Wayne might never fall of...does that anger you?

Jay was a rap-Cocaine-kingpin back when Wayne was simply a Hot-boy.

Before Wayne picked up his guitar JayZ was doing entire albums with Linkin Park and duets with Lenny Kravitz.

Before LiL Wayne was riding a skateboard JayZ was riding a Roller-Coaster in the "Sunshine" video.

If LiL Wayne is EMO then who was the first rapper to make the "Song cry"?

To his credit JayZ has not embraced any gang-affiliation but he has claimed ties to Calvin "Kliene" Bacote's drug-gang which Calvin vehemently refuted while relegating Shawn Carter to Mule status.

So before we chastise Wayne for his marketing genius let us take a deeper look at the rappers who laid the Blueprint.

slow down don't drop to much truth at once keep some for follow up .....

 

[tompetrez3]

It's called artist growth & staying relevant. It's all entertainment at the end of the day & if u dont keep changing to keep people entertained their gonna leave u & find someone else who will.

nope its called dick riding because he builds his whole "invincible" persona off his skill and influence. for a man to call himself the god mc he should be the one ahead of these styles he bit not behind them. none of those years rofl listed were coincidence thats jay z year by year leeching off the core creativity of hip hop. he aint never started nothing new. NEVER. no motherfuckin bitch ass jigga warrior in here can convince me otherwise. yall give this nigga a pass for this shit but yall shit on wayne the same time. make up yall damn mind. thats right. niggas cant make up their minds because they just like guillible open bitches that let these rappers tell them what the want to hear. please jigga warriors yall can love jay z all you want. there is nothing wrong with being a jay z fan. im a jay z fan myself but you niggas really need to stop trying to live through this selfish bitch ass nigga and be happy with your own lives. when you are making countless excuses for a man its like you are a battered woman because uncle otis molested yall and beat yall upside the head 13 times with bullshit albums. i can call a shelter for you dudes if you would like me to

 

[...MVP...]

nope its called dick riding because he builds his whole "invincible" persona off his skill and influence. for a man to call himself the god mc he should be the one ahead of these styles he bit not behind them. none of those years rofl listed were coincidence thats jay z year by year leeching off the core creativity of hip hop. he aint never started nothing new. NEVER. no motherfuckin bitch ass jigga warrior in here can convince me otherwise. yall give this nigga a pass for this shit but yall shit on wayne the same time. make up yall damn mind. thats right. niggas cant make up their minds because they just like guillible open bitches that let these rappers tell them what the want to hear. please jigga warriors yall can love jay z all you want. there is nothing wrong with being a jay z fan. im a jay z fan myself but you niggas really need to stop trying to live through this selfish bitch ass nigga and be happy with your own lives. when you are making countless excuses for a man its like you are a battered woman because uncle otis molested yall and beat yall upside the head 13 times with bullshit albums. i can call a shelter for you dudes if you would like me to

You got heads of Camels mounted on your wall, don't you?

 

I got a question though how do u niggas think TIP feel about watching Wayne take over a spot that was once his ?

 

[BelovedAfeni]

This kid is amazing.

He's not even 30 years old yet but he has 9 solo albums that are certified Gold and Platinum, to put that in perspective that's a discography equal to Nas in plaques.

To understand the popularity and appeal of LiL Wayne you first need to know this: for the last 8 years since 2004 LiL Wayne has had a Gold or platinum selling single on the charts every year Consistency.

Wayne's solo debut was in 1999 and here we are in 2012 and C4 is double-platinum and a song were the former Hot Boy is SINGING (How to Love) is double-platinum also. Reinvented himself.

But that's not even the half: Waynes right-hand man Drake is the 2nd most popular rapper/singer on the planet that isn't white and his wifey Nicky is the reigning Queen of Hip-PoP and one of the most popular pop-tarts in the game. A solid team.

