Was God a Volcano? Moses makes him seem that way!

[ThaChozenWun]

There are corroborations between the way ancient Mesopotamian laws and contracts were drawn up and the way the Hebrew law was drawn up, but the monotheistic approach was unique for its time.

It's an interesting theory, I got to say.

Yea I agree with the first part, that's why I didn't say it was taken directly from older times but were inspired by or products of Sumerian laws. They didn't copy them word for word or anything like that, but the general idea of each law was made way beforehand.

 

[Skeratch]

Yea I agree with the first part, that's why I didn't say it was taken directly from older times but were inspired by or products of Sumerian laws. They didn't copy them word for word or anything like that, but the general idea of each law was made way beforehand.

I might look into this more some time.

 

[djparamnesia]

It can all be exsplained well like this, its all bullshit, the bible is a fairytale book, its just a rip off from religions before it and it all started with sun worship, no need over analyzing these things, its all a load of bollocks and you dont need a book to live a good live, you should have morals and understand what is right and wrong anyway and if you need a book to do that then maybe you should seek psychiatric help.

 

[VIBE]

No similitude

Only a voice

Neither words nor form were similar to his, meaning he saw nothing, and he only heard a sound but no real words

Can you not understand how much that doesn't make sense though? "You heard the sound of words, but you saw no form--only a voice"

1. How can you hear the sound of words but then say no words were spoken? That doesn't make sense. If you didn't hear words, how do you know what they were in the first place? Not only that, he came down with the word of God. Tell me how then? If there was no words, how was that possible? Stop ducking this question.

2. You saw no form, which is right. God was never seen in full form.

3. only a voice, which is what he heard WITH words.

My point is how that man read it, he made it seem like the bible said NO WORDS. In which the bible doesn't say.

Def. of similitude:

1. Similarity; resemblance. See Synonyms at likeness.

2. a. One closely resembling another; a counterpart.

b. A perceptible likeness.

Explains more so of something like a "form" something physical.

If you can point out to me there was no words I'd appreciate it. You've failed to do so though, and your guy you posted fails to read correctly. How about you re-watch the video and tell me what he says. Then look up the verse and tell me what it says.

 

[ThaChozenWun]

Can you not understand how much that doesn't make sense though? "You heard the sound of words, but you saw no form--only a voice"

1. How can you hear the sound of words but then say no words were spoken? That doesn't make sense. If you didn't hear words, how do you know what they were in the first place? Not only that, he came down with the word of God. Tell me how then? If there was no words, how was that possible? Stop ducking this question.

2. You saw no form, which is right. God was never seen in full form.

3. only a voice, which is what he heard WITH words.

My point is how that man read it, he made it seem like the bible said NO WORDS. In which the bible doesn't say.

Def. of similitude:

1. Similarity; resemblance. See Synonyms at likeness.
2. a. One closely resembling another; a counterpart.
b. A perceptible likeness.

Explains more so of something like a "form" something physical.

If you can point out to me there was no words I'd appreciate it. You've failed to do so though, and your guy you posted fails to read correctly. How about you re-watch the video and tell me what he says. Then look up the verse and tell me what it says.

You heard the sound of words, not words. That was simply a sound he thought was a voice. No words.

 

[BiblicalAtheist]

So would that kind of be like hearing someone talking from another room, and you hear the voice of the words being spoken, but you don't actually hear the individual words themselves?

 

[ThaChozenWun]

So would that kind of be like hearing someone talking from another room, and you hear the voice of the words being spoken, but you don't actually hear the individual words themselves?

More like hearing mumbling, you can sort of tell its a human voice but can't make any words out.

 

[VIBE]

You heard the sound of words, not words. That was simply a sound he thought was a voice. No words.

LOL

I still don't see it until I can see a verse that states that. Like I said it makes NO sense because if he didn't hear "words" but "mumbling" then mumbling isn't "words". He states he heard words, a voice. Then repeats what was said to him. How can he not hear words but still say what was said? LOL It makes no sense dude.

 

[ThaChozenWun]

LOL

I still don't see it until I can see a verse that states that. Like I said it makes NO sense because if he didn't hear "words" but "mumbling" then mumbling isn't "words". He states he heard words, a voice. Then repeats what was said to him. How can he not hear words but still say what was said? LOL It makes no sense dude.

