"upon thy belly shalt thou go, and dust shalt thou eat all the days of thy life."

[Rock_Well]

can you plz explain how is the idea of a talking snake any more crazy than the idea of us on the internet thousands of miles away from each other, chatting with each other in real time

 

[VIBE]

can you plz explain how is the idea of a talking snake any more crazy than the idea of us on the internet thousands of miles away from each other, chatting with each other in real time

Can technology make a real snake talk in real time?

 

[DoUwant2go2Heaven]

The article doesn't hint they could fly prior to the fall of man. It's something they picked up on later in their snake lives of evolution and pass it down to others. If you think God made them that way and don't believe in evolution then what about this?

Rattlesnakes, in a certain area, not sure if it's Texas or not but around there humans have "sped up and influenced evolution". These certain Rattlers don't rattle anymore when in danger of a human near by. Why? Humans go on "snake hunts" and kill them for their skin, rattlers and whatever else. Amazing that they have pretty much caught on and don't rattle, why? Because rattling gives off their hiding spots making it very easy for them to be found and caught. When they don't rattle, the hunters have no idea where they are at. THESE ARE THE ONLY SNAKES, IN THIS AREA, THAT DON'T RATTLE!! It's very much so evidence of evolution taking place and we're speeding it up! These snakes will NOT rattle UNTIL they are PICKED UP. So this is more dangerous to humans. Do you consider God telling these snakes NOT to rattle? Or is this plain out them catching on and being SMART to NOT rattle because they know?

What about the Killer Whale? It has been widely known that the Great White shark is the KING of the Seas, it's the TOP predator amongst the waters period. Right? Nope, not anymore there's now a contender and it kills sharks. Kills Great Whites, it's called the Killer Whale (Orca). This muthafucka is smart as fuck. Check this out...

Scientist found out if you take a shark and position it belly up it goes into "Tonic Immobilization" basically it remains calm and "goes to sleep". Not even the smell of blood will pop it up and awake, it's sense heighten but not enough to make it awaken. Anyway, we know this and been known this, which is how scientist are able to place tracking devices on sharks easily. One thing, they can't be like that for a long period of time (more than 15 min I think) or they die/drown/suffocate. Well the Killer Whale now caught on to this tactic. They RAM the Great White (or any shark) from the side, putting it in a daze, then ram it until it "flips belly up" once belly up, they rush it and hold it in that position with it's MOUTH. They hold it until it's dead, then they eat the damn thing. This happened over at the Farallon Island on camera, after that attack the sharks left. They left over 100 miles of their hunting grounds for GOOD! Scared of these Killer Whales. What made them leave? The smell of what scientist call "death". When the shark dies, it releases a pheromone of "death" in which makes the sharks scatter and swim away, very very far away. Scientist recreated this smell and chummed the waters with blood, fish etc. They allowed a group of sharks to feast, they opened this can of this "death" threw it in the water and literally within 1 sec they all scattered and left for good.

Now that's TWO things. 1. The Killer Whale killing Great Whites by now knowing what to do and 2. Great Whites (or all sharks) being able to have a scent to let them know "GTFO, this shit is dangerous". It's not just a death, we see that all the time, Lions see it and stay around. Birds see it and stay around, other fish see it and stay around but these sharks have a communication of stay away, far away.

ALSO! Being that Sting Rays are close relatives of sharks, Killer Whales ALSO know that if a STING RAY is flipped belly up the same shit happens. So a Killer Whale goes UPSIDE DOWN, bites a sting ray, turns right side up and in that movement it puts the sting ray upside down. It's all evolution, they learn by doing and in doing so the others watch communicate and learn as well.

It's evolution, not God doing anything to interfere and help them. Not God taking or granting them abilities.

1. Snakes have brains. How is not using their rattler in the presence of humans evolution?

2. Don't see how your correlating killer whales killing great whites with evolution, but I liked the information.

3. Dont see how your correlating the "death scent" with evolution either. I mean these creatures have brains my friend.

4. While I enjoyed the info you provided, you still have not presented any evidence for evolution. When a chicken evolves into a shark, I will believe in evolution. Until then it will continually be filed away in the circular file

 

[VIBE]

I see that reasoning skiils, common sense, and plain ol intuitive instincts is lacking round these parts. I mean come on. Of course snakes can't fly now. I was just trying to open up peoples minds a litttle bit. Yes, 1+1=2. But we need to get beyond the basics and dig a little my friend.

