Was it worth Benzino losing the Source

[nujerz84]

Sorry my dude, but I'm not buying it. Why would the underground pay homage to eminem in 2011? What has he done in the last 15 years in regards to the underground hip hop scene? You're naming stuff he may have partaken in, but what was his impact in those regards to earn anybody's respect? Like you think people who were involved in the Rap Olympics (during the time he participated and got his ass ate up) respect him now knowing that while he was trying to infiltrate black culture he was "secretly" disrespecting it at the same time? The Rock the Bells shit had me laughing. Picture this. Raekwon goes on and does him. Followed by Nas. Followed by KRS. Then Eminem. What is he going to perform? The Real Slim Shady? Ass Like That? Kim? My Fault? Reality is regardless of his few past endeavors, eminem choose his path. His path consisted of pop music that has absolutely no lasting effect. Notice how when respectable hip hop outlets mention hip hop albums of greatest, an eminem project is rarely mentioned. The crazy part is, for as below average as eminem catalog is, imagine how much worse it would be if he didnt have the greatest producer ever at his disposal? Hmm..

I just name some of them.. Fact u dismiss losing to JUice is the finals in Overtime (duded dint get ate up as u claim) is laughable considering JUICE is perhaps the 1 of the greatest freestyle MC's of all time I probably forgot to mention rocking the Lyricist Lounge Tours, Duck Down Records wanting to sign dude off those appearances.... Dude opened Up for Big Pun, Wu Tang Clan and others when he was underground, how the hell u think he generated any buzz in the firstplace u dismissing his whole underground work is funny... More than anyother rapper in the game right now Em helped make Freestyle Battles Popular no coincedence after 8 Mile Blew up the popularity of URL, Smack, even Freestyle Friday grew big time and he still host battles from time to time n the D.

Dude did shows sharing the same stage as WuTang, Nas and KRS both before and after "racist tapes" show I just shitted on your point with The Rock The Bells Shit.

As an MC even if they dont fuck with the music EM earned his props and respect as skilled MC. U gonna tell me hiphop heads respect Rozay or Wayne Pen game like that??? GTFOH with that.

 

[Bigavelli]

lol @ you being a Barca fan and you're from England, bitch go root for a team in the Premier League

I never said i was a fan you clown i said i enjoy watching them and never get bored

 

[Lab Baby]

ROFL at "nigga" sold millions and didn't have to go back. Of course he did. When you sell records and make money, eventually you want something that can't be purchased. Respect of the people. The same people you disrespected. This ploy was no different than eminem wearing durags. He'll never get waves, so why wear it? Oh, to somehow show blacks that despite your complete white music,awkwardness, behavior you'll still somehow relate to blacks. 50 cent,d12,durags, trick trick, I mean the proof is staring directly at you people.

You can only buy so much respect. About the same reason Jay can't go back to Marcy, and a lot of your favorite rappers can't step on their block without gettin checked by some young punk. Em was strollin in Detroit with Anderson Cooper for dolo... nigga couldve gotten caught right there, fuck some rap shit. Niggas don't give a fuck... they would clip off Em just for rep if niggas didn't respect him. Don't think buyin niggas off is as easy as you think.

 

[nujerz84]

You can only buy so much respect. About the same reason Jay can't go back to Marcy, and a lot of your favorite rappers can't step on their block without gettin checked by some young punk. Em was strollin in Detroit with Anderson Cooper for dolo... nigga couldve gotten caught right there, fuck some rap shit. Niggas don't give a fuck... they would clip off Em just for rep if niggas didn't respect him. Don't think buyin niggas off is as easy as you think.

Em had lot of security though....bad example... BUt yeah Em has helped put on lots of people from Detroit probrably more so than most solo MC did for there hometown.

 

[Lab Baby]

Em had lot of security though....bad example... BUt yeah Em has helped put on lots of people from Detroit probrably more so than most solo MC did for there hometown.

They wasn't mad up on him tho... but I see your point. And it's not like he can't do that... niggas know who he is.

 

[Bigavelli]

You can only buy so much respect. About the same reason Jay can't go back to Marcy, and a lot of your favorite rappers can't step on their block without gettin checked by some young punk. Em was strollin in Detroit with Anderson Cooper for dolo... nigga couldve gotten caught right there, fuck some rap shit. Niggas don't give a fuck... they would clip off Em just for rep if niggas didn't respect him. Don't think buyin niggas off is as easy as you think.

