Welfare, section 8, entitlements....let's talk about it...

[Ol Jay's]

smh @ caring about section 8 when At&t hasn't paid federal taxes and collected $34 billion in federal returns over the last 8 years

I don't give a shit about AT&T which is worth billions not paying taxes just like I didn't give a shit about Wesley Snipes not paying his taxes it's a none story in relation to where my interests lay.

I do however care about the plight of people who look like I do. The government will go throw these low income shindigs in our community and try to control us to a degree saying you can only make this much money to live here and such basically enticing us to stay here and in poverty.

Everybody here probably got their phone AT&T, Sprint, T-Mobile, or Verizon which are all basically the same company split up to make it more competitive. I bet ain't nobody here canceling their cell phone service because of these loopholes these companies take advantage of though. You should research the 7 Baby Bells if you haven't already.

section 8 isn't designed to keep folks in poverty, it's a tool used to allow low income folks an opportunity to live in middle class neighborhoods thus giving low income kids to attend better schools

We pay taxes, so We fund the government, and I'd rather complain about my tax dollars going to corporations than to those living in poverty

Low income people spend a lot of money so that means they're paying sales taxes, so in actuality they're paying just as much taxes as the next

Section 8 keeps people in poverty.

I've seen 2 generations of families get on it that lived right across the street from me in my own lifetime.

I don't know where you live but in Louisiana where I live they don't even put that low income housing in middle class neighborhoods. They are put in low income parts of town. I have also noticed they are going away from those high rise multiple unit apartments and putting up the ones that look just like small single family homes in the middle of these low income areas.

Where I live they are all concentrated on the Southside of town where you know who lives.

That program was set up for the disabled and people who fell on hard times, it was not set up for people to be living entire lifetimes on.

are you sure those people aren't choosing to get section 8 in low income neighborhoods because they don't want to "leave the hood" or you know for a fact that it's only offered in low income neighborhoods

Because I used to think like that too, that it was only offered in the "hood" , until my wife's cousin moved to a predominantly white County into a middle class neighborhood, and I asked what made her even think to apply for it in that area and she said "it's low income white people too, why wouldnt it be offered in this area"

Matter of fact her sister moved to a predominantly white middle class neighborhood in Mississippi last year via section 8

 

[semi-auto-mato]

smh @ caring about section 8 when At&t hasn't paid federal taxes and collected $34 billion in federal returns over the last 8 years

I don't give a shit about AT&T which is worth billions not paying taxes just like I didn't give a shit about Wesley Snipes not paying his taxes it's a none story in relation to where my interests lay.

I do however care about the plight of people who look like I do. The government will go throw these low income shindigs in our community and try to control us to a degree saying you can only make this much money to live here and such basically enticing us to stay here and in poverty.

Everybody here probably got their phone AT&T, Sprint, T-Mobile, or Verizon which are all basically the same company split up to make it more competitive. I bet ain't nobody here canceling their cell phone service because of these loopholes these companies take advantage of though. You should research the 7 Baby Bells if you haven't already.

section 8 isn't designed to keep folks in poverty, it's a tool used to allow low income folks an opportunity to live in middle class neighborhoods thus giving low income kids to attend better schools

We pay taxes, so We fund the government, and I'd rather complain about my tax dollars going to corporations than to those living in poverty

Low income people spend a lot of money so that means they're paying sales taxes, so in actuality they're paying just as much taxes as the next

i dont think this is true. section 8 doesn't have any type of requirement that says that it has to be a middle class neighborhood. if u are a private landlord in any neighborhood u can apply to the section 8 program. u just have to make sure the housing meets their guidelines and neighborhood status aint one of them.

they may spend a lot in tax dollars but that dont help me when i gotta repair damages that they have done to my house. abuse of the system and letting these folks run crazy is costly to private landlords like me. we apply for the program because at first glance it seems like guaranteed money but in the end it can cost us thousands. perhaps it works better in them big apartment complexes. the idea of section 8 is a good one but the execution of the program....not so good.

