Was Fat Joe ever the king of New York???

[Peezy_Jenkins]

he wasnt even close

 

[water ur seeds]

Shout out to @_God_ for voting yes, you got that Terror Squad chain and tattoo fam???

 

[LUClEN]

 

[white715]

This whole thing about the King of New York was just to sell magizines, I never remember that being a thing until that Source cover. No doubt BIG was the man but it was a lot of great rap in NY at the time to, it seems that it's revisionist history to think there ever was one guy lording over the game like that.

It's hard for me to flat out say he was not the King of New York but I think that's because it has been said so much it became fact. The whole idea of a KONY just never seemed right to me especially back then.

 

[Built 4 cuban linx]

NY has 9 kings and they all in the WU

 

[king hassan]

This whole thing about the King of New York was just to sell magizines, I never remember that being a thing until that Source cover. No doubt BIG was the man but it was a lot of great rap in NY at the time to, it seems that it's revisionist history to think there ever was one guy lording over the game like that.

It's hard for me to flat out say he was not the King of New York but I think that's because it has been said so much it became fact. The whole idea of a KONY just never seemed right to me especially back then.

This right here, no rapper has ever been the best, to much great music to say that about anybody, and even the so called greats made some wack ass songs

 

[kingblaze84]

I respect Fat Joe and as someone who lives in the Bronx, I have heard stories about him being a real dude. But he has never been the KONY, at any time. The only rappers who ever got that title and deserved it are Biggie, Jay-Z, and 50. Maybe LL Cool J at one point but I never heard anyone call LL that.

 

[kingblaze84]

48-0

64 to 1 now lol.....never seen a poll so one sided before, in any website....

 

[Tsotsi Cape Town]

I respect Fat Joe and as someone who lives in the Bronx, I have heard stories about him being a real dude. But he has never been the KONY, at any time. The only rappers who ever got that title and deserved it are Biggie, Jay-Z, and 50. Maybe LL Cool J at one point but I never heard anyone call LL that.

No NaS at one point? C'mon bruh...

 

[water ur seeds]

I respect Fat Joe and as someone who lives in the Bronx, I have heard stories about him being a real dude. But he has never been the KONY, at any time. The only rappers who ever got that title and deserved it are Biggie, Jay-Z, and 50. Maybe LL Cool J at one point but I never heard anyone call LL that.

I can agree with that, I think LL did have the crown for awhile too... Caz started off the OG king imo, Rakim & BDK battled it out for a while, G Rap must of been in for a shout at it too, G Rap is in my top 5 all day long but with so much talent around in the 80s its hard for anyone to really be the only K.O.N.Y...

 

[And_So_It_Burns]

GOAT MC >>> KONY

Being the greatest is timeless while, according to the IC, the KONY title can change on a year basis, anyway. There was always someone better than Joe, even in his camp

 

[Cabana_Da_Don]

Just go to the Bronx and ask if Joe is not that nigga.

 

[Mr 202]

Just go to the Bronx and ask if Joe is not that nigga.

Thread is not about been that nigga my nigga.....

 

[Delphas]

73-3? That's a college football score.

And smh at voting yes, but not posting to state why. Those fuckers should get a wack on they next post on gp.

 

[Cabana_Da_Don]

Yes Joe for a while was the king of NY.Shit nigga had numerous jams and was put on by KRS-1

 

[S2J]

Lol @ DMX King of New York lol

Yall not really understanding man. Its not just

'most popluar nigga from NY'. As hige as X (and Ja Rule) were, no, just no

And if your 'reign' is over in a year nigga u was not no king

Big, bc he came up with the idea

Jay bc he Jay

Nas by default after Ether but he was never built for that lane

50 stopped bein respected and was also never really respected internally

Im still standing by Big and Jay the only ever kings of NY

If the title really mean something you dont HAVE to award the shit arbitrarily. Niggas naming kings bc they held down a summer...

Bobby Shmurda was King of NY summer '14...

