, people been on these sites complainin for years and the music they whine about is the most popular like always. This talk is gettin more played out every day.
 
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usmarin3;4858474 said:
This generation does have Nas, Cube, Rakims,etc type mcs, they just don't make the music that cross over worthy.

Artist like Blu, Joey Badass, Joel Ortiz,etc can rhyme their asses off but the question is can they make commercial music that can cross over to the mainstream.

The easiest thing to do in rap is spit lyrics, the hardest thing to do is spit lyrics and cross over. Only a few niggas have been able to do that (Nas, Jay, Cube,etc).

It's not like the music "isn't enjoyable" it's just that the labels assume it wont sell. Keep in mind music is subjective, why not allow the fans to decide if they enjoy it or not.

You gotta rap about frivolous bullshit over 808 beats to get airplay?

What was the last real conscious song to get consistent radio play?
 
Jamaica;4858684 said:
usmarin3;4858474 said:
This generation does have Nas, Cube, Rakims,etc type mcs, they just don't make the music that cross over worthy.

Artist like Blu, Joey Badass, Joel Ortiz,etc can rhyme their asses off but the question is can they make commercial music that can cross over to the mainstream.

The easiest thing to do in rap is spit lyrics, the hardest thing to do is spit lyrics and cross over. Only a few niggas have been able to do that (Nas, Jay, Cube,etc).

It's not like the music "isn't enjoyable" it's just that the labels assume it wont sell. Keep in mind music is subjective, why not allow the fans to decide if they enjoy it or not.

You gotta rap about frivolous bullshit over 808 beats to get airplay?

What was the last real conscious song to get consistent radio play?

Nas Daughters

That's why he is the GOAT

 
Gen. Stasia;4858728 said:
Jamaica;4858684 said:
usmarin3;4858474 said:
This generation does have Nas, Cube, Rakims,etc type mcs, they just don't make the music that cross over worthy.

Artist like Blu, Joey Badass, Joel Ortiz,etc can rhyme their asses off but the question is can they make commercial music that can cross over to the mainstream.

The easiest thing to do in rap is spit lyrics, the hardest thing to do is spit lyrics and cross over. Only a few niggas have been able to do that (Nas, Jay, Cube,etc).

It's not like the music "isn't enjoyable" it's just that the labels assume it wont sell. Keep in mind music is subjective, why not allow the fans to decide if they enjoy it or not.

You gotta rap about frivolous bullshit over 808 beats to get airplay?

What was the last real conscious song to get consistent radio play?

Nas Daughters

That's why he is the GOAT

only in NY tho
 
Gen. Stasia;4858728 said:
Jamaica;4858684 said:
usmarin3;4858474 said:
This generation does have Nas, Cube, Rakims,etc type mcs, they just don't make the music that cross over worthy.

Artist like Blu, Joey Badass, Joel Ortiz,etc can rhyme their asses off but the question is can they make commercial music that can cross over to the mainstream.

The easiest thing to do in rap is spit lyrics, the hardest thing to do is spit lyrics and cross over. Only a few niggas have been able to do that (Nas, Jay, Cube,etc).

It's not like the music "isn't enjoyable" it's just that the labels assume it wont sell. Keep in mind music is subjective, why not allow the fans to decide if they enjoy it or not.

You gotta rap about frivolous bullshit over 808 beats to get airplay?

What was the last real conscious song to get consistent radio play?

Nas Daughters

That's why he is the GOAT

Dope record but outside of NY it wasn't getting any play.
 
Jamaica;4858684 said:
usmarin3;4858474 said:
This generation does have Nas, Cube, Rakims,etc type mcs, they just don't make the music that cross over worthy.

Artist like Blu, Joey Badass, Joel Ortiz,etc can rhyme their asses off but the question is can they make commercial music that can cross over to the mainstream.

The easiest thing to do in rap is spit lyrics, the hardest thing to do is spit lyrics and cross over. Only a few niggas have been able to do that (Nas, Jay, Cube,etc).

It's not like the music "isn't enjoyable" it's just that the labels assume it wont sell. Keep in mind music is subjective, why not allow the fans to decide if they enjoy it or not.

You gotta rap about frivolous bullshit over 808 beats to get airplay?

What was the last real conscious song to get consistent radio play?

Their music isn't enjoyable dude, they are just some rapping ass niggas for the most part. You keep fucking acting like anyone is holding back these artist from being heard, NIGGA THIS IS THE INTERNET ERA. Artist are more heard than ever.

Call like it is, these dudes lack something. If your music is compelling enough you will attract a fanbase without the system pushing you, that's what Wiz Khalifa did, that's what Mac Miller did,etc.

No one said anything about 808 beats, you're making that assumption. Kanye ain't rapping on 808 beats, Nas ain't rapping on 808 beats, Lupe aint rapping on 808 beats.