bro reread my post

Nowhere in it do I say "its a requirement that section 8 has to be in middle class neighborhoods"

I said "it's a tool used to allow low income folks an opportunity to live in middle class neighborhoods", meaning it's not just offered in low income neighborhoods as suggested by the poster I was responding to

I can only speak about my experience with the program. That is why I said I don't think it's true. U know folks who used it to their benefit. Like I said good program...Bad execution

 

[D. Morgan]

smh @ caring about section 8 when At&t hasn't paid federal taxes and collected $34 billion in federal returns over the last 8 years

I don't give a shit about AT&T which is worth billions not paying taxes just like I didn't give a shit about Wesley Snipes not paying his taxes it's a none story in relation to where my interests lay.

I do however care about the plight of people who look like I do. The government will go throw these low income shindigs in our community and try to control us to a degree saying you can only make this much money to live here and such basically enticing us to stay here and in poverty.

Everybody here probably got their phone AT&T, Sprint, T-Mobile, or Verizon which are all basically the same company split up to make it more competitive. I bet ain't nobody here canceling their cell phone service because of these loopholes these companies take advantage of though. You should research the 7 Baby Bells if you haven't already.

section 8 isn't designed to keep folks in poverty, it's a tool used to allow low income folks an opportunity to live in middle class neighborhoods thus giving low income kids to attend better schools

We pay taxes, so We fund the government, and I'd rather complain about my tax dollars going to corporations than to those living in poverty

Low income people spend a lot of money so that means they're paying sales taxes, so in actuality they're paying just as much taxes as the next

Where you get the italicized info from?

observation, I have seen people here and in Illinois utilize section 8 as such

I get what you saying and those people who looked for a rental house in a middle class neighborhood that accepted section 8 was a smart move but the way you worded that is bullshit.

 

[LPast]

This is America ain't shit for free. Trust me they will end up paying for that shit in the end, the government is pulling a long con on them niggas

How so......I know a chick w 5 kids...gets bout damn near a 1000 a month in link/food stamps, gets like 2000 a month for rent, also gets a stipend for spending cash.....as long as she keeps checking in or whatever it is they do to qualify for this, she's good....

All she does is party and gamble

The end game is to keep black people as a permanent underclass so if the economy ever gets to bad they can put black people back in slavery. What if the government told that chick you know that if she don't start doing this work I got for you (slavery) I'm going to cut your benefits? What will she do? She doesn't have a work history, work skills, or work ethic to get a job on her own she will have no choice but to become a slave. The government is her pimp and she is just a hoe

Some of them niggas must have Alzheimers because they already forgot that the government has never had black peoples best interest at heart

Ding, ding, ding. Don't y'all realize their lives are in the government's hands?

 

[Crude_]

smh @ caring about section 8 when At&t hasn't paid federal taxes and collected $34 billion in federal returns over the last 8 years

I don't give a shit about AT&T which is worth billions not paying taxes just like I didn't give a shit about Wesley Snipes not paying his taxes it's a none story in relation to where my interests lay.

I do however care about the plight of people who look like I do. The government will go throw these low income shindigs in our community and try to control us to a degree saying you can only make this much money to live here and such basically enticing us to stay here and in poverty.

Everybody here probably got their phone AT&T, Sprint, T-Mobile, or Verizon which are all basically the same company split up to make it more competitive. I bet ain't nobody here canceling their cell phone service because of these loopholes these companies take advantage of though. You should research the 7 Baby Bells if you haven't already.

section 8 isn't designed to keep folks in poverty, it's a tool used to allow low income folks an opportunity to live in middle class neighborhoods thus giving low income kids to attend better schools

We pay taxes, so We fund the government, and I'd rather complain about my tax dollars going to corporations than to those living in poverty

Low income people spend a lot of money so that means they're paying sales taxes, so in actuality they're paying just as much taxes as the next

Section 8 keeps people in poverty.

