Was Fat Joe ever the king of New York???

[PapaDoc223]

Nope. Plus alot of Puerto Ricans and Dominicans I knew growing up in Sunset Park didnt like Joe. They love Pun and Tru Lyfe but hate Joe cuz they say he didnt take care of Puns family and bit of Big Pun. I never seen a Rican Fat Joe fan.

 

[texasdaking88]

Fuckkkkkkkkkkkkk no

 

[king hassan]

Being part on the D.I.T.C. crew Andre the Giant was much better, but somehow he got the shine

That was only part of the point though, Big L was better than everyone... But he was part of that crew is the point, then went on and carved out a massive career for himself after, found Pun who became the first Latin rapper to go plat, Pun died and he still went on to get stronger from a solo standpoint and had platinum albums and singles, thats some King schitt right???

I just call it right place right time, luck of the draw

Right place at the right time for a big single or maybe one album (one hit wonder)... But to do it few times over isnt luck, and to be in hip hop for nearly 25 years, a quarter of a century isnt luck, he has skills... As I said I dont think he ever was K.O.N.Y, but he underrated for sure...

It's a lot of rappers way better than Fat Joe been in the game over 25 years, just luck, right time and right place and label push

 

[water ur seeds]

Nope. Plus alot of Puerto Ricans and Dominicans I knew growing up in Sunset Park didnt like Joe. They love Pun and Tru Lyfe but hate Joe cuz they say he didnt take care of Puns family and bit of Big Pun. I never seen a Rican Fat Joe fan.

That isnt the point though, regardless of how he treated Pun's fam (whether that was bullschitt or not) his skills as a rapper are underrated, and CEO for that matter...

Being part on the D.I.T.C. crew Andre the Giant was much better, but somehow he got the shine

That was only part of the point though, Big L was better than everyone... But he was part of that crew is the point, then went on and carved out a massive career for himself after, found Pun who became the first Latin rapper to go plat, Pun died and he still went on to get stronger from a solo standpoint and had platinum albums and singles, thats some King schitt right???

I just call it right place right time, luck of the draw

Right place at the right time for a big single or maybe one album (one hit wonder)... But to do it few times over isnt luck, and to be in hip hop for nearly 25 years, a quarter of a century isnt luck, he has skills... As I said I dont think he ever was K.O.N.Y, but he underrated for sure...

It's a lot of rappers way better than Fat Joe been in the game over 25 years, just luck, right time and right place and label push

Nah I cant agree with you there, like I said you cant be in the right place at the right time for 25 years...

He has a talent as a CEO as well as a rapper, daum near every artists on his label was dope too, Remy Ma, Prospect, Charlie Hustle etc

 

[PapaDoc223]

I will say this Terror Squad had the potential to reach G-Unit/Murder INC status but missed alot of opportunities. Terro Squad is on of thos hip hop what ifs. The Don Cartegana Album is dope i have 2 tracks. The Hidden Hand and Triplets.

 

[5th Letter]

You could make the argument that in the summer of 2004 he was king.

 

[_Goldie_]

Nah 50 was still that dude

 

[saracenwire]

Jay-z and Nas share 01. Their beef was the second biggest story in music period that year(after the Strokes), and Both albums went double platinum, with the Blueprint being widely regarded as a masterpiece.

 

[hiphop12345]

At the time though Nas and Jay were at 'war', they were fighting to be Kings in and around after BIG past, so they wernt really the K.O.N.Y, who was???... 50 was on the come up during that time frame, he wore the crown for a while eventually no doubt... But is it really inconceivable to say Joe BRIEFLY had the crown???

Nas I dont think really ever was K.O.N.Y, regarding them shoes 'he tried them, wore them, wasnt a perfect fit so he couldnt sport them' No doubt Jay a few years AFTER became the king, mainly through business and Kanye...

Someone make a timeline from 1997 on...

97 - Biggie

98 - DMX

99 - Jay Z

00 - Jay Z

01 - Ja Rule

02 - Nas

03 - 50 Cent

04 - 50 Cent

05 - 50 Cent

I don't think anybody was relevant after 05. I mean, there weren't any mainstream rappers from New York that were at the top. The South had taken over after G Unit fell from the top.

Also, DJ Kay Slay deserves a mention. I was copping Kay Slay tapes(CD-Rs) from 125th St. between 02-04. I swear he was dropping one or two mix tapes per week. I'm not lying when I tell you he was getting stuff before the internet and when the songs/freestyles finally appeared on the internet Kay Slay was screaming all over the track.

Kay Slay had a series of mix tapes called The Drama Hour, not to be confused with his radio show on Hot 97. I think there were at least 9 volumes. They came out in between August and October of 2003, right around the time Beg For Mercy and the Black Album dropped. I remember because he had songs from those albums before the album's came out. There were a lot of Papoose and Saigon freestyles too.

