Video Released Of Oklahoma RB Joe Mixon Punching A Chick (Self Defense ?)

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D. Morgan;c-9558750 said:
blackrain;c-9557911 said:
D. Morgan;c-9557438 said:
blackrain;c-9557430 said:
7figz;c-9557249 said:
Another example.

If you walk up to a professional boxer in the street and hit him, what do you think will happen ?

You think that MF is going to say "Hold on, this guy isn't on the same physical fitness level as me, let me dial this punch down before I hit him back" or is he just going punch (as his punches go) and knock you the fuck out ?

You'd have a point if the video doesn't show him walking up to her. That means regardless of what happened outside he took time to go in after she did and walk over to her. He wasn't in any physical danger from that little ass slap from her scrawny ass. Ain't no excuse for either of their actions. Both fucked up he just had more to lose by fucking up so the onus is on him to control his actions better.

That has absolutely nothing to do with what went on.

Actually it does...if that girl had cracked her skull you think "she slapped him first" would be enough to claim self defense? That's what self defense is. When you feel you're truly in danger and have to act accordingly. Once again that scrawny white bitch wasn't putting him in danger.

I never claimed that man was defending himself so you can take that self defense argument elsewhere. That is why it actually doesn't have shit to do with what happened.

Shit was never about self defense which I've been known the legal definition of.

The shit is about a person violating my person. Someone violates me I don't give a fuck what the law says. I'm going to deal with it how I see fit. A person puts their hands on me I will NEVER be on some "oh but the law says I can't do that so let me just leave this situation alone."

Shit ain't about danger or this so called threat level you niggas keep talking about. Its about me being violated and my reaction to that violation. Anything else that happens after that then so be it. I can deal with that LATER after I deal with this person who just violated me.

And that short term thinking process is how people throw away their future....you say deal with it as if you'd just be ok with losing out on millions and having your reputation and character questioned forever just for a 5 second sense of "i showed that bitch". Dealing with something how you see fit in that moment ain't always worth the long term effects it brings. You can try to deny self defense has nothing to do with it all you want but once the court is involved you can't remove that aspect and if you think you just gonna knock a woman out in public and not have to deal with the law in any form, especially if you an athlete, you're just naive as hell
 
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blackrain;c-9558938 said:
D. Morgan;c-9558750 said:
blackrain;c-9557911 said:
D. Morgan;c-9557438 said:
blackrain;c-9557430 said:
7figz;c-9557249 said:
Another example.

If you walk up to a professional boxer in the street and hit him, what do you think will happen ?

You think that MF is going to say "Hold on, this guy isn't on the same physical fitness level as me, let me dial this punch down before I hit him back" or is he just going punch (as his punches go) and knock you the fuck out ?

You'd have a point if the video doesn't show him walking up to her. That means regardless of what happened outside he took time to go in after she did and walk over to her. He wasn't in any physical danger from that little ass slap from her scrawny ass. Ain't no excuse for either of their actions. Both fucked up he just had more to lose by fucking up so the onus is on him to control his actions better.

That has absolutely nothing to do with what went on.

Actually it does...if that girl had cracked her skull you think "she slapped him first" would be enough to claim self defense? That's what self defense is. When you feel you're truly in danger and have to act accordingly. Once again that scrawny white bitch wasn't putting him in danger.

I never claimed that man was defending himself so you can take that self defense argument elsewhere. That is why it actually doesn't have shit to do with what happened.

Shit was never about self defense which I've been known the legal definition of.

The shit is about a person violating my person. Someone violates me I don't give a fuck what the law says. I'm going to deal with it how I see fit. A person puts their hands on me I will NEVER be on some "oh but the law says I can't do that so let me just leave this situation alone."

Shit ain't about danger or this so called threat level you niggas keep talking about. Its about me being violated and my reaction to that violation. Anything else that happens after that then so be it. I can deal with that LATER after I deal with this person who just violated me.

And that short term thinking process is how people throw away their future....you say deal with it as if you'd just be ok with losing out on millions and having your reputation and character questioned forever just for a 5 second sense of "i showed that bitch". Dealing with something how you see fit in that moment ain't always worth the long term effects it brings. You can try to deny self defense has nothing to do with it all you want but once the court is involved you can't remove that aspect and if you think you just gonna knock a woman out in public and not have to deal with the law in any form, especially if you an athlete, you're just naive as hell

Ain't shit short term about it or some as you put "I showed that bitch". Its about you violated me I did something about that violation end of story. Its really that fucking simple. All this other extra shit you want to add on to it means absolutely nothing to me.