I've seen 2 generations of families get on it that lived right across the street from me in my own lifetime.

I don't know where you live but in Louisiana where I live they don't even put that low income housing in middle class neighborhoods. They are put in low income parts of town. I have also noticed they are going away from those high rise multiple unit apartments and putting up the ones that look just like small single family homes in the middle of these low income areas.

Where I live they are all concentrated on the Southside of town where you know who lives.

That program was set up for the disabled and people who fell on hard times, it was not set up for people to be living entire lifetimes on.

are you sure those people aren't choosing to get section 8 in low income neighborhoods because they don't want to "leave the hood" or you know for a fact that it's only offered in low income neighborhoods

Because I used to think like that too, that it was only offered in the "hood" , until my wife's cousin moved to a predominantly white County into a middle class neighborhood, and I asked what made her even think to apply for it in that area and she said "it's low income white people too, why wouldnt it be offered in this area"

Matter of fact her sister moved to a predominantly white middle class neighborhood in Mississippi last year via section 8

I know this for fact in my area because my wife and I search MLS to find real estate properties to possible rent to people ourselves.

I can't speak for parts outside of the little 50-60 square mile radius frequent.

 

[Elzo69Renaissance]

This is America ain't shit for free. Trust me they will end up paying for that shit in the end, the government is pulling a long con on them niggas

How so......I know a chick w 5 kids...gets bout damn near a 1000 a month in link/food stamps, gets like 2000 a month for rent, also gets a stipend for spending cash.....as long as she keeps checking in or whatever it is they do to qualify for this, she's good....

All she does is party and gamble

The end game is to keep black people as a permanent underclass so if the economy ever gets to bad they can put black people back in slavery. What if the government told that chick you know that if she don't start doing this work I got for you (slavery) I'm going to cut your benefits? What will she do? She doesn't have a work history, work skills, or work ethic to get a job on her own she will have no choice but to become a slave. The government is her pimp and she is just a hoe

Some of them niggas must have Alzheimers because they already forgot that the government has never had black peoples best interest at heart

Ding, ding, ding. Don't y'all realize their lives are in the government's hands?

Not necessarily. ...cuz barring some bs....they can always go to work

 

[Will Munny]

@deadeye

Since when is unemployment benefits considered government assistance? MFer you paid into that to insure your ass should you find yourself laid off.

I don't consider unemployment to be welfare..at all.

You really think someone who works at a resort for 4 months pays in enough to cover their unemployment for the remaining 8 months?

Get real, unemployment can be used to game the system like anything else.

How much you get and how long depends on your individual circumstances. If you been working long enough you will get the maximum time and amount.

It can be manipulated, as can anything. I knew I had six months so I rode that bitch out for six months.

Slow clap for being a drag on society.

 

[High Revolutionary]

^^Doing what, though?

Cats have to understand, everything comes with a price.

 

[Kat]

@deadeye

Since when is unemployment benefits considered government assistance? MFer you paid into that to insure your ass should you find yourself laid off.

I don't consider unemployment to be welfare..at all.

You really think someone who works at a resort for 4 months pays in enough to cover their unemployment for the remaining 8 months?

Get real, unemployment can be used to game the system like anything else.

How much you get and how long depends on your individual circumstances. If you been working long enough you will get the maximum time and amount.

It can be manipulated, as can anything. I knew I had six months so I rode that bitch out for six months.

Slow clap for being a drag on society.

Again, I pay in and I'll take as well.

I see you still mad though, stay mad Mr. Bitter Britches.

 

[Shizlansky]

Niggas in mad at ppl using the govement when the govement stay using us

 

[Kat]

Niggas in mad at ppl using the govement when the govement stay using us

Brainwashed.

 

[Will Munny]

@deadeye

Since when is unemployment benefits considered government assistance? MFer you paid into that to insure your ass should you find yourself laid off.

I don't consider unemployment to be welfare..at all.