He may be at the peak of his popularity and the worse his music gets the more his music sells so I can't see him falling off....does this make you angry?

dude is in his zone
him and ross need to some rae and ghost type shit
between them two i dont see any "commercial" competition

 

[Smo-King Locs]

LMFAAAAOOO @ the elderly dick sucking, i fux with Wayne 2 death,he's one of the greats , but eventually he will fall off, nobody remains hot 4 ever ,eventually wayne will fall off... Jay is in his last stand too..

 

[Cabana_Da_Don]

I got a question though how do u niggas think TIP feel about watching Wayne take over a spot that was once his ?

I think he feels like he missed the opportunity to be as famous as wayne.Dude had Paper Trail and that shit was bigger than BIG.But he went to jail way too many times dude slipped on his own.

 

[Bcotton5]

YMCMB Double M we rich forever!

 

[idoitforhiphop10]

Not angry...

It's just sad that garbage sells.

Skill wise he been fell off tho....popularity? He getting bigger

^^^^^^^^^^^^

 

[bankrupt baller]

eminem might never fall off

does that anger you?

sounds thread worthy

 

[DarthRozay]

eminem might never fall off

does that anger you?

dont you dare mention him! we dont need 'her' stinking up this thread with the smell of bullshit and curry

 

[antarticp]

Not angry...

It's just sad that garbage sells.

Skill wise he been fell off tho....popularity? He getting bigger

i wouldnt say lil wayne is garbage per say ... altho he rights now he still has a freestyle kind of style ... which can be seen as "garbage" but i wouldnt go that far .. wayne can rap and got skills

 

[D.Original]

yo hrap, arent you a 5% ? i dont understand all this bullshit appreciating you do.

 

[frozenheartwjlb]

Does this really surprise anyone??? Look who he had has mentoring him in the game since the day he came in. Instead of talking about Wayne never falling off lets talk about Cash Money as a label (BIRDMAN AND SLIM)... Dudes have had an amazing run in the game, even Birdman has kept a successful rap carrer going since he was with the Big Tymers. Cash Money as a label have seen more success than majority of labels would ever hope for. They find ways to reinvent themselfs consistantly, and stay with what is hot. While also creating trends as they go. However if you notice with Wayne he is not at his peak popularity wise, his peak was during C3. He has stayed relevant by leaching onto his crew (Drake and Nikki). Much like Birdman has done with his career, I am curious just to see how Wayne does on his next album. If this album is any indication, he may be in trouble... Drake is next in line to carry the torch for YMCMB. And to answer the question, about being angry at Wayne's success. It does make me angry, but at the same time it don't. I am angry that when he puts out garbage from a hip-hop perspective it sells. But when he was dropping his best material he was largly overlooked. Wayne music wise was at his peak from 02-07. Ever since he has slowly declined. But at least he is getting the shine he deserved, no one works as hard as Weezy. Yet alone has had the career he has had.

 

[Knives Amilli]

Of course he's hot right now, he's the front man for this generation. He personifies what most people are about nowadays.

Completely substance-less and driven by materialistic, shallow id.

 

Wayne isn't nice.
Juvenile put the South on the forefront. Him and Outkast both.

H-Rap, do you have your history right? The mainstream are bunch of idiots. You let their opinions matters? Casual idiots? I'm ashamed of you, good nite.

don't let h-rap fool u yea it looks like he is paying homage to wayne but if u look close he is taking a shit on the boy ....

 

[sTaY_TrUe]

Im already getting tired of listening to wayne. Been listening to him since he first started rapping and I honestly don't see my self still banging his music 5 or 10 yrs from now

 

[ROFL.GUY]

1 out of 100 ROFL

glad ive never listened to any song by him

http://www.billboard.com/#/charts/billboard-200?begin=101&order=position

At the 2000 VMAs, Eminem's performance of "The Real Slim Shady" featured him walking across Sixth Avenue in Manhattan and into Radio City Music Hall followed by a few hundred extras that had been styled in his image, bleached hair and all. The performance was an arresting, and very literal, visual representation of the song's claim of there being "a million of us just like me." Pittsburgh rapper Mac Miller is having his "'The Real Slim Shady' at the VMAS" moment right now, even if he'll never actually perform there. There are hundreds of thousands of listeners trailing him intensely-- Blue Slide Park sold just about 145,000 copes in its first week in stores, making it the first independently distributed debut album to go No. 1 in 16 years. And the reason Miller's mass of fans follow him is not because of his music, at least not completely. It's because he looks just like them, because they can see themselves up on the stage behind him, if not next to him.

