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b*braze;1655503 said:
Abrupt transformations from one biologic system to another, for example the passing of life from water into land or the transition from invertebrates to vertebrates, are rare. Few major biological types have emerged during the evolutionary history of life and most of them survive till today. When lifeforms take such giant leaps, they meet little to no competition and are able to exploit a plethora of available niches, following a pattern of adaptive radiation. This can lead to convergent evolution, where unrelated populations display similar adaptations.[4]

Within the Modern Synthesis school of thought, macroevolution is thought of as the compounded effects of microevolution.[6] Thus, the distinction between micro- and macroevolution is not a fundamental one*– the only difference between them is of time and scale.

Misuse

The term "macroevolution" frequently arises within the context of the evolution/creation debate, usually used by creationists alleging a significant difference between the evolutionary changes observed in field and laboratory studies and the larger scale macroevolutionary changes that scientists believe to have taken thousands or millions of years to occur. They may accept that evolutionary change is possible within species ("microevolution"), but deny that one species can evolve into another ("macroevolution").[1] Contrary to this belief among the anti-evolution movement proponents, evolution of life forms beyond the species level ("macroevolution", i.e. speciation in a specific case) has indeed been observed multiple times under both controlled laboratory conditions and in nature. The claim that macroevolution does not occur, or is impossible, is thus demonstrably false and without support in the scientific community.

3] While details of macroevolution are continuously studied by the scientific community, the overall theory behind macroevolution (i.e. common descent) has been overwhelmingly consistent with empirical data. Predictions of empirical data from the theory of common descent have been so consistent that biologists often refer to it as the "fact of evolution".[14][15]

You were saying?

Lmao @ "look up macroevolution". You don't even understand it yourself.

What you just posted bolsters what I said previously. It's blind faith. Nobody has seen 1 species change into another species because it supposedly takes "millions of years". But rather, what has been observed in labs is nothing more than micro-evolution. Nothing spectacular my friend. So again, evolution is bogus. It takes more faith to believe in that garbage than it does to believe in the living and true God.
 
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DoUwant2go2Heaven?;1655628 said:
So you believe that macro-evolution has and is currently taking place? Like this diagram illustrates?

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Correct, but that picture only demonstrates one branch of unlimited possible evolutionary processes... which is determined based upon what environment the initial species in said picture decides to migrate to. In which another case, the initial species can still remain what it is if it remains in the environment it needs in order to remain what it is, while another group of the same species migrates to a different environment. Basically, you're thinking that we have no choice but to evolve into different species, when that's not the case. If our environment does not change, then we will not change either. But as you know, the Earth is constantly changing, and the earth has so many different types of environments and habitats. THIS is how we can observe, theorize and study evolution.
 
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Chike;1655632 said:
You left something out there, buddy.

I'm quoting God my friend.

"The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. They are corrupt, they have done abominable works, there is none that doeth good." Psalm 14:1

"The wrath of God is being revealed from heaven against all the godlessness and wickedness of men who suppress the truth by their wickedness." Romans 1:18
 
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DoUwant2go2Heaven?;1655645 said:
I'm quoting God my friend.

"The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. They are corrupt, they have done abominable works, there is none that doeth good." Psalm 14:1

"The wrath of God is being revealed from heaven against all the godlessness and wickedness of men who suppress the truth by their wickedness." Romans 1:18

lol Who gave you the bible? I bet another man did. I highly doubt the clouds opened up and down floated the bible in a bright iluminating light of holiness right at your front door step. If that was the case in how everyone recieved the bible... I would believe in your god. But I will not just believe what some other man told me without some sort of thought process involved or evidence of said claim....

DoUwant2go2Heaven?;1655634 said:
So again, evolution is bogus. It takes more faith to believe in that garbage than it does to believe in the living and true God.

If we believed in evolution based on faith... we would belive in your illogical and riduclous description of how evolution works. lol You're hilarious.

Also, what living god? The god that only lives in a book? lol come on bro....
 
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Chike;1655640 said:
Correct, but that picture only demonstrates one branch of unlimited possible evolutionary processes... which is determined based upon what environment the initial species in said picture decides to migrate to. In which another case, the initial species can still remain what it is if it remains in the environment it needs in order to remain what it is, while another group of the same species migrates to a different environment. Basically, you're thinking that we have no choice but to evolve into different species, when that's not the case. If our environment does not change, then we will not change either. But as you know, the Earth is constantly changing, and the earth has so many different types of environments and habitats. THIS is how we can observe, theorize and study evolution.

So where are the missing links? Billions and billions and billions of years of history (supposedly) and no missing link can be found in the fossil record? No iron clad evidence which 100% supports this theory can be found in the fossil record? Nothing. Nada. Zip. Zilch. Cero. 0. I mean it's utterly ridiculous. I mean we can find every type of dinosaur bone, but yet no missing link to any creature, let alone humans. It's ridiculous Chike. I mean good grief, you got a brain.

By the way, do you mind telling me why humans evolved to have a mind that could reason and understand that there is a God, while animals didn't?
 
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Chike;1655649 said:
lol Who gave you the bible? I bet another man did. I highly doubt the clouds opened up and down floated the bible in a bright iluminating light of holiness right at your front door step. If that was the case in how everyone recieved the bible... I would believe in your god. But I will not just believe what some other man told me without some sort of thought process involved or evidence of said claim....

Evidence? It's all around you my brother. All you have to do is open up your eyes to see. God bless.
 