You really think someone who works at a resort for 4 months pays in enough to cover their unemployment for the remaining 8 months?

Get real, unemployment can be used to game the system like anything else.

How much you get and how long depends on your individual circumstances. If you been working long enough you will get the maximum time and amount.

It can be manipulated, as can anything. I knew I had six months so I rode that bitch out for six months.

Slow clap for being a drag on society.

Again, I pay in and I'll take as well.

I see you still mad though, stay mad Mr. Bitter Britches.

The only people who "pay in" enough to make 6 months of unemployment good enough to ride out are the people who work year round. PERIOD.

 

[Crude_]

Niggas in mad at ppl using the govement when the govement stay using us

I don't know or see any 6 figure kneegrows on public assistance, much less millionaires.

You want to know why its because that ain't how people with money use the government, people with real money abuse and find loopholes in tax laws, get grants, file bankruptcy to restructure and not pay bills, etc.

Ain't nobody getting ahead on that little $1,200 fixed income they get from the government and I'm being very generous with that $ amount.

 

[Kat]

@deadeye

Since when is unemployment benefits considered government assistance? MFer you paid into that to insure your ass should you find yourself laid off.

I don't consider unemployment to be welfare..at all.

You really think someone who works at a resort for 4 months pays in enough to cover their unemployment for the remaining 8 months?

Get real, unemployment can be used to game the system like anything else.

How much you get and how long depends on your individual circumstances. If you been working long enough you will get the maximum time and amount.

It can be manipulated, as can anything. I knew I had six months so I rode that bitch out for six months.

Slow clap for being a drag on society.

Again, I pay in and I'll take as well.

I see you still mad though, stay mad Mr. Bitter Britches.

The only people who "pay in" enough to make 6 months of unemployment good enough to ride out are the people who work year round. PERIOD.

MFer, I DO work year round! Tf?

You're not even making sense right now.

Edit - Oh I think I see what you mean. My boo makes good money. That was just play money for me.

You're just jealous. Weren't you on food stamps at one point? As a single white male?

 

[Kat]

Niggas in mad at ppl using the govement when the govement stay using us

I don't know or see any 6 figure kneegrows on public assistance, much less millionaires.

You want to know why its because that ain't how people with money use the government, people with real money abuse and find loopholes in tax laws, get grants, file bankruptcy to restructure and not pay bills, etc.

Ain't nobody getting ahead on that little $1,200 fixed income they get from the government and I'm being very generous with that $ amount.

BUT they still find ways to benefit off the government, so who are they to cast judgement on anyone? They just doing it at a higher level.

 

[Elzo69Renaissance]

Great discussion

 

[Crude_]

Niggas in mad at ppl using the govement when the govement stay using us

I don't know or see any 6 figure kneegrows on public assistance, much less millionaires.

You want to know why its because that ain't how people with money use the government, people with real money abuse and find loopholes in tax laws, get grants, file bankruptcy to restructure and not pay bills, etc.

Ain't nobody getting ahead on that little $1,200 fixed income they get from the government and I'm being very generous with that $ amount.

BUT they still find ways to benefit off the government, so who are they to cast judgement on anyone? They just doing it at a higher level.

So we really going to compare millionaires figuring out ways to preserve and make more millions to people making pennies on the dollar literally.

I'm not casting judgement on anyone but single parent households, to many low income people living in small concentrated areas, crime, and little opportunity plague Black neighborhoods which is all a by product of this I do take issue with that.

If the government was giving Blacks and Black small business owners land grants and tax breaks I'd have no issue with that, but they know that's power in that so they dont do ish like that.

Rule Number #40 in the 48 Laws of Power

40. Despise the Free Lunch

What is offered for free is dangerous – it usually involves either a trick or a hidden obligation. What has worth is worth paying for. By paying your own way you stay clear of gratitude, guilt, and deceit. It is also often wise to pay the full price – there is no cutting corners with excellence. Be lavish with your money and keep it circulating, for generosity is a sign and a magnet for power.