Lawrence Philips beat multiple white bitches not hit a bitch back who violated him and was still a 1st round pick who made millions. I'll give you in the end Philips was a complete fuck up but don't mean said player would actually lose their career. If they good enough the NFL will over look damn near anything. Long list of pro athletes who actually did some fucked up shit and still got paid millions. This dude didn't do anything wrong IMO.

Fuck I care about some strangers who don't know me from a can of paint questioning my character and reputation. Those same people do that shit athletes who have never done anything wrong. So move that bullshit along as well.

Never said I wouldn't have to deal with the law. I said I would deal with that shit later cause it ain't some shit I would care about when it comes to a person violating me.

Nobody in this world has to see shit my way. Whatever decision I choose to make in regards to someone violating me I don't give fuck about what the law says. If the choice I make violates the law I can deal with the consequences of that as well.

I'll never choose money over my person.

 
D. Morgan;c-9558957 said:
blackrain;c-9558938 said:
D. Morgan;c-9558750 said:
blackrain;c-9557911 said:
D. Morgan;c-9557438 said:
blackrain;c-9557430 said:
7figz;c-9557249 said:
Another example.

If you walk up to a professional boxer in the street and hit him, what do you think will happen ?

You think that MF is going to say "Hold on, this guy isn't on the same physical fitness level as me, let me dial this punch down before I hit him back" or is he just going punch (as his punches go) and knock you the fuck out ?

You'd have a point if the video doesn't show him walking up to her. That means regardless of what happened outside he took time to go in after she did and walk over to her. He wasn't in any physical danger from that little ass slap from her scrawny ass. Ain't no excuse for either of their actions. Both fucked up he just had more to lose by fucking up so the onus is on him to control his actions better.

That has absolutely nothing to do with what went on.

Actually it does...if that girl had cracked her skull you think "she slapped him first" would be enough to claim self defense? That's what self defense is. When you feel you're truly in danger and have to act accordingly. Once again that scrawny white bitch wasn't putting him in danger.

I never claimed that man was defending himself so you can take that self defense argument elsewhere. That is why it actually doesn't have shit to do with what happened.

Shit was never about self defense which I've been known the legal definition of.

The shit is about a person violating my person. Someone violates me I don't give a fuck what the law says. I'm going to deal with it how I see fit. A person puts their hands on me I will NEVER be on some "oh but the law says I can't do that so let me just leave this situation alone."

Shit ain't about danger or this so called threat level you niggas keep talking about. Its about me being violated and my reaction to that violation. Anything else that happens after that then so be it. I can deal with that LATER after I deal with this person who just violated me.

And that short term thinking process is how people throw away their future....you say deal with it as if you'd just be ok with losing out on millions and having your reputation and character questioned forever just for a 5 second sense of "i showed that bitch". Dealing with something how you see fit in that moment ain't always worth the long term effects it brings. You can try to deny self defense has nothing to do with it all you want but once the court is involved you can't remove that aspect and if you think you just gonna knock a woman out in public and not have to deal with the law in any form, especially if you an athlete, you're just naive as hell

Ain't shit short term about it or some as you put "I showed that bitch". Its about you violated me I did something about that violation end of story. Its really that fucking simple. All this other extra shit you want to add on to it means absolutely nothing to me.

Lawrence Philips beat multiple white bitches not hit a bitch back who violated him and was still a 1st round pick who made millions. I'll give you in the end Philips was a complete fuck up but don't mean said player would actually lose their career. If they good enough the NFL will over look damn near anything. Long list of pro athletes who actually did some fucked up shit and still got paid millions. This dude didn't do anything wrong IMO.

Fuck I care about some strangers who don't know me from a can of paint questioning my character and reputation. Those same people do that shit athletes who have never done anything wrong. So move that bullshit along as well.

Never said I wouldn't have to deal with the law. I said I would deal with that shit later cause it ain't some shit I would care about when it comes to a person violating me.

Nobody in this world has to see shit my way. Whatever decision I choose to make in regards to someone violating me I don't give fuck about what the law says. If the choice I make violates the law I can deal with the consequences of that as well.

I'll never choose money over my person.

Not in this time. You see Greg Hardy out there on the field? Ray Rice? Shit even the Giants kicker got let go and nobody gives a fuck about kickers. It ain't about choosing money it's about making sure you don't throw away your future over 5 seconds of a reaction just to prove "I don't care what anybody thinks." You keep pretending having your future put in jeopardy is something you'd just handle casually...
 
blackrain;c-9559036 said:
D. Morgan;c-9558957 said:
blackrain;c-9558938 said:
D. Morgan;c-9558750 said:
blackrain;c-9557911 said:
D. Morgan;c-9557438 said:
blackrain;c-9557430 said:
7figz;c-9557249 said:
Another example.

If you walk up to a professional boxer in the street and hit him, what do you think will happen ?

