Welfare, section 8, entitlements....let's talk about it...

[Crude_]

Personally, I don't really care for it as I believe it encourages more single parent homes, absentee parents, and people who get comfortable with their circumstances and never want anymore for themselves or their children.

I think it's responsible for a lot of the generational poverty you see amongst people today as well.

A lot these folks be in their 20s with 2-3 kids living like they've retired to a hefty pension and living the dream.

The reality is that although government assistance might be a short term come up for some who are at and below the poverty line, BUT most really never accomplish anything of substantialness such as home ownership, landownership, a 401K, etc.

Don't let having flat screen TVs, smartphones, decent to nice cars, nice clothes, fresh hairdos, and stuff probably bought with income tax money fool you most of those folks making like 20K a year or less.

I'm not against government assistance for the disabled and infirmed, but folks who are under like 50 years old and with no physical or mental disabilities need to be out here working putting money into social security etc.

 

[Ol Jay's]

smh @ caring about section 8 when At&t hasn't paid federal taxes and collected $34 billion in federal returns over the last 8 years

 

[7figz]

So I'm talking to my mans, I aint seen in a while...he like I'm having another kid....im like no disrespect fam but I'm doing well financially and I can't afford kids how u popping them out ....he like fam my rent is 100 dollars a month....in a decent to good neighborhood...im low key salty...lol

What are yall thoughts on this?

I'm lost here - are you saying dude is on section 8 and welfare, or are you just assuming it ?

Personally, I don't give a fuck about welfare. Especially not like how some people do. It's not like I'm going to get "welfare refund check" if they kick people off of welfare.

The government, and fools love to throw around how many "lazy people live like kings and buy jordans on welfare", but I feel like there's way more ways the government is taking and wasting our money - 100 times worse than welfare.

Fam if he tells me he is on it...how am I assuming it?

Ok I don't see that in the original post.

In any event though, I'm not about to be stressing over somebody on welfare like they're the enemy when I know the government takes our tax money for way wore more sinister reasons. I feel like that shit is a smokescreen. "Hey, worry about the people on welfare and not the fact that we spend billions on dumb shit."

If somebody finds ways to get money back from this thieving ass government then so be it. Besides, everybody pays taxes, they might be getting some of their own money back, or their families money, etc... Mfs be acting like it's coming directly out of their pocket.

Misplaced anger if you ask me.

 

[2stepz_ahead]

smh @ caring about section 8 when At&t hasn't paid federal taxes and collected $34 billion in federal returns over the last 8 years

why you care about at&t when you got metropcs.

all in they business... putting they shit in the streets

 

[Crude_]

smh @ caring about section 8 when At&t hasn't paid federal taxes and collected $34 billion in federal returns over the last 8 years

I don't give a shit about AT&T which is worth billions not paying taxes just like I didn't give a shit about Wesley Snipes not paying his taxes it's a none story in relation to where my interests lay.

I do however care about the plight of people who look like I do. The government will go throw these low income shindigs in our community and try to control us to a degree saying you can only make this much money to live here and such basically enticing us to stay here and in poverty.

Everybody here probably got their phone AT&T, Sprint, T-Mobile, or Verizon which are all basically the same company split up to make it more competitive. I bet ain't nobody here canceling their cell phone service because of these loopholes these companies take advantage of though. You should research the 7 Baby Bells if you haven't already.

 

[Ol Jay's]

smh @ caring about section 8 when At&t hasn't paid federal taxes and collected $34 billion in federal returns over the last 8 years

I don't give a shit about AT&T which is worth billions not paying taxes just like I didn't give a shit about Wesley Snipes not paying his taxes it's a none story in relation to where my interests lay.

I do however care about the plight of people who look like I do. The government will go throw these low income shindigs in our community and try to control us to a degree saying you can only make this much money to live here and such basically enticing us to stay here and in poverty.