LMAO whiteboy, it says he heard the voice of words. Not words. The voice as in the sound.

And i told you, the hebrew bible says it that way.

And he was eating shrooms he repeated what he thought the volcano was growling.

 

[VIBE]

LMAO whiteboy, it says he heard the voice of words. Not words. The voice as in the sound.

And i told you, the hebrew bible says it that way.

And he was eating shrooms he repeated what he thought the volcano was growling.

Now you resort to race? Okay, sure.

You never told me the Hebrew bible says it that way. You also NEVER stated he was eating shrooms, no one did. (taking it as you're not being "sarcastic")

You have no argument anymore. You were trying to tell me that "similitude" was saying that it also meant no words. I corrected that.

Listen, if you cannot show this verse to me then I don't know what else to do with this.

"heard a voice of words" - anyone I've asked says it means he heard words, period. There is NO debate. A sound is different than words. A rumble is different that words. It should say, "he heard a sound" but it DOESN'T. Want to know why? Because it clearly states WORDS in the verse! He heard WORDS!!! How are you reading the same thing I am and stating opposite?? You are very misinformed by this man who is very very lost in scripture.

So, you say it says it in the "Hebrew Bible", okay sure. I looked up 'Hebrew Bible in English' and it came out..

12 And the LORD spoke unto you out of the midst of the fire; ye heard the voice of words, but ye saw no form; only a voice.

The SAME! Gee, I wonder how that happened.

You are lost man, really, you are. Everything that negative you try to toss up or anything that you don't think makes sense you cannot explain, you drop as something 'contridicting' or 'evidence of the bible being false'.

You said that you believe there is a God, so by posting this and fighting me on the fact that it wasn't God himself, that means you're implying there's no God.

 

[ThaChozenWun]

Now you resort to race? Okay, sure.

You never told me the Hebrew bible says it that way. You also NEVER stated he was eating shrooms, no one did. (taking it as you're not being "sarcastic")

You have no argument anymore. You were trying to tell me that "similitude" was saying that it also meant no words. I corrected that.

Listen, if you cannot show this verse to me then I don't know what else to do with this.

"heard a voice of words" - anyone I've asked says it means he heard words, period. There is NO debate. A sound is different than words. A rumble is different that words. It should say, "he heard a sound" but it DOESN'T. Want to know why? Because it clearly states WORDS in the verse! He heard WORDS!!! How are you reading the same thing I am and stating opposite?? You are very misinformed by this man who is very very lost in scripture.

So, you say it says it in the "Hebrew Bible", okay sure. I looked up 'Hebrew Bible in English' and it came out..

12 And the LORD spoke unto you out of the midst of the fire; ye heard the voice of words, but ye saw no form; only a voice.

The SAME! Gee, I wonder how that happened.

You are lost man, really, you are. Everything that negative you try to toss up or anything that you don't think makes sense you cannot explain, you drop as something 'contridicting' or 'evidence of the bible being false'.

You said that you believe there is a God, so by posting this and fighting me on the fact that it wasn't God himself, that means you're implying there's no God.

Whiteboy is your race!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?! WAH WAH WEE WAH I aint know that. I thought you was Caucasian.

I'm implying the biblical version of god is false yes.

Yes I did say that it was from the hebrew bible in the very beginning of our chit chat

and YES! There is proof Moses was using shrooms.

 

[VIBE]

LOL

You're a funny guy. See, I know you're black but I won't use the N word or another word to use to use as your "black term". To me you're Chozen, that's it. I can careless but usually when people aren't winning they resort to humor and race words. Also by posting pictures to try to thwart the topic. Hey, at least you were consistent with it being Moses (supposedly)

 

[ThaChozenWun]

LOL

You're a funny guy. See, I know you're black but I won't use the N word or another word to use to use as your "black term". To me you're Chozen, that's it. I can careless but usually when people aren't winning they resort to humor and race words. Also by posting pictures to try to thwart the topic. Hey, at least you were consistent with it being Moses (supposedly)

You should be able to tell eventually when I want to have a serious debate and when I'm just trying to get under your skin. In this conversation I used about 10% seriousness.