Yeah and unlike so many Artists in history who got their chain snatched Eminem has never ever been robbed in his career and to this day Eminem goes back to his old hoods he grew up in Detroit like 7 Mile and gets no problems what so ever

The only time you see Eminem get hate is on the IC in the real world Eminem is loved and respected so much even by people who aren't fans

 

[gee757]

ROFL at "nigga" sold millions and didn't have to go back. Of course he did. When you sell records and make money, eventually you want something that can't be purchased. Respect of the people. The same people you disrespected. This ploy was no different than eminem wearing durags. He'll never get waves, so why wear it? Oh, to somehow show blacks that despite your complete white music,awkwardness, behavior you'll still somehow relate to blacks. 50 cent,d12,durags, trick trick, I mean the proof is staring directly at you people.

im so glad ja rule check;d that cracka fa rockin a DU RAG cuz that cracka will neva understand BLK PAIN!

I just name some of them.. Fact u dismiss losing to JUice is the finals in Overtime (duded dint get ate up as u claim) is laughable considering JUICE is perhaps the 1 of the greatest freestyle MC's of all time I probably forgot to mention rocking the Lyricist Lounge Tours, Duck Down Records wanting to sign dude off those appearances.... Dude opened Up for Big Pun, Wu Tang Clan and others when he was underground, how the hell u think he generated any buzz in the firstplace u dismissing his whole underground work is funny... More than anyother rapper in the game right now Em helped make Freestyle Battles Popular no coincedence after 8 Mile Blew up the popularity of URL, Smack, even Freestyle Friday grew big time and he still host battles from time to time n the D.

Dude did shows sharing the same stage as WuTang, Nas and KRS both before and after "racist tapes" show I just shitted on your point with The Rock The Bells Shit.

As an MC even if they dont fuck with the music EM earned his props and respect as skilled MC. U gonna tell me hiphop heads respect Rozay or Wayne Pen game like that??? GTFOH with that.

u give that racist cracka 2 much credit GTFOH feminem will neva b REAL HIPHOP cuz hez a CRACKA!

Yeah and unlike so many Artists in history who got their chain snatched Eminem has never ever been robbed in his career and to this day Eminem goes back to his old hoods he grew up in Detroit like 7 Mile and gets no problems what so ever

The only time you see Eminem get hate is on the IC in the real world Eminem is loved and respected so much even by people who aren't fans

feminem is PUSSY that bitch need'd da CIA fa protection 2 go back 2 his old home n da D on 60minutez!

 

[nujerz84]

They wasn't mad up on him tho... but I see your point. And it's not like he can't do that... niggas know who he is.

Security cleared the area and they had to reshoot that scene couple times for security reasons...

 

[Bigavelli]

Em had lot of security though....bad example... BUt yeah Em has helped put on lots of people from Detroit probrably more so than most solo MC did for there hometown.

Every Artist has security there is not a succesful Recording Artist that has a fan base and some level of success in the Music industry that does not have security

 

[nujerz84]

im so glad ja rule check;d that cracka fa rockin a DU RAG cuz that cracka will neva understand BLK PAIN!

u give that racist cracka 2 much credit GTFOH feminem will neva b REAL HIPHOP cuz hez a CRACKA!

But everything I said in that post is true so you resort to same ole shit that u always do...

 

[gee757]

But everything I said in that post is true so you resort to same ole shit that u always do...

NO itz not wat im sayin is a FACT feminem is will neva b REAL HIPHOP HIP POP yes HIPHOP no!

 

[Who Cares???]

I just name some of them.. Fact u dismiss losing to JUice is the finals in Overtime (duded dint get ate up as u claim) is laughable considering JUICE is perhaps the 1 of the greatest freestyle MC's of all time I probably forgot to mention rocking the Lyricist Lounge Tours, Duck Down Records wanting to sign dude off those appearances.... Dude opened Up for Big Pun, Wu Tang Clan and others when he was underground, how the hell u think he generated any buzz in the firstplace u dismissing his whole underground work is funny... More than anyother rapper in the game right now Em helped make Freestyle Battles Popular no coincedence after 8 Mile Blew up the popularity of URL, Smack, even Freestyle Friday grew big time and he still host battles from time to time n the D.