You think that MF is going to say "Hold on, this guy isn't on the same physical fitness level as me, let me dial this punch down before I hit him back" or is he just going punch (as his punches go) and knock you the fuck out ?

You'd have a point if the video doesn't show him walking up to her. That means regardless of what happened outside he took time to go in after she did and walk over to her. He wasn't in any physical danger from that little ass slap from her scrawny ass. Ain't no excuse for either of their actions. Both fucked up he just had more to lose by fucking up so the onus is on him to control his actions better.

That has absolutely nothing to do with what went on.

Actually it does...if that girl had cracked her skull you think "she slapped him first" would be enough to claim self defense? That's what self defense is. When you feel you're truly in danger and have to act accordingly. Once again that scrawny white bitch wasn't putting him in danger.

I never claimed that man was defending himself so you can take that self defense argument elsewhere. That is why it actually doesn't have shit to do with what happened.

Shit was never about self defense which I've been known the legal definition of.

The shit is about a person violating my person. Someone violates me I don't give a fuck what the law says. I'm going to deal with it how I see fit. A person puts their hands on me I will NEVER be on some "oh but the law says I can't do that so let me just leave this situation alone."

Shit ain't about danger or this so called threat level you niggas keep talking about. Its about me being violated and my reaction to that violation. Anything else that happens after that then so be it. I can deal with that LATER after I deal with this person who just violated me.

And that short term thinking process is how people throw away their future....you say deal with it as if you'd just be ok with losing out on millions and having your reputation and character questioned forever just for a 5 second sense of "i showed that bitch". Dealing with something how you see fit in that moment ain't always worth the long term effects it brings. You can try to deny self defense has nothing to do with it all you want but once the court is involved you can't remove that aspect and if you think you just gonna knock a woman out in public and not have to deal with the law in any form, especially if you an athlete, you're just naive as hell

Ain't shit short term about it or some as you put "I showed that bitch". Its about you violated me I did something about that violation end of story. Its really that fucking simple. All this other extra shit you want to add on to it means absolutely nothing to me.

Lawrence Philips beat multiple white bitches not hit a bitch back who violated him and was still a 1st round pick who made millions. I'll give you in the end Philips was a complete fuck up but don't mean said player would actually lose their career. If they good enough the NFL will over look damn near anything. Long list of pro athletes who actually did some fucked up shit and still got paid millions. This dude didn't do anything wrong IMO.

Fuck I care about some strangers who don't know me from a can of paint questioning my character and reputation. Those same people do that shit athletes who have never done anything wrong. So move that bullshit along as well.

Never said I wouldn't have to deal with the law. I said I would deal with that shit later cause it ain't some shit I would care about when it comes to a person violating me.

Nobody in this world has to see shit my way. Whatever decision I choose to make in regards to someone violating me I don't give fuck about what the law says. If the choice I make violates the law I can deal with the consequences of that as well.

I'll never choose money over my person.

Not in this time. You see Greg Hardy out there on the field? Ray Rice? Shit even the Giants kicker got let go and nobody gives a fuck about kickers. It ain't about choosing money it's about making sure you don't throw away your future over 5 seconds of a reaction just to prove "I don't care what anybody thinks." You keep pretending having your future put in jeopardy is something you'd just handle casually...

Why is Greg Hardy unemployed? Hint: It's not for domestic violence
http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nfl-s...it-s-not-for-domestic-violence-133920118.html

Ray Rice old stats was already declining. If Ray Rice was in his prime or close to it he would be in the NFL IMO

How many times did he beat his wife? Come on you already know we not talking about serial abusers.

That is how you are taking it. I know the shit I stand on and regardless of future monetary gains I'm not letting someone violate me because of the consequences of how I choose to react to it.

I really don't care what anybody thinks about how I react to something that was done to ME and not them.
 
7figz;c-9557249 said:
Another example.

If you walk up to a professional boxer in the street and hit him, what do you think will happen ?

You think that MF is going to say "Hold on, this guy isn't on the same physical fitness level as me, let me dial this punch down before I hit him back" or is he just going to punch (as his punches go) and knock you the fuck out ?

Uhhh boxers hands are registered as lethal weapons
 
http://www.espn.com/college-footbal...-joe-mixon-told-police-punched-woman-reaction

Sooners' Mixon to police: 'Felt like a dude hit me'

Oklahoma running back Joe Mixon told police in 2014 that "it felt like a dude hit me" when Amelia Molitor slapped him, and that he punched her as a reaction, according to a video The Oklahoman obtained of his interview with police three days after the incident inside a sandwich shop near campus.

In the video, Mixon told police that he heard a racial slur from Molitor's male friend, but not from Molitor. And Mixon admitted that he responded with a homophobic slur at the male friend.

