Was Spike Lee Wrong For Making 'Chiraq' A Satire?

[desertrain10]

Don't be afraid to hold parents accountable

Don't worry we aren't ...

For years, suburban municipalities have required parents to pay fines or restitution when their children are caught breaking the law

Parents are also often timed required to pay the costs incurred when their child is incarcerated in a juvenile detention facility

Resulting in poor parents incurring thousands of debt

Even now in Chicago parents are being thrown in jail because they could not afford to pay truancy fines

Not sure how that'll help these children or their parents, but we have to hold ppl accountable right?

I was referring to castration

Funny

But can we drop this idea poor blk parents are largely incompetent, don't value education, need an lesson in parenting

Or that we aren't holding them accountable

It's not the reason why places like Chiraq exist

 

[S2J]

So it's like a clockers 2?

 

[Arya Tsaddiq]

Don't be afraid to hold parents accountable

Don't worry we aren't ...

For years, suburban municipalities have required parents to pay fines or restitution when their children are caught breaking the law

Parents are also often timed required to pay the costs incurred when their child is incarcerated in a juvenile detention facility

Resulting in poor parents incurring thousands of debt

Even now in Chicago parents are being thrown in jail because they could not afford to pay truancy fines

Not sure how that'll help these children or their parents, but we have to hold ppl accountable right?

I was referring to castration

Funny

But can we drop this idea poor blk parents are largely incompetent, don't value education, need an lesson in parenting

Or that we aren't holding them accountable

It's not the reason why places like Chiraq exist

I wouldn't say largely.... But I would argue lax parenting does play a part. Did you watch this from my AA culture thread? How do you feel about this?

 

[desertrain10]

Don't be afraid to hold parents accountable

Don't worry we aren't ...

For years, suburban municipalities have required parents to pay fines or restitution when their children are caught breaking the law

Parents are also often timed required to pay the costs incurred when their child is incarcerated in a juvenile detention facility

Resulting in poor parents incurring thousands of debt

Even now in Chicago parents are being thrown in jail because they could not afford to pay truancy fines

Not sure how that'll help these children or their parents, but we have to hold ppl accountable right?

I was referring to castration

Funny

But can we drop this idea poor blk parents are largely incompetent, don't value education, need an lesson in parenting

Or that we aren't holding them accountable

It's not the reason why places like Chiraq exist

I wouldn't say largely.... But I would argue lax parenting does play a part. Did you watch this from my AA culture thread? How do you feel about this?

Poor blk parents are no less moral or care no less for their children than their middle class, wealthy peers

The only thing that seperated these two groups is money and access

 

[Brother_Five]

Don't be afraid to hold parents accountable

Don't worry we aren't ...

For years, suburban municipalities have required parents to pay fines or restitution when their children are caught breaking the law

Parents are also often timed required to pay the costs incurred when their child is incarcerated in a juvenile detention facility

Resulting in poor parents incurring thousands of debt

Even now in Chicago parents are being thrown in jail because they could not afford to pay truancy fines

Not sure how that'll help these children or their parents, but we have to hold ppl accountable right?

I was referring to castration

Funny

But can we drop this idea poor blk parents are largely incompetent, don't value education, need an lesson in parenting

Or that we aren't holding them accountable

It's not the reason why places like Chiraq exist

There are parents who are not adequately supervising their children. That is not an indictment of all black parents. If 3 or 4 of your kids are gangbanging, we need to have a convo about your lack of parenting.

 

[Arya Tsaddiq]

Don't be afraid to hold parents accountable

Don't worry we aren't ...

For years, suburban municipalities have required parents to pay fines or restitution when their children are caught breaking the law

Parents are also often timed required to pay the costs incurred when their child is incarcerated in a juvenile detention facility

Resulting in poor parents incurring thousands of debt

Even now in Chicago parents are being thrown in jail because they could not afford to pay truancy fines

Not sure how that'll help these children or their parents, but we have to hold ppl accountable right?

I was referring to castration

Funny

But can we drop this idea poor blk parents are largely incompetent, don't value education, need an lesson in parenting

Or that we aren't holding them accountable

It's not the reason why places like Chiraq exist

I wouldn't say largely.... But I would argue lax parenting does play a part. Did you watch this from my AA culture thread? How do you feel about this?

Poor blk parents are no less moral or no less competent than their middle class, wealthy peers

Ok.

What would you say is the main factor contributing the types of family structures displayed in that video?

And from a cultural standpoint, is it more acceptable for AA than other races?

 

[desertrain10]

Don't be afraid to hold parents accountable

Don't worry we aren't ...

For years, suburban municipalities have required parents to pay fines or restitution when their children are caught breaking the law

Parents are also often timed required to pay the costs incurred when their child is incarcerated in a juvenile detention facility

Resulting in poor parents incurring thousands of debt

Even now in Chicago parents are being thrown in jail because they could not afford to pay truancy fines

Not sure how that'll help these children or their parents, but we have to hold ppl accountable right?

I was referring to castration

Funny

But can we drop this idea poor blk parents are largely incompetent, don't value education, need an lesson in parenting

Or that we aren't holding them accountable

It's not the reason why places like Chiraq exist

There are parents who are not adequately supervising their children. That is not an indictment of all black parents. If 3 or 4 of your kids are gangbanging, we need to have a convo about your lack of parenting.

