What does the hip-hop Generation stand for?

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SawedOff-N-SkiMask;4859287 said:
Jamaica;4859179 said:
SawedOff-N-SkiMask;4858999 said:
Where do u listen to music at Jamaica?

Like what do u watch and what stations do u listen to

I listen to my local stations Hot97 and Power 105.1

I also listen to my ipod

And u still think there's no balance in Hip Hop....wow

Not only do those stations play everything, u also get to hear whatever u want on your own time thru ur iPod. You're no different from anybody else.

And those stations actually play a little bit of everything everyday. I take it you're not very familiar with The Breakfast Club and how they get down? I also take it that u still watch 106 & Park, a show that's sometimes actually not that bad even tho it's the "Urban" TRL (literally)?

Yeah man, u definitely don't know what tha fuck you're talking about. At best you're just bitching

The rappers that are getting played are better now than they were 6 or 7 years ago. But there is still no balance on mainstream radio.
 
SawedOff-N-SkiMask;4859354 said:
I don't have to. Hip Hop is growing bigger and bigger everyday, jus like u said with people overseas reciting lyrics from Old songs all of the time.

I see no difference from a nigga 23 years old in 1992 reciting lyrics from an Earth, Wind, & Fire song than I do seeing a young nigga 15 years old today reciting the lyrics to "Gin & Juice" or an Isley Brothers record.

It's definitely just u. And maybe, just maybe, did u ever think for a second that we feel our music is equally just as good if not better? I mean, is Mac Miller not the new Vanilla Ice except more acceptable in the mainstream due to the ever growing popularization of Hip Hop culture?

These arguments that y'all make up sound like broken records and complete disconnects to real life everyday society

I got ya point but truth is...I just would like if the MC's that dont follow trends and that have talent get media love...Everyone follows 1 lane now and TV & Media only support that lane....One time you could see a Tribe, Ghetto Boys,Rakim video on TV instead of the same ol thing..Hip Hop is suppose to grow but creativly its being shown & supported only in money...DJ's dont even get no love....But again I feel what you saying
 
Alright some of yall just wanna be negative. Whatever, Im goin into the real world when my clothes finish dryin and I might play the radio. But if something comes on I dont like, Ill play something from my catalog I do like. Nobody had to tell me how to do this but it works. I know This seems to hard for some of yall to figure out but try it unless you just wanna complain like a female. Its a free country. Dont play yourself. But whatever, do whatever yall do on this site. Doesnt matter.
 
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There's alot of great points in here. But lets also not overlook the fact that the artists of the past generations looked at themselves as one of the people and someone you can relate to. They spoke on personal issues that many could identify with. Today its all about "were not cut from the same cloth" and "Im a martian" etc. causing a separation. Its all about "you need to be like me" in todays era.

People used to be fans of an artist because they related to that artist. Now people seem to be fans because they want to be like the artist.
 
It's funny how niggas cry about the radio, MTV and BET all day, screaming fuck them. Yet the same niggas be crying that their favorite underground no name rappers don't get the attention from these network, which is it, is it fuck MTV/Radio or not. lol Like what you fucking like and financially support it and stop looking to radio and tv to justify it.
 
I'll be honest and say that i am not apart of what hip hop represents today. I have no common interest with anybody who is currently rapping and it saddens me.

I grew up with it, and it use to give me a voice, make me proud that I wasnt like the white kids. Nowadays it makes me feel like im not even worthy of living if im not a complete delinquent who only cares about making money and fucking bitches.

Fuck what hip hop has come to represent.

I want nothing to do with it.
 
SawedOff-N-SkiMask;4860088 said:
So I guess nobody is hyped for that new "Wu Block" album about to come out?

I wonder if it's becuz people know it'll be weak?

I do not understand your logic if people know it will be weak, why be hyped for it.
 
SawedOff-N-SkiMask;4860088 said:
So I guess nobody is hyped for that new "Wu Block" album about to come out?

I wonder if it's becuz people know it'll be weak?

Man these people dont really care about listening to that kinda stuff. Most of em like the same songs everybody else like but they come on the internet and act bitter like they against havin fun Like some grumpy old man. Why are certain songs on the radio and hits? Because people wanna hear them and support them. Music nobody supports aint gon be bigger than music a large audience supports. Not rocket science.
 
Flash, style, swag, and fashion like individualism is what this Hip-Hop generation will be remembered for.

If you want to keep it real, the only people who will be remembered as the leaders and trendsetters of this Hip-Hop generation are Kanye, Wayne, maybe Lupe, and maybe Ludacris. Everyone else is clone like or fell off too quick.
 
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EPMD was right..check out 0.00 to 0.18..that's what this generation stands for.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OC1psGZXZlw

The irony...this song actually was considered mainstream back then and still was street..today it's more candy coated.
 
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jono;4850967 said:
Hip-hop did boom during a period of heavy fragmentation in Black communities but we still had plenty of songs about "stuff": unity, poverty, political rights etc. the voices of those people are drowned today.

Now its all about smoking weed, fuckin bitches and being a "baller". Anyone who tries to speak out gets shouted down by the ignorant and ignored by the system.

Even the ignorant shit of NWA is tempered with speaking on the frustrations of poor black youths in America. They weren't just an ignorant rap group.