"The gay dude ... he called me something," Mixon said in the video, according to The Oklahoman. "He was like (slur). So then I was like, you got me messed up. And then I called him a (slur). And after that, the girl, she dropped her purse, that's when she came in my face, pushed me, and then my glasses came off, and then, like, I had, like, jumped at her, like, to watch out. And then she came in my face. I put my head down. And she swung on me.

"And after that, like, I was so shocked, because she hit me so hard. It felt like a dude hit me. And after that, like, my face went boom, my reaction was just right there."

On Friday, Mixon's attorneys released two surveillance videos that showed the punch, which fractured four bones in Molitor's face. Mixon was charged with a misdemeanor at the time of the incident, and the university suspended him for the entire 2014 season.

The City of Norman had shielded the surveillance video from the public since the incident, prompting a lawsuit from the Oklahoma Association of Broadcasters. Earlier this month, the Oklahoma Supreme Court ruled in favor of the broadcasters and ordered the City of Norman to release the tape under Oklahoma's Open Records Act. The city had until Dec. 26 to either release the video or file an appeal. In a preemptive move, Mixon's attorneys released the tape. According to The Oklahoman, the release came around the time of Molitor's graduation ceremony at Oklahoma.

In a formal apology issued through his lawyers last month, Mixon suggested racial slurs directed at him initiated the incident.

In the video obtained by The Oklahoman, Norman police detective David Freudiger told Mixon that Molitor's version of events were that Mixon and some of his teammates begin harassing Molitor and her friend, because the friend is gay, and that they went into the sandwich shop to evade the situation.

Mixon told Freudiger that Molitor intentionally blew cigarette smoke in his face and teammate Mark Andrews' face outside the sandwich shop. Mixon said Molitor and Andrews exchanged words and, "after that, the girl, I guess she got scared or what, she went up inside, and she went to talk to the person that I came there with (teammate David Smith), and I guess she knew him or whatever.

"So when she went inside, she was talking about how we were trying to jump her. So that's when the dude (Molitor's friend) went inside, and I followed the dude. That's when I interrupted her and I was talking to Sooner Dave (Smith), talking about how nobody was trying to jump her, we had no problem with her, she was just being disrespectful, you know ... smoking in my face and acting crazy."

In the surveillance video, Mixon turned away, but appeared to say something to Molitor's friend. Molitor pushed Mixon. He lunged at her. She slapped him. Then he punched her, which caused her face to slam back into a table.

"I pretty much had a point in the store where we got into it, and I was like, you know, she being disrespectful, I felt like I should have left it alone," Mixon said. "But then once the dude called me the (slur), I mean, it pretty much got my, you know, thoughts off of the whole situation. That's when it just escalated."

According to The Oklahoman, Mixon said the racial slur was not said to him, but about him. A police interviewer calls that strange, since Smith -- Mixon's teammate, friend and an African-American -- was sitting at the table.

"I mean, even though she pushed me, I didn't think she was going to hit me," Mixon said. "I was so shocked, because she hit me so hard, it felt like really like a dude hit me. And then, like, my face just started ringing. And after that, like, it was just like a reaction."

Mixon left the sandwich shop immediately after the punch. According to The Oklahoman, several of Mixon's Sooner teammates -- including Michiah Quick, Daniel Brooks and Andrews -- followed.

"I just felt, I was like ... what I got myself into?" Mixon said. "And then once I left, I mean, I felt bad. Even though she hit me and it hurt, I mean, it was just like the fact that you know me, you know, being out of character and, you know, putting myself into a certain situation. I just started thinking about the future and everything else."

In 11 games for the Sooners this season, Mixon has rushed for a team-leading 1,183 yards and eight touchdowns. Oklahoma plays Auburn in the Allstate Sugar Bowl on Jan. 2.

Mixon is a third-year sophomore who is eligible for the 2017 NFL draft.

On ability alone, ESPN NFL draft analyst Mel Kiper Jr. ranks Mixon as his fifth-highest-rated running back behind Leonard Fournette, Dalvin Cook, D'Onta Foreman and Christian McCaffrey.
 
Max.;c-9559052 said:
7figz;c-9557249 said:
Another example.

If you walk up to a professional boxer in the street and hit him, what do you think will happen ?

You think that MF is going to say "Hold on, this guy isn't on the same physical fitness level as me, let me dial this punch down before I hit him back" or is he just going to punch (as his punches go) and knock you the fuck out ?

Uhhh boxers hands are registered as lethal weapons

The point is that if somebody is physically stronger than you, what the fuck makes people think they will hit you back with the same force as you hit them.
 