Dude did shows sharing the same stage as WuTang, Nas and KRS both before and after "racist tapes" show I just shitted on your point with The Rock The Bells Shit.

As an MC even if they dont fuck with the music EM earned his props and respect as skilled MC. U gonna tell me hiphop heads respect Rozay or Wayne Pen game like that??? GTFOH with that.

Yet, you're still missing the point. What has he done in the last 12 years since he had a major deal? You must be out your mind if you think that garbage ass mile movie helped battle rapping in any way shape or form. Battle rapping has ALWAYS been a key ingredient in hip hop. Is this a joke? You acting as if he had a 50 cent buzz prior to Dre carrying him into the game. Fact is, the core hip hop audience does prefer Ross over eminem. Thats why Ross music gets more play in hip hop clubs, on hip hop radio stations and in communities that are hip hop heavy. When the hell did has eminem ever performed at a predominately black venue? His white audience is what allows him to perform at venues sharing that same stage as Wu, Nas and KRS. H esure as hell as sharing the stage with them when they perform at any predominately black venues. Fact is, Interscope can feed you people this eminem struggle story all day long. However, the core of hip hop is not buying it. Just like they dont buy his cds,concert tickets or anything else he selling.

 

[lastdragon55]

Sorry my dude, but I'm not buying it. Why would the underground pay homage to eminem in 2011? What has he done in the last 15 years in regards to the underground hip hop scene? You're naming stuff he may have partaken in, but what was his impact in those regards to earn anybody's respect? Like you think people who were involved in the Rap Olympics (during the time he participated and got his ass ate up) respect him now knowing that while he was trying to infiltrate black culture he was "secretly" disrespecting it at the same time? The Rock the Bells shit had me laughing. Picture this. Raekwon goes on and does him. Followed by Nas. Followed by KRS. Then Eminem. What is he going to perform? The Real Slim Shady? Ass Like That? Kim? My Fault? Reality is regardless of his few past endeavors, eminem chose his path. His path consisted of pop music that has absolutely no lasting effect. Notice how when respectable hip hop outlets mention hip hop albums of greatness, an eminem project is rarely mentioned. The crazy part is, for as below average as eminem catalog is, imagine how much worse it would be if he didnt have the greatest producer ever at his disposal? Hmm..

Sorry...but I think you're basing this off your opinion, not fact. But, that's what happens on message boards. Plus, Jim Jones is in your AVI.

 

[Who Cares???]

You can only buy so much respect. About the same reason Jay can't go back to Marcy, and a lot of your favorite rappers can't step on their block without gettin checked by some young punk. Em was strollin in Detroit with Anderson Cooper for dolo... nigga couldve gotten caught right there, fuck some rap shit. Niggas don't give a fuck... they would clip off Em just for rep if niggas didn't respect him. Don't think buyin niggas off is as easy as you think.

This can't be real? Him and Anderson Copper for dolo huh? Quick question, did you see the camera man? I bet you didn't. Just like you didn't see the gang of security. You can't be this naive. Jay can't go to marcy, but eminem can stroll down detroit with his cracka comrade. For dolo. Negro please.

 

[Lab Baby]

For niggas sayin Em will never get hip hop respect...

[video=youtube;giBI2tbO6b8]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=giBI2tbO6b8[/video]

[video=youtube;lEo-EpJ4oJs]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lEo-EpJ4oJs[/video]

[video=youtube;948CdlbUd0c]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=948CdlbUd0c[/video]

Anyone who knows who Boo Ya Tribe is knows what time it is

[video=youtube;-8QySsmwaaM]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-8QySsmwaaM[/video]

^^^^^during the 50 beef

 

[integra83]

Fuck Benzino, i went out and bought that bullshit Made Men album based on the 4 mic rating it got from an "independent" writer. The source used to be the go to mag, i remember when it used to be longer than 54 pages and i'd read it front to back. I understand Benzino's mission or whatever you want to call it, but he shouldn't have abused his power at the source to do it. Not only did he ruin it for himself, but for everyone else who supported the source. So no it wasn't worth it.

And smh at these threads always leading back to eminem. I don't like Eminem but lets be honest, Benzino was wack before the beef, during the beef and after the beef.