 

[VIBE]

You should be able to tell eventually when I want to have a serious debate and when I'm just trying to get under your skin. In this conversation I used about 10% seriousness.

Not under my skin at all. But why post something up and not be serious? I for one found the video hilarious but when he misread something I wanted to know why. Every time the scripture popped up to what he was reading, I paused it, searched it and read along with him. What I stated was misread you tried to argue that it wasn't, when it fact it was. Then I posted up other versions that say the same exact thing.

Can you show me how he doesn't hear actual words? Because the bible is very clear on everything. I've yet to say, wait, what?

 

[judahxulu]

It can all be exsplained well like this, its all bullshit, the bible is a fairytale book, its just a rip off from religions before it and it all started with sun worship, no need over analyzing these things, its all a load of bollocks and you dont need a book to live a good live, you should have morals and understand what is right and wrong anyway and if you need a book to do that then maybe you should seek psychiatric help.

For real? LOL...Or maybe you just dont know what youre talking about.

 

[ThaChozenWun]

Not under my skin at all. But why post something up and not be serious? I for one found the video hilarious but when he misread something I wanted to know why. Every time the scripture popped up to what he was reading, I paused it, searched it and read along with him. What I stated was misread you tried to argue that it wasn't, when it fact it was. Then I posted up other versions that say the same exact thing.

Can you show me how he doesn't hear actual words? Because the bible is very clear on everything. I've yet to say, wait, what?

The Hebrew bible says it that way, the verses you posted also are saying he heard a voice but no words were in it. You just are trying to assume that the voice of words is saying he heard someone speaking words to him which he didn't.

And up until that point the video was dead on with the explanation.

 

[judahxulu]

The Hebrew bible says it that way, the verses you posted also are saying he heard a voice but no words were in it. You just are trying to assume that the voice of words is saying he heard someone speaking words to him which he didn't.

And up until that point the video was dead on with the explanation.

Man I keep trying to respond to your earler post and they wont let me do it! Fuck it...short version..since it seems you like this area of study i strongly reccomend a couple of links for you. This dude is definitely qualified to say what he says. Not to clear on what his religion is or whether he even has one but I like iit that way when it comes down to getting objective info.

http://michaelsheiser.com/PaleoBabble/

http://www.sitchiniswrong.com/about/about.htm

And heres a better link to Sumerian texts than the one you gave me. Shit was to sketchy on citing specific sources to me...This is the real deal.

http://www-etcsl.orient.ox.ac.uk/

 

[VIBE]

The Hebrew bible says it that way, the verses you posted also are saying he heard a voice but no words were in it. You just are trying to assume that the voice of words is saying he heard someone speaking words to him which he didn't.

And up until that point the video was dead on with the explanation.

God came to Moses as a 'burning bush' so what's your take on that? The bush never spoke to him? It just crackled, hissed and snapped and oh, that's God speaking some strange language that I somehow can interpret?

How does the verses I post say, "heard a voice but no words" ??

 

[judahxulu]

Whiteboy is your race!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?! WAH WAH WEE WAH I aint know that. I thought you was Caucasian.

I'm implying the biblical version of god is false yes.

Yes I did say that it was from the hebrew bible in the very beginning of our chit chat

and YES! There is proof Moses was using shrooms.

If Moses was on shrooms the law would have been much different. Although I have heard the theory that manna was shrooms...I dont think so though. Moses had too much of a temper problem to be a shroom user.

 

[ThaChozenWun]

Man I keep trying to respond to your earler post and they wont let me do it! Fuck it...short version..since it seems you like this area of study i strongly reccomend a couple of links for you. This dude is definitely qualified to say what he says. Not to clear on what his religion is or whether he even has one but I like iit that way when it comes down to getting objective info.

http://michaelsheiser.com/PaleoBabble/

http://www.sitchiniswrong.com/about/about.htm

And heres a better link to Sumerian texts than the one you gave me. Shit was to sketchy on citing specific sources to me...This is the real deal.

http://www-etcsl.orient.ox.ac.uk/

Props on these brother. See the one link is talking about Zecharia Sitchin, I'm as big on the ancient alien theory as I am the Sumerian texts and such I'll be lookin through these til nothing is left to read. And yea mod approval been stopping me on a lot of posts with links, I just post what I type then go to edit and put in the links that way.