D. Morgan;c-9559050 said:
blackrain;c-9559036 said:
D. Morgan;c-9558957 said:
blackrain;c-9558938 said:
D. Morgan;c-9558750 said:
blackrain;c-9557911 said:
D. Morgan;c-9557438 said:
blackrain;c-9557430 said:
7figz;c-9557249 said:
Another example.

If you walk up to a professional boxer in the street and hit him, what do you think will happen ?

You think that MF is going to say "Hold on, this guy isn't on the same physical fitness level as me, let me dial this punch down before I hit him back" or is he just going punch (as his punches go) and knock you the fuck out ?

You'd have a point if the video doesn't show him walking up to her. That means regardless of what happened outside he took time to go in after she did and walk over to her. He wasn't in any physical danger from that little ass slap from her scrawny ass. Ain't no excuse for either of their actions. Both fucked up he just had more to lose by fucking up so the onus is on him to control his actions better.

That has absolutely nothing to do with what went on.

Actually it does...if that girl had cracked her skull you think "she slapped him first" would be enough to claim self defense? That's what self defense is. When you feel you're truly in danger and have to act accordingly. Once again that scrawny white bitch wasn't putting him in danger.

I never claimed that man was defending himself so you can take that self defense argument elsewhere. That is why it actually doesn't have shit to do with what happened.

Shit was never about self defense which I've been known the legal definition of.

The shit is about a person violating my person. Someone violates me I don't give a fuck what the law says. I'm going to deal with it how I see fit. A person puts their hands on me I will NEVER be on some "oh but the law says I can't do that so let me just leave this situation alone."

Shit ain't about danger or this so called threat level you niggas keep talking about. Its about me being violated and my reaction to that violation. Anything else that happens after that then so be it. I can deal with that LATER after I deal with this person who just violated me.

And that short term thinking process is how people throw away their future....you say deal with it as if you'd just be ok with losing out on millions and having your reputation and character questioned forever just for a 5 second sense of "i showed that bitch". Dealing with something how you see fit in that moment ain't always worth the long term effects it brings. You can try to deny self defense has nothing to do with it all you want but once the court is involved you can't remove that aspect and if you think you just gonna knock a woman out in public and not have to deal with the law in any form, especially if you an athlete, you're just naive as hell

Ain't shit short term about it or some as you put "I showed that bitch". Its about you violated me I did something about that violation end of story. Its really that fucking simple. All this other extra shit you want to add on to it means absolutely nothing to me.

Lawrence Philips beat multiple white bitches not hit a bitch back who violated him and was still a 1st round pick who made millions. I'll give you in the end Philips was a complete fuck up but don't mean said player would actually lose their career. If they good enough the NFL will over look damn near anything. Long list of pro athletes who actually did some fucked up shit and still got paid millions. This dude didn't do anything wrong IMO.

Fuck I care about some strangers who don't know me from a can of paint questioning my character and reputation. Those same people do that shit athletes who have never done anything wrong. So move that bullshit along as well.

Never said I wouldn't have to deal with the law. I said I would deal with that shit later cause it ain't some shit I would care about when it comes to a person violating me.

Nobody in this world has to see shit my way. Whatever decision I choose to make in regards to someone violating me I don't give fuck about what the law says. If the choice I make violates the law I can deal with the consequences of that as well.

I'll never choose money over my person.

Not in this time. You see Greg Hardy out there on the field? Ray Rice? Shit even the Giants kicker got let go and nobody gives a fuck about kickers. It ain't about choosing money it's about making sure you don't throw away your future over 5 seconds of a reaction just to prove "I don't care what anybody thinks." You keep pretending having your future put in jeopardy is something you'd just handle casually...

Why is Greg Hardy unemployed? Hint: It's not for domestic violence
http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nfl-s...it-s-not-for-domestic-violence-133920118.html

Ray Rice old stats was already declining. If Ray Rice was in his prime or close to it he would be in the NFL IMO

How many times did he beat his wife? Come on you already know we not talking about serial abusers.

That is how you are taking it. I know the shit I stand on and regardless of future monetary gains I'm not letting someone violate me because of the consequences of how I choose to react to it.

I really don't care what anybody thinks about how I react to something that was done to ME and not them.

So that 1 article is all the proof as to why he's not in the league? How about all the negative media attention Dallas got last season for signing him, or the fact that conversations about him would dominate any broadcast of games they played? The domestic violence is the reason he's not signed because 99.9% of teams aren't willing to deal with that type of negative public backlash Dallas got, him being an asshole is why the Cowboys let him go. Those 2 aren't mutually exclusive.

