What Beef Had the Most Benefit for HipHop as a Culture???

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This nigga listed em vs pop acts, nicki vs kim and flip vs ti you might as well throw in ti vs shawty lo. But didnt have beanie vs jada.

 
S2J;7568140 said:
Man yall need to do yall history lol smh BDP crushed a whole style of rap. The origInal purpose of the rapper was basically to tell you how good his DJ/CREW was. Mc Shan was still rappin like that. Just look at the rhyme pattern

Mc Shan, The Bridge

Hip hop was set out in the dark

They used to do it out in the park

Every place they said his name it rang an alarm

Otherwise known as Mean Teen Tom

A brother who's known for his rap

Jabby Jack, Larry Lah, third least not last

A cool brother by the name of Gas

Face Brothers made you get loose
...

Dimples D, the girl, she was great

Her and Marley Marl went and cut a plate

They used to rock it out in the place

And the title of it was 'Sucker DJ's'

And then he strolled along one day

And then he walked into a girl named Shante


1, 2,3...1,2, 3. Repeat, etc. Not even dissin, but like a nursery rhyme. Literally.

Now BDP, Bridge is Over

They wish to battle BDP, but they cannot

They must be on the dick of who? DJ Scott La Rock

Cause we don't complain nor do we play the game of favors

Boogie Down Productions comes in three different flavors

Pick any dick for the flavor that you savor

Mr. Magic might wish to come and try to save ya

But instead of helping ya out he wants the same thing I gave ya

I finally figured it out, Magic mouth is used for sucking

Roxanne Shante is only good for steady fucking

MC Shan and Marley Marl is really only bluffing

Like Doug E. Fresh said "I tell you now, you ain't nothing"

What's the matter with your MC, Marley Marl?

Don't know you know that he's out of touch

What's the matter with your DJ, MC Shan?

On the wheels of steel Marlon sucks

You'd better change what comes out your speaker

You're better off talking bout your wack Puma sneaker

Cause Bronx created hip-hop, Queens will only get dropped

You're still telling lies to me

Everybody's talking bout the Juice Crew

Funny, but you're still telling lies to me


Just look at the difference in the length of a bar! Plus KRS was actually shyttin on nggas, PERSONALLY. Not to mention he was confident enough to actually... SWITCH his flow!?!?!? On some jamaican shyt. Nggas was still doin 1, 2, 1,2, 1, 2 and he came and spit some patois on nggas!!!?! Its a sad day in hip hop if yall dont realize this

I actually think Kool Moe D did more to change the way people rapped when he ethered Busy Bee, but that wasn't an option. It was also a short battle.
 
S2J;7567775 said:
Great thread. I was gonna say nas vs jay but that was on a small scale, we got 2 classic albums in Stillmatic and Blueprint, plus the resurgence of Nas...thats about it

But w/ BDP? Ngga...Mfers might still be rappin like Curtis Blow if not for that. That was the record that took the gloves off rap and made it ok to be personal, and not rap w/ the same 'hip hop, a hippity, ha ha!' style.

Bruh,

I agree with your post 98%..

The other 2% I have to give credit to Kool Moe Dee,

for destroying Busy Bee's bullshit party rhymes with actual battle rhymes..

But you're right Krs 1 took shit to another level with that "South Bronx" and "The Bridge is Over"..
 
I am a big KRS fan but you are giving him too much credit, if you are going to trace modern rap styles you have to start with Caz, Mel, and Kool Moe Dee.

Then T La Rock dropped It's Yours in 1984, and Rakim who came out in 1986 with Eric B. is president.

I also have to mention Kool G Rap who came with his own style that influenced rappers in later generations.
 
nas vs jay

having two of our biggest stars face off (and it got real personal) after the deaths of our two biggest stars had everyone on edge. the media was ready to go crazy on us and basically kill hip hop off. they proved we were not savages. it was much bigger than a couple of diss records. if it would have turned violent hip hop would truly be dead right now
 
5 Grand;7567868 said:
I voted for Nas/Jay but the Busy B vs Kool Moe Dee battle should be up there. That's how it all started.

I'm not voting because, no battle was more important to MCing than Busy and Mo Dee.

 
Kwan Dai;8059024 said:
5 Grand;7567868 said:
I voted for Nas/Jay but the Busy B vs Kool Moe Dee battle should be up there. That's how it all started.

I'm not voting because, no battle was more important to MCing than Busy and Mo Dee.

Shit was too lopsided Kool Moe Dee was more like an assassin. I do not even view that as a battle Busy B was verbally executed and did not continue from there in any real capacity that was a point of evolution in Hip Hop not a battle at least to me as battle at least requires the other side to swing back. All the battles I listed had both sides going at it even Eminem had pop stars going for his neck in retaliation...

 
Kwan Dai;8059024 said:
5 Grand;7567868 said:
I voted for Nas/Jay but the Busy B vs Kool Moe Dee battle should be up there. That's how it all started.

I'm not voting because, no battle was more important to MCing than Busy and Mo Dee.

Would have been more epic if Melle Mel would have stepped up when Moe Dee called him out
 
Soloman_The_Wise;8059523 said:
Kwan Dai;8059024 said:
5 Grand;7567868 said:
I voted for Nas/Jay but the Busy B vs Kool Moe Dee battle should be up there. That's how it all started.

I'm not voting because, no battle was more important to MCing than Busy and Mo Dee.

Shit was too lopsided Kool Moe Dee was more like an assassin. I do not even view that as a battle Busy B was verbally executed and did not continue from there in any real capacity that was a point of evolution in Hip Hop not a battle at least to me as battle at least requires the other side to swing back. All the battles I listed had both sides going at it even Eminem had pop stars going for his neck in retaliation...

I was reading an interview with KMD a while back and he said in retrospect he felt like a bully for what happened

He had the whole crowd laughin at Busy B and kinda felt bad for how it played out but Hip Hop still benifited from it in the long run..
 
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