 

[Bigavelli]

Eminem performed in Brixton (most famous ghetto in Europe) in 2000 got mad love from a predominantly black crowd

2004 Nas performd in Brixton and someone fired shots at Nas from the crowd and Nas had to be escorted of stage

Look all this up if you don't believe me examples like this are why i say there is a huge difference between the real world and the IC

I stand by ever comment i make cos it's the truth the truth always matters outside the IC in the real world i never heard anyone mention the Foolish Pride thing ever, i never heard anyone ever mention him being Technical i never ever heard anyone mention him being an MC

the simple reasons i heard why people like Eminem in the real world the typical answer i seen is cos they like whgat he saying in his Music speaking on real life struggles real life like pain and experiences and love the emotion behind it that is an answer i seen from every person that likes Eminem in the real world not saying it's the only reason but a main factor

So that's why i feel it's such a major difference between blog and real life

I can shut down haters with ease too go on Facebook and see what Eminem Songs are posted 9 times outta 10 you will see Songs like Superman, Not Afraid and Mockingbird over some ransom Songs talked about on here

I respect there is Back Pack fans who are non sociable get no pussy have a sad life saying no names listen to shock value but the fact is you are in the minority

 

[Lab Baby]

This can't be real? Him and Anderson Copper for dolo huh? Quick question, did you see the camera man? I bet you didn't. Just like you didn't see the gang of security. You can't be this naive. Jay can't go to marcy, but eminem can stroll down detroit with his cracka comrade. For dolo. Negro please.

You get what I'm saying. Big and Pac got popped in high profile events. Em couldve gotten caught. You think niggas give a fuck about security?

 

[nujerz84]

Yet, you're still missing the point. What has he done in the last 12 years since he had a major deal? You must be out your mind if you think that garbage ass mile movie helped battle rapping in any way shape or form. Battle rapping has ALWAYS been a key ingredient in hip hop. Is this a joke? You acting as if he had a 50 cent buzz prior to Dre carrying him into the game. Fact is, the core hip hop audience does prefer Ross over eminem. Thats why Ross music gets more play in hip hop clubs, on hip hop radio stations and in communities that are hip hop heavy. When the hell did has eminem ever performed at a predominately black venue? His white audience is what allows him to perform at venues sharing that same stage as Wu, Nas and KRS. H esure as hell as sharing the stage with them when they perform at any predominately black venues. Fact is, Interscope can feed you people this eminem struggle story all day long. However, the core of hip hop is not buying it. Just like they dont buy his cds,concert tickets or anything else he selling.

Battle rapping always been apart of hip hop but it was never mainstream it was always regulated to open mics, corner cyphers or underground tournaments or did you miss that point I made....8 Mile along with 106 and Park helped make it Mainstream.... He had a buzz (tell me where I said it was close to 50 Cent Level I didnt) on the underground from doing college shows rocking at Wake Up Show and Lyricist Lounge how u think he was offered a deal from Duck Down, Rawkus and other Underground labels??

The Core Mainstreeam Audience that get there music from Hot 97 prolly does prefer Drake, Nikki, Ross, Wayne Etc to me there not hiphop heads or true hiphop fans.

Just the simple fact Em still hosting Battles in the D... signing 4 popular underground MC's based on there lyrical ability aint nothing? Summer Jam, Spring BLing aint predomitdmly black venues? The Lyricist Lounge, Opening Up for Pun, Wu Tang the crowds werent mainly black? U clearly have no clue what u talking about.

From his Peers as an MC.. Em gets his props even from those he beefing with...Shit Recovery got better or same ratings from the same hiphop mags and websites as Teflon DOn did something that people ignore.

 

[Lab Baby]

Fuck Benzino, i went out and bought that bullshit Made Men album based on the 4 mic rating it got from an "independent" writer. The source used to be the go to mag, i remember when it used to be longer than 54 pages and i'd read it front to back. I understand Benzino's mission or whatever you want to call it, but he shouldn't have abused his power at the source to do it. Not only did he ruin it for himself, but for everyone else who supported the source. So no it wasn't worth it.

And smh at these threads always leading back to eminem. I don't like Eminem but lets be honest, Benzino was wack before the beef, during the beef and after the beef.

Look who made the thread. It was bound to happen.

But yeah, I haven't bought a Source in years... I think when Snoop and someone else (I think DPG) was on the cover. I read that shit, and I swear to God the ink rubbed off on my fingers. That shit mad fell off... and like I said, they gave Lil Kim 5 mics just cuz she dissed 50.