Ray Rice's stats were declining but you know damn well he wouldn't be out the league still if not for that video. There's plenty RB's older with injury histories and the same lack of production on a roster right now. You can not care what anybody thinks, but to pretend you don't care about putting your future in jeopardy just makes you sound stupid. Like it's a bad thing to consider how your actions could affect you in the future.
 
blackrain;c-9559180 said:
D. Morgan;c-9559050 said:
blackrain;c-9559036 said:
D. Morgan;c-9558957 said:
blackrain;c-9558938 said:
D. Morgan;c-9558750 said:
blackrain;c-9557911 said:
D. Morgan;c-9557438 said:
blackrain;c-9557430 said:
7figz;c-9557249 said:
Another example.

If you walk up to a professional boxer in the street and hit him, what do you think will happen ?

You think that MF is going to say "Hold on, this guy isn't on the same physical fitness level as me, let me dial this punch down before I hit him back" or is he just going punch (as his punches go) and knock you the fuck out ?

You'd have a point if the video doesn't show him walking up to her. That means regardless of what happened outside he took time to go in after she did and walk over to her. He wasn't in any physical danger from that little ass slap from her scrawny ass. Ain't no excuse for either of their actions. Both fucked up he just had more to lose by fucking up so the onus is on him to control his actions better.

That has absolutely nothing to do with what went on.

Actually it does...if that girl had cracked her skull you think "she slapped him first" would be enough to claim self defense? That's what self defense is. When you feel you're truly in danger and have to act accordingly. Once again that scrawny white bitch wasn't putting him in danger.

I never claimed that man was defending himself so you can take that self defense argument elsewhere. That is why it actually doesn't have shit to do with what happened.

Shit was never about self defense which I've been known the legal definition of.

The shit is about a person violating my person. Someone violates me I don't give a fuck what the law says. I'm going to deal with it how I see fit. A person puts their hands on me I will NEVER be on some "oh but the law says I can't do that so let me just leave this situation alone."

Shit ain't about danger or this so called threat level you niggas keep talking about. Its about me being violated and my reaction to that violation. Anything else that happens after that then so be it. I can deal with that LATER after I deal with this person who just violated me.

And that short term thinking process is how people throw away their future....you say deal with it as if you'd just be ok with losing out on millions and having your reputation and character questioned forever just for a 5 second sense of "i showed that bitch". Dealing with something how you see fit in that moment ain't always worth the long term effects it brings. You can try to deny self defense has nothing to do with it all you want but once the court is involved you can't remove that aspect and if you think you just gonna knock a woman out in public and not have to deal with the law in any form, especially if you an athlete, you're just naive as hell

Ain't shit short term about it or some as you put "I showed that bitch". Its about you violated me I did something about that violation end of story. Its really that fucking simple. All this other extra shit you want to add on to it means absolutely nothing to me.

Lawrence Philips beat multiple white bitches not hit a bitch back who violated him and was still a 1st round pick who made millions. I'll give you in the end Philips was a complete fuck up but don't mean said player would actually lose their career. If they good enough the NFL will over look damn near anything. Long list of pro athletes who actually did some fucked up shit and still got paid millions. This dude didn't do anything wrong IMO.

Fuck I care about some strangers who don't know me from a can of paint questioning my character and reputation. Those same people do that shit athletes who have never done anything wrong. So move that bullshit along as well.

Never said I wouldn't have to deal with the law. I said I would deal with that shit later cause it ain't some shit I would care about when it comes to a person violating me.

Nobody in this world has to see shit my way. Whatever decision I choose to make in regards to someone violating me I don't give fuck about what the law says. If the choice I make violates the law I can deal with the consequences of that as well.

I'll never choose money over my person.

Not in this time. You see Greg Hardy out there on the field? Ray Rice? Shit even the Giants kicker got let go and nobody gives a fuck about kickers. It ain't about choosing money it's about making sure you don't throw away your future over 5 seconds of a reaction just to prove "I don't care what anybody thinks." You keep pretending having your future put in jeopardy is something you'd just handle casually...

Why is Greg Hardy unemployed? Hint: It's not for domestic violence
http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nfl-s...it-s-not-for-domestic-violence-133920118.html

Ray Rice old stats was already declining. If Ray Rice was in his prime or close to it he would be in the NFL IMO

How many times did he beat his wife? Come on you already know we not talking about serial abusers.

That is how you are taking it. I know the shit I stand on and regardless of future monetary gains I'm not letting someone violate me because of the consequences of how I choose to react to it.

I really don't care what anybody thinks about how I react to something that was done to ME and not them.

So that 1 article is all the proof as to why he's not in the league? How about all the negative media attention Dallas got last season for signing him, or the fact that conversations about him would dominate any broadcast of games they played? The domestic violence is the reason he's not signed because 99.9% of teams aren't willing to deal with that type of negative public backlash Dallas got, him being an asshole is why the Cowboys let him go. Those 2 aren't mutually exclusive.