Everybody here probably got their phone AT&T, Sprint, T-Mobile, or Verizon which are all basically the same company split up to make it more competitive. I bet ain't nobody here canceling their cell phone service because of these loopholes these companies take advantage of though. You should research the 7 Baby Bells if you haven't already.

section 8 isn't designed to keep folks in poverty, it's a tool used to allow low income folks an opportunity to live in middle class neighborhoods thus giving low income kids to attend better schools

We pay taxes, so We fund the government, and I'd rather complain about my tax dollars going to corporations than to those living in poverty

Low income people spend a lot of money so that means they're paying sales taxes, so in actuality they're paying just as much taxes as the next

 

[deadeye]

@SimplyKrys

"I know that struggle too honey." - @Kat

Don't misquote me.

If I find myself in a situation where I actually qualify for the shit, you damn right I'm about to take full advantage.

The government takes advantage of us whenever they can so why not return the favor when you can?

What I wouldn't do is make it a career. That shit is stressful and the food stamp office smells like struggle and depression.

@Kat

I know that's right sister.

nh

Seriously though, I wasn't trying to shame you or anything.

I did the same thing myself when I got laid off a few years back.

Not food stamps, but I got as much unemployment as I could.

People I used to work with wouldn't take it because they were embarrassed about it, but I used to think about how much the government used to take out of my checks (FICA and all that other shit) and thought.........with all the tax dollars that got taken out of my check going towards helping other people.......this was an opportunity to get some of that money back and use it to help myself.

No shame at all.

But yeah, I agree with you Kat.

Anybody who falls on hard times would be a damn fool not to get whatever kind of government assistance they can.

 

[Ol Jay's]

section 8 is the reason why Chicago isn't as bad as it used to be

 

[Kat]

@deadeye

Since when is unemployment benefits considered government assistance? MFer you paid into that to insure your ass should you find yourself laid off.

I don't consider unemployment to be welfare..at all.

 

[Ol Jay's]

@deadeye

Since when is unemployment benefits considered government assistance? MFer you paid into that to insure your ass should you find yourself laid off.

I don't consider unemployment to be welfare..at all.

if we look at it like this, then government assistance is no different, we're paying into those programs too aka taxes

I don't understand how people believe that the money the government shells out is some kind of magical money that appears out of thin air, it's OUR money

 

[Kat]

@deadeye

Since when is unemployment benefits considered government assistance? MFer you paid into that to insure your ass should you find yourself laid off.

I don't consider unemployment to be welfare..at all.

if we look at it like this, then government assistance is no different, we're paying into those programs too aka taxes

I don't understand how people believe that the money the government shells out is some kind of magical money that appears out of thin air, it's OUR money

Nah. You can't qualify for unemployment unless you've been working and have put in on it. Not the case for welfare.

The fact that I've worked for most my adult life is why I feel no guilt jumping on those food stamps the couple times I've qualified over the years. They can owe me for a little bit.

 

[Elzo69Renaissance]

@deadeye

Since when is unemployment benefits considered government assistance? MFer you paid into that to insure your ass should you find yourself laid off.

I don't consider unemployment to be welfare..at all.

if we look at it like this, then government assistance is no different, we're paying into those programs too aka taxes

I don't understand how people believe that the money the government shells out is some kind of magical money that appears out of thin air, it's OUR money

Nah. You can't qualify for unemployment unless you've been working and have put in on it. Not the case for welfare.

The fact that I've worked for most my adult life is why I feel no guilt jumping on those food stamps the couple times I've qualified over the years. They can owe me for a little bit.

U pay into unemployment insurance

 

[Will Munny]

@deadeye

Since when is unemployment benefits considered government assistance? MFer you paid into that to insure your ass should you find yourself laid off.

I don't consider unemployment to be welfare..at all.

You really think someone who works at a resort for 4 months pays in enough to cover their unemployment for the remaining 8 months?

Get real, unemployment can be used to game the system like anything else.

 

[Kat]

@deadeye

Since when is unemployment benefits considered government assistance? MFer you paid into that to insure your ass should you find yourself laid off.

I don't consider unemployment to be welfare..at all.

if we look at it like this, then government assistance is no different, we're paying into those programs too aka taxes

I don't understand how people believe that the money the government shells out is some kind of magical money that appears out of thin air, it's OUR money

Nah. You can't qualify for unemployment unless you've been working and have put in on it. Not the case for welfare.

The fact that I've worked for most my adult life is why I feel no guilt jumping on those food stamps the couple times I've qualified over the years. They can owe me for a little bit.

U pay into unemployment insurance

That's what I just said..I don't get what you mean.