Ok, well we can agree there are bad parents of all backgrounds and socioeconomic statuses

My question is having a convo is going to accomplish what exactly if a mother and or father work schedules prevents them from adequately supervising their children? or what if they struggle with substance abuse?

We already have laws that penalize parents momentarily for the actions of their children

At a certain point should we take away their children and place them in foster care?

 

[Brother_Five]

Don't be afraid to hold parents accountable

Don't worry we aren't ...

For years, suburban municipalities have required parents to pay fines or restitution when their children are caught breaking the law

Parents are also often timed required to pay the costs incurred when their child is incarcerated in a juvenile detention facility

Resulting in poor parents incurring thousands of debt

Even now in Chicago parents are being thrown in jail because they could not afford to pay truancy fines

Not sure how that'll help these children or their parents, but we have to hold ppl accountable right?

I was referring to castration

Funny

But can we drop this idea poor blk parents are largely incompetent, don't value education, need an lesson in parenting

Or that we aren't holding them accountable

It's not the reason why places like Chiraq exist

There are parents who are not adequately supervising their children. That is not an indictment of all black parents. If 3 or 4 of your kids are gangbanging, we need to have a convo about your lack of parenting.

Ok, well we can agree there are bad parents of all backgrounds and socioeconomic statuses

My question is having a convo is going to accomplish what exactly if a mother and or father work schedules prevents them from adequately supervising their children? or what if they struggle with substance abuse?

We already have laws that penalize parents momentarily for the actions of their children

At a certain point should we take away their children and place them in foster care?

You attempt to provide assistance on a case by case basis.

Fining ppl is not the only way to hold them accountable.

What ever your situation, they are your gawd damn kids.

 

[Peace_79]

From my perspective, it's not external de-incentivization and accountability we're looking for ... It's more internal accountability on a community, neighborhood, and personal level.

Easier said than done ...

 

[JokerzWyld]

"Conscious community" run the dealers off of the streets...

I remember when I was this naive. Listen no one is running off dealers/gangs. The members of the community would have to regularly put their lives at risk. Who's going to do that?

"Conscious community" run the dealers off of the streets...

I remember when I was this naive. Listen no one is running off dealers/gangs. The members of the community would have to regularly put their lives at risk. Who's going to do that?

I feel you on you post. The problem is that their lives are at risk anyway. Innocents are killed via stray bullets all the time. Men & women are robbed & killed by armed thugs in the community too. Just being afraid solves nothing. Movements require action.

Imagine if Malcolm was too afraid to talk to the thugs in Harlem. Change doesn't happen from armchairs.

 

[Swiffness!]

these chi-town niggas sound so defensive


lmfao @ these deep lyrics, wow these chicago rappers are kickin knowledge b

i'm totally convinced now, Spike should've made a boring documentary about how idiot Chicago niggas shooting 9 y/os bear no responsibility for their actions

 

[IceBergTaylor]

This movie is misunderstood because of the title.

I thought it was good and informative.

7/10

and fuck rhymefest.

 

[_God_]

95th n wentworth on chief

 

[_God_]

Its pretty clear to me why places like Chiraq exist... y'all caught up on the most basic shit.

should we stop the fucking violence or nah?

Violence make the world go round b

 

[The_Jackal]

Will to power

 

[Peace_79]

i'm totally convinced now, Spike should've made a boring documentary about how idiot Chicago niggas shooting 9 y/os bear no responsibility for their actions

You do know there is an entire spectrum of nuance between distasteful and boring, right?

 

[KingFreeman]

This movie is misunderstood because of the title.

I thought it was good and informative.

7/10

and fuck rhymefest.

That was one rhymefests main points. Spike had been passing the script/screenplay around. Nobody gave a fuck about it till he named it "chiraq". That's when crackers started throwing loot at it. That was one of rhymefest's issues. As opposed to maybe taking advantage of that situation like only spike could it seems he was taken advantage of. This shit could have been about philly, detroit, or ny. He missed an opportunity to tackle what's really going on in "chiraq" while using "chiraq" to get over while doing nothing for "chiraq".

 

[D0wn]

This movie is misunderstood because of the title.

I thought it was good and informative.

7/10

and fuck rhymefest.

That was one rhymefests main points. Spike had been passing the script/screenplay around. Nobody gave a fuck about it till he named it "chiraq". That's when crackers started throwing loot at it. That was one of rhymefest's issues. As opposed to maybe taking advantage of that situation like only spike could it seems he was taken advantage of. This shit could have been about philly, detroit, or ny. He missed an opportunity to tackle what's really going on in "chiraq" while using "chiraq" to get over while doing nothing for "chiraq".

What's occurring in Chiraq, is nothing new or different...a lack of resources create, a lack of opportunities. the over Flooding of the streets with guns ain't help.

now u got a bunch of young kids raging with hormones, trapped, lacking, and with an abundance of guns fighting for scraps...

That's Somalia, Jamica, Haiti, The Villas of Brazil, Cuba, ...etc

that's the issue, a lack of resources.... and it bring us to the call for the redistribution of wealth.

 

[KingFreeman]

Cause its not actually about Chicago...

 

[KingFreeman]

I have.

Should have been more clear but its pointless.