Daughters got consistent play, Luda Runaway Love, Wayne how to love (even though he wack to me), Lupe Words i never said,etc.
 
FYI i heard Daughters plenty of times on radio down here in Florida, so don't say no nonsense about outside of NY. You don't live in every state
 
usmarin3;4858930 said:
Jamaica;4858684 said:
usmarin3;4858474 said:
This generation does have Nas, Cube, Rakims,etc type mcs, they just don't make the music that cross over worthy.

Artist like Blu, Joey Badass, Joel Ortiz,etc can rhyme their asses off but the question is can they make commercial music that can cross over to the mainstream.

The easiest thing to do in rap is spit lyrics, the hardest thing to do is spit lyrics and cross over. Only a few niggas have been able to do that (Nas, Jay, Cube,etc).

It's not like the music "isn't enjoyable" it's just that the labels assume it wont sell. Keep in mind music is subjective, why not allow the fans to decide if they enjoy it or not.

You gotta rap about frivolous bullshit over 808 beats to get airplay?

What was the last real conscious song to get consistent radio play?

Their music isn't enjoyable dude, they are just some rapping ass niggas for the most part. You keep fucking acting like anyone is holding back these artist from being heard, NIGGA THIS IS THE INTERNET ERA. Artist are more heard than ever.

Call like it is, these dudes lack something. If your music is compelling enough you will attract a fanbase without the system pushing you, that's what Wiz Khalifa did, that's what Mac Miller did,etc.

No one said anything about 808 beats, you're making that assumption. Kanye ain't rapping on 808 beats, Nas ain't rapping on 808 beats, Lupe aint rapping on 808 beats.

Daughters got consistent play, Luda Runaway Love, Wayne how to love (even though he wack to me), Lupe Words i never said,etc.

Once again music is subjective. A lot of these rappers that are dope aren't getting consistent play, Curren$y, Mac Miller, etc your music have to have a certain sound (and right connections word to French Montana) for you to even get any play. They aren't trying to push conscious records anymore and only established artists like Nas, Kanye etc can get away with it. Good luck being a new artist trying to be conscious.

Unless you're either making simp records, like Drake or Wale' or you're borderline retarded like Waka Flocka, Gucci, and 2Chainz, or you're talking about the same cliche' things like Ross, Jeezy etc you're not getting any radio play.

I remember when records got played because it was good, now you need the right connections smh.
 
SawedOff-N-SkiMask;4858999 said:
Where do u listen to music at Jamaica?

Like what do u watch and what stations do u listen to

I listen to my local stations Hot97 and Power 105.1

I also listen to my ipod

 
Hip Hop will be known for being polarizing and having negatives and positives .

It is cultural music that speaks directly from the young black male's view point as well as other races.
 
I truly believe and blame media outlet(TV Radio) & some labels for the disconnect of Hip Hop Generation....Any time U2, Bruce, Rolling Stones can go out on sell out tours and still sell music easy with a support of ALL generations....As a culture we dont show our legend's that same love and it's f#cking sad because you go over seas HIP HOP is treated like GOD and the Asian & Euro fans can rap every lyric to a Tribe, Kane PE song..I remember Lupe didnt even know a TRIBE song on Hip Hop Honors....
 
SawedOff-N-SkiMask;4859293 said:
jpcrack;4859239 said:
I truly believe and blame media outlet(TV Radio) & some labels for the disconnect of Hip Hop Generation....Any time U2, Bruce, Rolling Stones can go out on sell out tours and still sell music easy with a support of ALL generations....As a culture we dont show our legend's that same love and it's f#cking sad because you go over seas HIP HOP is treated like GOD and the Asian & Euro fans can rap every lyric to a Tribe, Kane PE song..I remember Lupe didnt even know a TRIBE song on Hip Hop Honors....

Another uneducated post

Prove me wrong then Homeboy...

 
jpcrack;4859239 said:
jpcrack;4859239 said:
I truly believe and blame media outlet(TV Radio) & some labels for the disconnect of Hip Hop Generation....Any time U2, Bruce, Rolling Stones can go out on sell out tours and still sell music easy with a support of ALL generations....As a culture we dont show our legend's that same love and it's f#cking sad because you go over seas HIP HOP is treated like GOD and the Asian & Euro fans can rap every lyric to a Tribe, Kane PE song..I remember Lupe didnt even know a TRIBE song on Hip Hop Honors....

Yo It seems as if those of us that came up in the 90's were spoiled to a certain extent....I think thats why we always reflect.....Hip Hop then wasnt taken over by corporations so we got a lot of quality hip hop from different types of rappers.....These corporations have basically shunned any thing other than the typical but there are a lot more ways to be heard tho...What seperates rap from rock though is rock doesnt seem to have regional and age biases thats why u2 and rolling stones can release successful projects and tour like crazy....
 

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