 

[Crude_]

smh @ caring about section 8 when At&t hasn't paid federal taxes and collected $34 billion in federal returns over the last 8 years

I don't give a shit about AT&T which is worth billions not paying taxes just like I didn't give a shit about Wesley Snipes not paying his taxes it's a none story in relation to where my interests lay.

I do however care about the plight of people who look like I do. The government will go throw these low income shindigs in our community and try to control us to a degree saying you can only make this much money to live here and such basically enticing us to stay here and in poverty.

Everybody here probably got their phone AT&T, Sprint, T-Mobile, or Verizon which are all basically the same company split up to make it more competitive. I bet ain't nobody here canceling their cell phone service because of these loopholes these companies take advantage of though. You should research the 7 Baby Bells if you haven't already.

section 8 isn't designed to keep folks in poverty, it's a tool used to allow low income folks an opportunity to live in middle class neighborhoods thus giving low income kids to attend better schools

We pay taxes, so We fund the government, and I'd rather complain about my tax dollars going to corporations than to those living in poverty

Low income people spend a lot of money so that means they're paying sales taxes, so in actuality they're paying just as much taxes as the next

Section 8 keeps people in poverty.

I've seen 2 generations of families get on it that lived right across the street from me in my own lifetime.

I don't know where you live but in Louisiana where I live they don't even put that low income housing in middle class neighborhoods. They are put in low income parts of town. I have also noticed they are going away from those high rise multiple unit apartments and putting up the ones that look just like small single family homes in the middle of these low income areas.

Where I live they are all concentrated on the Southside of town where you know who lives.

That program was set up for the disabled and people who fell on hard times, it was not set up for people to be living entire lifetimes on.

 

[Kat]

@deadeye

Since when is unemployment benefits considered government assistance? MFer you paid into that to insure your ass should you find yourself laid off.

I don't consider unemployment to be welfare..at all.

You really think someone who works at a resort for 4 months pays in enough to cover their unemployment for the remaining 8 months?

Get real, unemployment can be used to game the system like anything else.

How much you get and how long depends on your individual circumstances. If you been working long enough you will get the maximum time and amount.

It can be manipulated, as can anything. I knew I had six months so I rode that bitch out for six months.

 

[semi-auto-mato]

smh @ caring about section 8 when At&t hasn't paid federal taxes and collected $34 billion in federal returns over the last 8 years

I don't give a shit about AT&T which is worth billions not paying taxes just like I didn't give a shit about Wesley Snipes not paying his taxes it's a none story in relation to where my interests lay.

I do however care about the plight of people who look like I do. The government will go throw these low income shindigs in our community and try to control us to a degree saying you can only make this much money to live here and such basically enticing us to stay here and in poverty.

Everybody here probably got their phone AT&T, Sprint, T-Mobile, or Verizon which are all basically the same company split up to make it more competitive. I bet ain't nobody here canceling their cell phone service because of these loopholes these companies take advantage of though. You should research the 7 Baby Bells if you haven't already.

section 8 isn't designed to keep folks in poverty, it's a tool used to allow low income folks an opportunity to live in middle class neighborhoods thus giving low income kids to attend better schools

We pay taxes, so We fund the government, and I'd rather complain about my tax dollars going to corporations than to those living in poverty

Low income people spend a lot of money so that means they're paying sales taxes, so in actuality they're paying just as much taxes as the next

i dont think this is true. section 8 doesn't have any type of requirement that says that it has to be a middle class neighborhood. if u are a private landlord in any neighborhood u can apply to the section 8 program. u just have to make sure the housing meets their guidelines and neighborhood status aint one of them.

they may spend a lot in tax dollars but that dont help me when i gotta repair damages that they have done to my house. abuse of the system and letting these folks run crazy is costly to private landlords like me. we apply for the program because at first glance it seems like guaranteed money but in the end it can cost us thousands. perhaps it works better in them big apartment complexes. the idea of section 8 is a good one but the execution of the program....not so good.

 

[D. Morgan]

smh @ caring about section 8 when At&t hasn't paid federal taxes and collected $34 billion in federal returns over the last 8 years

I don't give a shit about AT&T which is worth billions not paying taxes just like I didn't give a shit about Wesley Snipes not paying his taxes it's a none story in relation to where my interests lay.