Nas got the crown in 96.

 

[S2J]

Reaching attempt at revisionist history

He was maybe a jack, a 8 of hearts or sum shit but foh w/ king.

 

[S2J]

97 - Biggie

98 - DMX

99 - Jay Z

00 - Jay Z

01 - Ja Rule

02 - Nas

03 - 50 Cent

04 - 50 Cent

05 - 50 Cent

Wildly inaccurate simply bc

1) Its pretty hard to name 1 king based on a 1year snapshot, and

2)Jay never relinquished king status til he retired. Jay z ws KONY for only TWO years? ?? Cmon

 

[whoseworldisthis]

we have to take into account also that Fat Joe doesn't write his own rhymes...

his string of ghostwriters is well documented (Big Pun of course being his most famous ghostwriter)

 

[Delphas]

I think this is one of the first unanimous polls I've ever seen.

Fat Joe couldn't even get to be Duke of Miami, much less KONY.

 

[Mr 202]

At the time though Nas and Jay were at 'war', they were fighting to be Kings in and around after BIG past, so they wernt really the K.O.N.Y, who was???... 50 was on the come up during that time frame, he wore the crown for a while eventually no doubt... But is it really inconceivable to say Joe BRIEFLY had the crown???

Nas I dont think really ever was K.O.N.Y, regarding them shoes 'he tried them, wore them, wasnt a perfect fit so he couldnt sport them' No doubt Jay a few years AFTER became the king, mainly through business and Kanye...

Someone make a timeline from 1997 on...

97 - Biggie

98 - DMX

99 - Jay Z

00 - Jay Z

01 - Ja Rule

02 - Nas

03 - 50 Cent

04 - 50 Cent

05 - 50 Cent

Who you got for 95 & 96?

I got...

95-BIGGIE

96-NAS(Granted Fugees out sold him but they from Jersey)

And would you still count record sales as a priority in being KONY in today's climate and rather it be based more on quality?

Nas was king of NY when biggie was alive???? "Niggas think I signed with Hov to stay close to the throne" Jadakiss. Big was the only true king of NY The closest person is Jay..... It's more than record sales, you gotta be goat level on the mic,you gotta have both street and mainstream appeal.new Yorkers gotta love you plus since New Yorkers love money you gotta also have money and power to be the KONY...50 had the money and run but falls short on the mic game and according to kiss, he lives in Connecticut.

while Jada is great on the mic, he doesn't have the NY following,he doesn't have that one album,Nas while one of the goat MCs is always owing the IRS and on child support,diddy is not a rapper,Jay for me is the king because he is good in every category plus he has a real Queen for a wife and New Yorkers love him more than anybody since Big

 

[S2J]

^^^cosign beig more than about sales. If u name Ja Rule u dont get what bein king means

 

[S2J]

Only kings were Big and Jay tbh

And maybe Nas when Illmatic, and after Ether

After Ether only for a sec b Jay bounced back and his entire brand skyrocketed aftr that Excuse Me Miss video. He became grown man boss Jay, while Nas made more underground type music

And before u say it, quality of music even isnt the biggest requirement for king of NY bc obviously no one would say Q Tip ws KONY when Tribe was dropping 5 mic albums left n right

King of NY is...iys just an,unwritten understating, he NY guy thats the globally respected leader of rap

 

[grYmes]

5. Most importantly, he has multiple gold and platinum albums...

No he doesn't, he only has 1 gold album and 1 plat album out of 10 albums

JOSE was multi plat... MULTI Platinum... As a solo artist he has sold over 3million records in his career...

Yea, if you add up all 10 albums... He only has ONE Platinum album. Your record sales logic is a little fuckered up. We know damn well album sales don't equal to be the king of anything. If that's the case Ja Rule was the king at a time & that's a lie. Joe never did anything to justify that status or even the status of a great MC for that matter. Always followed trends & never came with shit that was genuine. Once Pun died it seems Joe gave up on trying to be somewhat lyrical & tired his best next decade to get radio play with some degrees of success, but no one up on hip hop at that time would take him seriously as king of anything.

 

[DOPEdweebz]

He was never the king but the IC always disrespected that nigga for whatever reason when all he has done is put out quality music. Niggas that do NOTHING with their lives always gotta hate on a man doing better. Plus Fat Joe got some real life shit dealing with Puns fam and his own. He sorta got a bad rep for fhe Cuban Lynx shit and Puns baby moms but it what it is.

 

[sapp08_2001]

I will say this Terror Squad had the potential to reach G-Unit/Murder INC status but missed alot of opportunities. Terro Squad is on of thos hip hop what ifs. The Don Cartegana Album is dope i have 2 tracks. The Hidden Hand and Triplets.

That terror squad album was ass tho

 

[Billy_Poncho]

He is on Def Jam FFNY tho