Maino was King of NY when Hi Hater dropped

 

[water ur seeds]

Lol @ DMX King of New York lol

Yall not really understanding man. Its not just

'most popluar nigga from NY'. As hige as X (and Ja Rule) were, no, just no

And if your 'reign' is over in a year nigga u was not no king

Big, bc he came up with the idea

Jay bc he Jay

Nas by default after Ether but he was never built for that lane

50 stopped bein respected and was also never really respected internally

Im still standing by Big and Jay the only ever kings of NY

If the title really mean something you dont HAVE to award the shit arbitrarily. Niggas naming kings bc they held down a summer...

Bobby Shmurda was King of NY summer '14...

Maino was King of NY when Hi Hater dropped

He went plat twice in one year, which is still a record I believe??? He was sold 6million TWICE in 98, then another 6mil in 99... He was also the main face of Ruff Ryders which was one helleva movement, dude was in big movies, he was popular in the streets and commercially... He was king in 97 and 99 without a doubt...

 

[Javon803]

At the time though Nas and Jay were at 'war', they were fighting to be Kings in and around after BIG past, so they wernt really the K.O.N.Y, who was???... 50 was on the come up during that time frame, he wore the crown for a while eventually no doubt... But is it really inconceivable to say Joe BRIEFLY had the crown???

Nas I dont think really ever was K.O.N.Y, regarding them shoes 'he tried them, wore them, wasnt a perfect fit so he couldnt sport them' No doubt Jay a few years AFTER became the king, mainly through business and Kanye...

Someone make a timeline from 1997 on...

97 - Biggie

98 - DMX

99 - Jay Z

00 - Jay Z

01 - Ja Rule

02 - Nas

03 - 50 Cent

04 - 50 Cent

05 - 50 Cent

Who you got for 95 & 96?

I got...

95-BIGGIE

96-NAS(Granted Fugees out sold him but they from Jersey)

And would you still count record sales as a priority in being KONY in today's climate and rather it be based more on quality?

Nas was king of NY when biggie was alive???? "Niggas think I signed with Hov to stay close to the throne" Jadakiss. Big was the only true king of NY The closest person is Jay..... It's more than record sales, you gotta be goat level on the mic,you gotta have both street and mainstream appeal.new Yorkers gotta love you plus since New Yorkers love money you gotta also have money and power to be the KONY...50 had the money and run but falls short on the mic game and according to kiss, he lives in Connecticut.

while Jada is great on the mic, he doesn't have the NY following,he doesn't have that one album,Nas while one of the goat MCs is always owing the IRS and on child support,diddy is not a rapper,Jay for me is the king because he is good in every category plus he has a real Queen for a wife and New Yorkers love him more than anybody since Big

No offense but jay is much bigger than ny now he would probably ice grill you came at him taking bout some king of ny lol he on a whole nother level

 

[Brother_Five]

fuck no and fuck u for even insinuating such a thing...

 

[TayGettem]

fat joe was a good all around rapper who was affiliated with slightly overrated legends that hip hop heads are in love with, but king? fuck no, he never really had that much impact commercially either. imo jada has a more solid claim to top 5 dead or alive than joe ever would to king

5. Most importantly, he has multiple gold and platinum albums...

No he doesn't, he only has 1 gold album and 1 plat album out of 10 albums

JOSE was multi plat... MULTI Platinum... As a solo artist he has sold over 3million records in his career...

so basically jose sold all 3 million?

No one was saying he was top5 doa, it was a was he holding the crown for a moment in time... Another online source says Joe has sold over 4million records, so I dont think anyone knows his sales...

Cot damn at nobody voting yes

Waterurseeds voted No and he's in here arguing for Joe, LOL

Haha yeah like I said I dont think he ever was, but he was commercially popping at one point (before the 50 beef) so thought it was worth discussing...

Wait u made the thread abt Joe being king....no one thinks his king not even u.....yet u arguing for him like he was a contender?