I do however care about the plight of people who look like I do. The government will go throw these low income shindigs in our community and try to control us to a degree saying you can only make this much money to live here and such basically enticing us to stay here and in poverty.

Everybody here probably got their phone AT&T, Sprint, T-Mobile, or Verizon which are all basically the same company split up to make it more competitive. I bet ain't nobody here canceling their cell phone service because of these loopholes these companies take advantage of though. You should research the 7 Baby Bells if you haven't already.

section 8 isn't designed to keep folks in poverty, it's a tool used to allow low income folks an opportunity to live in middle class neighborhoods thus giving low income kids to attend better schools

We pay taxes, so We fund the government, and I'd rather complain about my tax dollars going to corporations than to those living in poverty

Low income people spend a lot of money so that means they're paying sales taxes, so in actuality they're paying just as much taxes as the next

Where you get the italicized info from?

 

[Ol Jay's]

smh @ caring about section 8 when At&t hasn't paid federal taxes and collected $34 billion in federal returns over the last 8 years

I don't give a shit about AT&T which is worth billions not paying taxes just like I didn't give a shit about Wesley Snipes not paying his taxes it's a none story in relation to where my interests lay.

I do however care about the plight of people who look like I do. The government will go throw these low income shindigs in our community and try to control us to a degree saying you can only make this much money to live here and such basically enticing us to stay here and in poverty.

Everybody here probably got their phone AT&T, Sprint, T-Mobile, or Verizon which are all basically the same company split up to make it more competitive. I bet ain't nobody here canceling their cell phone service because of these loopholes these companies take advantage of though. You should research the 7 Baby Bells if you haven't already.

section 8 isn't designed to keep folks in poverty, it's a tool used to allow low income folks an opportunity to live in middle class neighborhoods thus giving low income kids to attend better schools

We pay taxes, so We fund the government, and I'd rather complain about my tax dollars going to corporations than to those living in poverty

Low income people spend a lot of money so that means they're paying sales taxes, so in actuality they're paying just as much taxes as the next

i dont think this is true. section 8 doesn't have any type of requirement that says that it has to be a middle class neighborhood. if u are a private landlord in any neighborhood u can apply to the section 8 program. u just have to make sure the housing meets their guidelines and neighborhood status aint one of them.

they may spend a lot in tax dollars but that dont help me when i gotta repair damages that they have done to my house. abuse of the system and letting these folks run crazy is costly to private landlords like me. we apply for the program because at first glance it seems like guaranteed money but in the end it can cost us thousands. perhaps it works better in them big apartment complexes. the idea of section 8 is a good one but the execution of the program....not so good.

bro reread my post

Nowhere in it do I say "its a requirement that section 8 has to be in middle class neighborhoods"

I said "it's a tool used to allow low income folks an opportunity to live in middle class neighborhoods", meaning it's not just offered in low income neighborhoods as suggested by the poster I was responding to

 

[Ol Jay's]

smh @ caring about section 8 when At&t hasn't paid federal taxes and collected $34 billion in federal returns over the last 8 years

I don't give a shit about AT&T which is worth billions not paying taxes just like I didn't give a shit about Wesley Snipes not paying his taxes it's a none story in relation to where my interests lay.

I do however care about the plight of people who look like I do. The government will go throw these low income shindigs in our community and try to control us to a degree saying you can only make this much money to live here and such basically enticing us to stay here and in poverty.

Everybody here probably got their phone AT&T, Sprint, T-Mobile, or Verizon which are all basically the same company split up to make it more competitive. I bet ain't nobody here canceling their cell phone service because of these loopholes these companies take advantage of though. You should research the 7 Baby Bells if you haven't already.

section 8 isn't designed to keep folks in poverty, it's a tool used to allow low income folks an opportunity to live in middle class neighborhoods thus giving low income kids to attend better schools

We pay taxes, so We fund the government, and I'd rather complain about my tax dollars going to corporations than to those living in poverty

Low income people spend a lot of money so that means they're paying sales taxes, so in actuality they're paying just as much taxes as the next

Where you get the italicized info from?

observation, I have seen people here and in Illinois utilize section 8 as such