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DoUwant2go2Heaven?;1655655 said:
So where are the missing links? Billions and billions and billions of years of history (supposedly) and no missing link can be found in the fossil record? No iron clad evidence which 100% supports this theory can be found in the fossil record? Nothing. Nada. Zip. Zilch. Cero. 0. I mean it's utterly ridiculous. I mean we can find every type of dinosaur bone, but yet no missing link to any creature, let alone humans. It's ridiculous Chike. I mean good grief, you got a brain.

What missing link? It's called theorizing based on the laws of physics lol Mathematics? Ever heard ot it? It's like counting... Ever taken an IQ test? What's the next number in this sequence? 1,2,4,8,(?)
 
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Chike;1655701 said:
What missing link? It's called theorizing based on the laws of physics lol Mathematics? Ever heard ot it? It's like counting... Ever taken an IQ test? What's the next number in this sequence? 1,2,4,8,(?)
 
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DoUwant2go2Heaven?;1655754 said:
1. What missing link? The missing link that the whole scientific community is looking for, so that they can deny the existence of God with tangible proof.

2. This is what you said, "the environment permitted our brains to grow intelligent enough to realize this."
You also stated, "If our environment does not change, then we will not change either."

So taking what you said and relating it the question I posed, are you saying that 1 human being grew a brain big enough to reason and that was the starting point? Or did many human beings at the same time grow barins big enough to reason?

1) A missing link does not prove your god either.... If anything, when we find whatever missing link you're talking about, it will prove one of two things.... 1- OUR evolution was a complete and un-interrupted process here on earth... or 2- Our evolutionary process was given a boost by some sort of alien/E.T. life form that probably had enough time to naturally evolve into it's current form on another planet.

The fact that the universe an the earth is more than 6 thousand years old already disproves your belief system... We're not trying to find a missing link just to disprove your god... we don't need it. We're trying to find a missing link because it's called learning and discovering. lol

2) Yes, the ever changing environment. If the environment all over the earth was the same and never changed, I'm sure life would have remained as a single celled orgasm....

3) Your brain question is not that simple. The brain development in certain humans was, again, a slow process. So the primates who were living in the conditions that would require smarter brains would have slowly built up to that point. It's not like a primate gave birth to another primate and then all of a sudden they were building houses and creating languages.
 
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solid analysis;1654199 said:
that very well may be part of the curse...

So natural disasters might be apart of this curse? Really, so tell me, why do other planets (which have no life in our solar system) also have natural disasters take place but to a higher extreme?
 
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DoUwant2go2Heaven?;1655628 said:
So you believe that macro-evolution has and is currently taking place? Like this diagram illustrates?

91e4gy.jpg

hilarious... that "diagram" shows transformation from a lizard to a bird and doesnt even take itself seriously

evolution works like this

Australopithecus ramidus - 5 to 4 million years BCE

Australopithecus afarensis - 4 to 2.7 million years BCE

Australopithecus africanus - 3.0 to 2.0 million years BCE

Australopithecus robustus - 2.2 to 1.0 million years BCE

Homo habilis - 2.2 to 1.6 million years BCE

Homo erectus - 2 to 0.4 million years BCE

Homo sapiens - 400,000 to 200,000 years BCE

Homo sapiens neandertalensis - 200,000 to 30,000 years BCE

Homo sapiens sapiens - 130,000 years BCE to present
 
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DoUwant2go2Heaven?;15634 said:
What you just posted bolsters what I said previously. It's blind faith. Nobody has seen 1 species change into another species because it supposedly takes "millions of years". But rather, what has been observed in labs is nothing more than micro-evolution. Nothing spectacular my friend. So again, evolution is bogus. It takes more faith to believe in that garbage than it does to believe in the living and true God.

i guess you missed this

The term "macroevolution" frequently arises within the context of the evolution/creation debate, usually used by creationists alleging a significant difference between the evolutionary changes observed in field and laboratory studies and the larger scale macroevolutionary changes that scientists believe to have taken thousands or millions of years to occur. They may accept that evolutionary change is possible within species ("microevolution"), but deny that one species can evolve into another ("macroevolution").[1] Contrary to this belief among the anti-evolution movement proponents, evolution of life forms beyond the species level ("macroevolution", i.e. speciation in a specific case) has indeed been observed multiple times under both controlled laboratory conditions and in nature. The claim that macroevolution does not occur, or is impossible, is thus demonstrably false and without support in the scientific community.

even so... macro evolution =/= chicken into a shark
 
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Chike;1656043 said:
God didn't say anything... a book did (or didn't).

Correct, God never said it wasn't possible and neither did the book.

Seriously, religion has really corrupted the mind. It talks about "free will" but where? It's corrupted them to fully think that none of science is true and all of it's dating and evolution is false. It's sad really, to see DoU so involved and stuck in religion that he can't see clearly about evolution and to say something very stupid as "chicken to shark" type of deal.
 
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DoUwant2go2Heaven?;1655634 said:
What you just posted bolsters what I said previously. It's blind faith. Nobody has seen 1 species change into another species because it supposedly takes "millions of years". But rather, what has been observed in labs is nothing more than micro-evolution. Nothing spectacular my friend. So again, evolution is bogus. It takes more faith to believe in that garbage than it does to believe in the living and true God.

That's RELIGION! Blind faith, period. Funny you use it towards this but not yourself LOL wow..
 
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solid analysis;1654199 said:
that very well may be part of the curse...

So natural disasters might be apart of this curse? Really, so tell me, why do other planets (which have no life in our solar system) also have natural disasters take place but to a higher extreme?
 
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