 

[T. Sanford]

Niggas in mad at ppl using the govement when the govement stay using us

I don't know or see any 6 figure kneegrows on public assistance, much less millionaires.

You want to know why its because that ain't how people with money use the government, people with real money abuse and find loopholes in tax laws, get grants, file bankruptcy to restructure and not pay bills, etc.

Ain't nobody getting ahead on that little $1,200 fixed income they get from the government and I'm being very generous with that $ amount.

BUT they still find ways to benefit off the government, so who are they to cast judgement on anyone? They just doing it at a higher level.

So we really going to compare millionaires figuring out ways to preserve and make more millions to people making pennies on the dollar literally.

I'm not casting judgement on anyone but single parent households, to many low income people living in small concentrated areas, crime, and little opportunity plague Black neighborhoods which is all a by product of this I do take issue with that.

If the government was giving Blacks and Black small business owners land grants and tax breaks I'd have no issue with that, but they know that's power in that so they dont do ish like that.

Rule Number #40 in the 48 Laws of Power

40. Despise the Free Lunch

What is offered for free is dangerous – it usually involves either a trick or a hidden obligation. What has worth is worth paying for. By paying your own way you stay clear of gratitude, guilt, and deceit. It is also often wise to pay the full price – there is no cutting corners with excellence. Be lavish with your money and keep it circulating, for generosity is a sign and a magnet for power.

"What is offered for free or at bargain rates often comes with a psychological price tag"

 

[Will Munny]

@deadeye

Since when is unemployment benefits considered government assistance? MFer you paid into that to insure your ass should you find yourself laid off.

I don't consider unemployment to be welfare..at all.

You really think someone who works at a resort for 4 months pays in enough to cover their unemployment for the remaining 8 months?

Get real, unemployment can be used to game the system like anything else.

How much you get and how long depends on your individual circumstances. If you been working long enough you will get the maximum time and amount.

It can be manipulated, as can anything. I knew I had six months so I rode that bitch out for six months.

Slow clap for being a drag on society.

Again, I pay in and I'll take as well.

I see you still mad though, stay mad Mr. Bitter Britches.

The only people who "pay in" enough to make 6 months of unemployment good enough to ride out are the people who work year round. PERIOD.

MFer, I DO work year round! Tf?

You're not even making sense right now.

Edit - Oh I think I see what you mean. My boo makes good money. That was just play money for me.

You're just jealous. Weren't you on food stamps at one point? As a single white male?

Like I said, people who work full time paid for you play money. Cut it any way you want but that's a drag on society, especially since you already get resources from someone else.

lolol at the walking stereotype bringing up skin color tho

 

[Idiopathic Joker]

@deadeye

Since when is unemployment benefits considered government assistance? MFer you paid into that to insure your ass should you find yourself laid off.

I don't consider unemployment to be welfare..at all.

You really think someone who works at a resort for 4 months pays in enough to cover their unemployment for the remaining 8 months?

Get real, unemployment can be used to game the system like anything else.

How much you get and how long depends on your individual circumstances. If you been working long enough you will get the maximum time and amount.

It can be manipulated, as can anything. I knew I had six months so I rode that bitch out for six months.

Slow clap for being a drag on society.

Again, I pay in and I'll take as well.

I see you still mad though, stay mad Mr. Bitter Britches.

The only people who "pay in" enough to make 6 months of unemployment good enough to ride out are the people who work year round. PERIOD.

MFer, I DO work year round! Tf?

You're not even making sense right now.

Edit - Oh I think I see what you mean. My boo makes good money. That was just play money for me.

You're just jealous. Weren't you on food stamps at one point? As a single white male?

Like I said, people who work full time paid for you play money. Cut it any way you want but that's a drag on society, especially since you already get resources from someone else.

lolol at the walking stereotype bringing up skin color tho

Kat gets racial when she doesn't have an argument