Look at the posters in here. Telling another nigga to STFU about speaking out his own opinion, when it's unpopular. The Lu controversy is perfect example of that. A bunch of hypocrites that get mad when someone thinks for himself.
 
hiphop has evolved to the point where majority of the artists

are paying closer attention to the business side of he game..

because of hiphop there are more young black millionaires now then ever..
 
illedout;4862180 said:
hiphop has evolved to the point where majority of the artists

are paying closer attention to the business side of he game..

because of hiphop there are more young black millionaires now then ever..

Exactly. And some people have a problem with that. You cant see who these people are on here, but some of yall would be surprised their not who you think. Anyway, thats why i just enjoy the music i like. If you wanna focus on the negative of anything, you can. I outgrew that way of thinking.
 
Jamaica;4858684 said:
Jamaica;4858684 said:
usmarin3;4858474 said:
This generation does have Nas, Cube, Rakims,etc type mcs, they just don't make the music that cross over worthy.

Artist like Blu, Joey Badass, Joel Ortiz,etc can rhyme their asses off but the question is can they make commercial music that can cross over to the mainstream.

The easiest thing to do in rap is spit lyrics, the hardest thing to do is spit lyrics and cross over. Only a few niggas have been able to do that (Nas, Jay, Cube,etc).

It's not like the music "isn't enjoyable" it's just that the labels assume it wont sell. Keep in mind music is subjective, why not allow the fans to decide if they enjoy it or not.

You gotta rap about frivolous bullshit over 808 beats to get airplay?

What was the last real conscious song to get consistent radio play?

@Jamaica I agree with you for the most part, but i just wanted to correct one thing you said a couple times.

Its not that they dont think it will sale, as a matter of fact, they know whatever they push will sell.

They are more concerned about the lifestyles attached to the music.

When you sell good music with a message, sure they may do big numbers but the one who benefits the most is the artist.

When you sell a commercial puppet, not only will they sell well (atleast single wise) but then they will make all their money back off endorsements even if the album is complete ass (as it always is). They stand to make multi-millions off alcohol, clubs, condoms, clothing retailers, abortion clinics, and prisons...

The risk is reduced substantially when a record company doesnt even have to sell records to break even.

The record industry is more conservative than it has ever been.

Its ironic, because back in the day the old dudes would give everybody an opportunity to get their records spins, because they themselves had no idea what the young people wanted to hear.

The record industry started changing when the old dudes in the 60s started bringing the hippies in a consultants cause they had their ears to the street, or today's case they bring the fake thugs in.

Since the dudes in charge are apart of the culture, they think they know it best and are willing to take even less risk.

Everything else your saying is spot on though!
 
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SawedOff-N-SkiMask;4860084 said:
So I take it that u don't even listen to the artist u grew up listening too's music that they put out today huh?

And it's fuck Big Krit, J Cole, Joey BadA$$, Kendrick Lamar, Ab-Soul, Wale, and all them other niggaz too huh?

That's exactly what i'm saying. Even the most lyrical dudes these days still resort to lame ass commercial punchlines once or twice every song. The same shit you would expect them to say. This alone immediately makes me lose interest because it is so stereotypical.

I don't care how many different ways you say you fuck bitches, can get any chick or that you have money. It is still the same damn thing

Even the most lyrical dude these days is still on some mindless fly shit if he even has a morsel of media attention on him.

I'm not saying they aren't talented, but they really don't keep it real, and its quite apparent that the reason is because they dont stand for anything.

At best these days, you get a verse as random as Lil Wayne's with less cuss words. Stories are a rarity in these times, because these niggas dont have any that havent been told a million times before.

One thing ive never understood is how even though black people go through more shit than anyone else, in terms of genre of music they still have the least to talk about. Everything is so literal

IMO, alot of these rappers should start listening to more genres to expand their content or lack there of.
 


NeighborhoodNomad. ;4859693 said:
There's alot of great points in here. But lets also not overlook the fact that the artists of the past generations looked at themselves as one of the people and someone you can relate to. They spoke on personal issues that many could identify with. Today its all about "were not cut from the same cloth" and "Im a martian" etc. causing a separation. Its all about "you need to be like me" in todays era.

People used to be fans of an artist because they related to that artist. Now people seem to be fans because they want to be like the artist.

its all relative to youth and the youth is about the trends at the moment..people try to make this shit more complicated than what it is..a lot of niggas is gettin old and out of touch..that's real talk..shit happenin to me to..old heads back in the days wasn't bullshittin..real talk the generation before us wasnt saggin baggy jeans with their hat turned back and wearing pierced ears..lol..i know yall aint gonna act like cause an uproar...and even the hippies back in the 60's..they had a different culture than the people from the 50's and it was controversial

but hip hop is hip hop..whatever sound or style you like is alive and kickin just might not get the promotion you want..and come on man that's what fans do..you act like people never tried to imitate michael jackson, prince, 2pac, elvis, or whoever back in the day

 
illedout;4862180 said:
hiphop has evolved to the point where majority of the artists

are paying closer attention to the business side of he game..

because of hiphop there are more young black millionaires now then ever..

Yeah hip-hop and the NBA are great for black folks to make a quick buck but how does that turn into long term success? You should look at the statistics of how many NBA players file for bankruptcy after retirement...as a matter of fact...just look at Allen Iverson.

I really wish people looked deeper than finances. I hope these dudes do stay rich, but I get the feeling that before the sun sets on their careers they will see struggle again.
 

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