Ray Rice's stats were declining but you know damn well he wouldn't be out the league still if not for that video. There's plenty RB's older with injury histories and the same lack of production on a roster right now. You can not care what anybody thinks, but to pretend you don't care about putting your future in jeopardy just makes you sound stupid. Like it's a bad thing to consider how your actions could affect you in the future.

You keep injecting your personal thoughts into the statements of a complete stranger. I never said I didn't care. I just said I would and could deal with the consequences. That is YOU taking it as if I don't care. I said I don't care about what the law says which is because I don't when it comes to how I deal with a violation committed against ME.

I'm a person who accepts the responsibility of my actions before I do them. So if those consequences of my actions leads me to prison so be it. I can accept that and deal with that. Just cause I ain't willing to bitch and cry and feel like how you do about it don't mean I don't care. It just means I don't make excuses for what I did when I know exactly what I did, why I did it and can and will deal with all of that.

I didn't say that one article was proof it was just an example of that hitting a woman isn't an automatic career ender.

Like I said with that video and all if Ray Rice was still in his prime or close to it he would still be in the league.

You got your opinion and I've got mine.
 
D. Morgan;c-9559205 said:
blackrain;c-9559180 said:
D. Morgan;c-9559050 said:
blackrain;c-9559036 said:
D. Morgan;c-9558957 said:
blackrain;c-9558938 said:
D. Morgan;c-9558750 said:
blackrain;c-9557911 said:
D. Morgan;c-9557438 said:
blackrain;c-9557430 said:
7figz;c-9557249 said:
Another example.

If you walk up to a professional boxer in the street and hit him, what do you think will happen ?

You think that MF is going to say "Hold on, this guy isn't on the same physical fitness level as me, let me dial this punch down before I hit him back" or is he just going punch (as his punches go) and knock you the fuck out ?

You'd have a point if the video doesn't show him walking up to her. That means regardless of what happened outside he took time to go in after she did and walk over to her. He wasn't in any physical danger from that little ass slap from her scrawny ass. Ain't no excuse for either of their actions. Both fucked up he just had more to lose by fucking up so the onus is on him to control his actions better.

That has absolutely nothing to do with what went on.

Actually it does...if that girl had cracked her skull you think "she slapped him first" would be enough to claim self defense? That's what self defense is. When you feel you're truly in danger and have to act accordingly. Once again that scrawny white bitch wasn't putting him in danger.

I never claimed that man was defending himself so you can take that self defense argument elsewhere. That is why it actually doesn't have shit to do with what happened.

Shit was never about self defense which I've been known the legal definition of.

The shit is about a person violating my person. Someone violates me I don't give a fuck what the law says. I'm going to deal with it how I see fit. A person puts their hands on me I will NEVER be on some "oh but the law says I can't do that so let me just leave this situation alone."

Shit ain't about danger or this so called threat level you niggas keep talking about. Its about me being violated and my reaction to that violation. Anything else that happens after that then so be it. I can deal with that LATER after I deal with this person who just violated me.

And that short term thinking process is how people throw away their future....you say deal with it as if you'd just be ok with losing out on millions and having your reputation and character questioned forever just for a 5 second sense of "i showed that bitch". Dealing with something how you see fit in that moment ain't always worth the long term effects it brings. You can try to deny self defense has nothing to do with it all you want but once the court is involved you can't remove that aspect and if you think you just gonna knock a woman out in public and not have to deal with the law in any form, especially if you an athlete, you're just naive as hell

Ain't shit short term about it or some as you put "I showed that bitch". Its about you violated me I did something about that violation end of story. Its really that fucking simple. All this other extra shit you want to add on to it means absolutely nothing to me.

Lawrence Philips beat multiple white bitches not hit a bitch back who violated him and was still a 1st round pick who made millions. I'll give you in the end Philips was a complete fuck up but don't mean said player would actually lose their career. If they good enough the NFL will over look damn near anything. Long list of pro athletes who actually did some fucked up shit and still got paid millions. This dude didn't do anything wrong IMO.

Fuck I care about some strangers who don't know me from a can of paint questioning my character and reputation. Those same people do that shit athletes who have never done anything wrong. So move that bullshit along as well.

Never said I wouldn't have to deal with the law. I said I would deal with that shit later cause it ain't some shit I would care about when it comes to a person violating me.

Nobody in this world has to see shit my way. Whatever decision I choose to make in regards to someone violating me I don't give fuck about what the law says. If the choice I make violates the law I can deal with the consequences of that as well.

I'll never choose money over my person.

Not in this time. You see Greg Hardy out there on the field? Ray Rice? Shit even the Giants kicker got let go and nobody gives a fuck about kickers. It ain't about choosing money it's about making sure you don't throw away your future over 5 seconds of a reaction just to prove "I don't care what anybody thinks." You keep pretending having your future put in jeopardy is something you'd just handle casually...