It's a presumptive conclusion, but it's hard to find much, if anything, in Miller's music that suggests otherwise. He is an outsider, but he brings no outsider's perspective to his music. Forget Eminem, Miller's point of view is less unique than Asher Roth's or Childish Gambino's. He lusts after fame, money, and women, and he smokes weed and parties. Obviously, there's nothing wrong with that; it is rap music, of course. But it does raise the question of why Miller is so popular, because despite his claim of being a cross between John Lennon and UGK, he's mostly just a crushingly bland, more intolerable version of Wiz Khalifa without the chops, desire, or pocketbook for enjoyable singles. Unless you buy into Miller's persona-- and why would you?-- Blue Slide Park offers you nothing that you can't find done more much artfully by, say, Curren$y.

This is, in a way, rap music's fault. Mac Miller has been called "frat rap," and while there's a slight truth to that, the term leaves unacknowledged the fact that frat guys used to engage with the rap world writ large. That interaction may have involved an unhealthy appreciation for Jurassic 5, but it also involved rocking YoungbloodZ and Ying Yang Twins songs at parties. The pop world has left rap behind, save four or five rappers, and it's opened a door for someone like Mac Miller to seize the college-aged, white-male fanbase. If that fanbase is interacting less with rap music, then maybe they've rallied around Miller because he also barely engages with the wider rap world. Consider the fact that Blue Slide Park has not one feature-- not a guest verse or chorus. For a contemporary rap album, let alone a No. 1 rap album, that is basically unheard-of. Before you consider that to be a noble pursuit, the album could've used somebody, anybody, to break up the monotony of Miller on the mic.

Miller's world is a hermetic one, and unless it's one you inhabit, the album holds no appeal. It's a normal rap album, sure, but as listeners we should strive for more than a no-stakes work by a guy wearing the same streetwear brands and snapbacks as everyone else, who has merely found a niche and exploited it. Miller's hustle can't be knocked, and it shouldn't be, but his art is 144,487 times less remarkable than his first week sales numbers would have you believe. His success is not a mirage, no. But it is a projection.

 

[Bcotton5]

Does this really surprise anyone??? Look who he had has mentoring him in the game since the day he came in. Instead of talking about Wayne never falling off lets talk about Cash Money as a label (BIRDMAN AND SLIM)... Dudes have had an amazing run in the game, even Birdman has kept a successful rap carrer going since he was with the Big Tymers. Cash Money as a label have seen more success than majority of labels would ever hope for. They find ways to reinvent themselfs consistantly, and stay with what is hot. While also creating trends as they go. However if you notice with Wayne he is not at his peak popularity wise, his peak was during C3. He has stayed relevant by leaching onto his crew (Drake and Nikki). Much like Birdman has done with his career, I am curious just to see how Wayne does on his next album. If this album is any indication, he may be in trouble... Drake is next in line to carry the torch for YMCMB. And to answer the question, about being angry at Wayne's success. It does make me angry, but at the same time it don't. I am angry that when he puts out garbage from a hip-hop perspective it sells. But when he was dropping his best material he was largly overlooked. Wayne music wise was at his peak from 02-07. Ever since he has slowly declined. But at least he is getting the shine he deserved, no one works as hard as Weezy. Yet alone has had the career he has had.

yea hes the GOAT

 

[MrCrafty]

Wayne's only weak album is C4, C3 grew on me & I hated that shit when it first came out