Why is Greg Hardy unemployed? Hint: It's not for domestic violence
http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nfl-s...it-s-not-for-domestic-violence-133920118.html

Ray Rice old stats was already declining. If Ray Rice was in his prime or close to it he would be in the NFL IMO

How many times did he beat his wife? Come on you already know we not talking about serial abusers.

That is how you are taking it. I know the shit I stand on and regardless of future monetary gains I'm not letting someone violate me because of the consequences of how I choose to react to it.

I really don't care what anybody thinks about how I react to something that was done to ME and not them.

So that 1 article is all the proof as to why he's not in the league? How about all the negative media attention Dallas got last season for signing him, or the fact that conversations about him would dominate any broadcast of games they played? The domestic violence is the reason he's not signed because 99.9% of teams aren't willing to deal with that type of negative public backlash Dallas got, him being an asshole is why the Cowboys let him go. Those 2 aren't mutually exclusive.

Ray Rice's stats were declining but you know damn well he wouldn't be out the league still if not for that video. There's plenty RB's older with injury histories and the same lack of production on a roster right now. You can not care what anybody thinks, but to pretend you don't care about putting your future in jeopardy just makes you sound stupid. Like it's a bad thing to consider how your actions could affect you in the future.

You keep injecting your personal thoughts into the statements of a complete stranger. I never said I didn't care. I just said I would and could deal with the consequences. That is YOU taking it as if I don't care. I said I don't care about what the law says which is because I don't when it comes to how I deal with a violation committed against ME.

I'm a person who accepts the responsibility of my actions before I do them. So if those consequences of my actions leads me to prison so be it. I can accept that and deal with that. Just cause I ain't willing to bitch and cry and feel like how you do about it don't mean I don't care. It just means I don't make excuses for what I did when I know exactly what I did, why I did it and can and will deal with all of that.

I didn't say that one article was proof it was just an example of that hitting a woman isn't an automatic career ender.

Like I said with that video and all if Ray Rice was still in his prime or close to it he would still be in the league.

You got your opinion and I've got mine.

You'd have no choice but to accept the consequences. That's how life is. What I'm calling bullshit on is you doing it like you it's some small thing you just breeze by in life..and you can't say you don't care what others think yet part of your premise is steeped in what others would think if you didn't react a certain way
 
Accepting the consequences and dealing with the consequences are 2 different things.

More projections of how you feel about yourself. That bullshit has nothing to do with me or anything I've stated.

You deal with how you would and I'll deal with it how I please.

@blackrain
 
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bgoat;c-9559318 said:
Self-defense, I see nothing wrong. He neutralized a threat.

He neutralized it too hard though...he should've retaliated but not really retaliated. He should've defended himself, but not defended defended himself. He should've struck back...but not all the way back.
 
D. Morgan;c-9559332 said:
Accepting the consequences and dealing with the consequences are 2 different things.

More projections of how you feel about yourself. That bullshit has nothing to do with me or anything I've stated.

You deal with how you would and I'll deal with it how I please.

@blackrain

I'm not projecting anything. Your facade is funny though because those the first type to breakdown when put in a position to a really hard to face serious consequences for something they've done.
 
Max.;c-9559517 said:
So the report says (his words) she didnt call him anything or spit on him

She just hit like a dude

Yeah I noticed that and people just glossed over it. Said ol girls friend called him a nigger not the girl...so why not punch him?

stringer bell;c-9559128 said:
http://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/18318569/oklahoma-sooners-rb-joe-mixon-told-police-punched-woman-reaction

Sooners' Mixon to police: 'Felt like a dude hit me'

Oklahoma running back Joe Mixon told police in 2014 that "it felt like a dude hit me" when Amelia Molitor slapped him, and that he punched her as a reaction, according to a video The Oklahoman obtained of his interview with police three days after the incident inside a sandwich shop near campus.

In the video, Mixon told police that he heard a racial slur from Molitor's male friend, but not from Molitor. And Mixon admitted that he responded with a homophobic slur at the male friend.

"The gay dude ... he called me something," Mixon said in the video, according to The Oklahoman. "He was like (slur). So then I was like, you got me messed up. And then I called him a (slur). And after that, the girl, she dropped her purse, that's when she came in my face, pushed me, and then my glasses came off, and then, like, I had, like, jumped at her, like, to watch out. And then she came in my face. I put my head down. And she swung on me.

 
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To quote the great Clifford Harris

"idk what you'd do for your respect, but Ima die for mine"

now I'm not gonna go as far to callin yall bitch ass niggas, but it seems like sum of yall have no problem bein disrespected
 

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