LACK of REASONING SKILLS, COMMON SENSE! Are you kidding me DoU? Chike makes one hell of a point, if this a curse BY GOD!!!!!!!!!!! That's you will WALK THE REST OF YOUR LIVES ON YOUR BELLY AND EATING DUST, then how is it POSSIBLE that a SNAKE is able to go from the ground, to a tree, to the air as means of TRAVEL!? Sounds like to me the snake has outsmarted God, no?

It takes common sense to see that snakes aren't curse and ONCE HAD LEGS!!!!!!!!!!!!! That's not FAKE, they once DID and snakes today STILL HAVE EVIDENCE OF HIND LEGS! Also, it takes a reasoning skill to see that snakes (if cursed) outsmarted God by all means.

 

[TX_Made713]

Do you, do you ever plan on becoming a pastor and owning your own church? or is this forum as far as your evangelizing gonna go

 

[VIBE]

1. Snakes have brains. How is not using their rattler in the presence of humans evolution?

2. Don't see how your correlating killer whales killing great whites with evolution, but I liked the information.

3. Dont see how your correlating the "death scent" with evolution either. I mean these creatures have brains my friend.

4. While I enjoyed the info you provided, you still have not presented any evidence for evolution. When a chicken evolves into a shark, I will believe in evolution. Until then it will continually be filed away in the circular file

They're evolving to do greater things, they're smarter than what we claim them to be. Their brains are evolving to understandings, to their surroundings, to their lives! How isn't that evolution? If it has never been seen before, and they've been studied for a very long time, and is JUST NOW taking place it's called evolution buddy. Evolution isn't necessarily an animal TRANSFORMING into another, it's all about growth of their cultures so to say. We evolved from dirt homes, caves and pyramids to what we have now. We've evolved a long ways from where we started and the animals do the same, THAT is evolution. What I'm asking you is do you think that's GOD telling them what to do? Or is it evolution and it is evolution.

 

[DoUwant2go2Heaven]

LACK of REASONING SKILLS, COMMON SENSE! Are you kidding me DoU? Chike makes one hell of a point, if this a curse BY GOD!!!!!!!!!!! That's you will WALK THE REST OF YOUR LIVES ON YOUR BELLY AND EATING DUST, then how is it POSSIBLE that a SNAKE is able to go from the ground, to a tree, to the air as means of TRAVEL!? Sounds like to me the snake has outsmarted God, no?

It takes common sense to see that snakes aren't curse and ONCE HAD LEGS!!!!!!!!!!!!! That's not FAKE, they once DID and snakes today STILL HAVE EVIDENCE OF HIND LEGS! Also, it takes a reasoning skill to see that snakes (if cursed) outsmarted God by all means.

LOL. Ya'll crack me up. I need to start coming on here more often. I forgot how the IC is. Forgive me for being so niave

 

[DoUwant2go2Heaven]

Do you, do you ever plan on becoming a pastor and owning your own church? or is this forum as far as your evangelizing gonna go

God has called me to the ministry and I am currently finishing my undergraduate studies right now. After that my plans are to go to seminary. Where that will lead me, I have no clue. Only God knows. I just have to walk in faith and trust in Him.

 

[VIBE]

I'm talking to you through a forum without laughing at your beliefs, and yet when a christian can't defend themselves they have to laugh at the other side? The best defense is laugh, say we're crazy in a sugarcoated form and derail the topic at hand. I fucking win, FTW!

 

[Rock_Well]

Can technology make a real snake talk in real time?

well...not yet

 

[Chike]

I see that reasoning skiils, common sense, and plain ol intuitive instincts is lacking round these parts. I mean come on. Of course snakes can't fly now. I was just trying to open up peoples minds a litttle bit. Yes, 1+1=2. But we need to get beyond the basics and dig a little my friend.

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[DoUwant2go2Heaven]

They're evolving to do greater things, they're smarter than what we claim them to be. Their brains are evolving to understandings, to their surroundings, to their lives! How isn't that evolution? If it has never been seen before, and they've been studied for a very long time, and is JUST NOW taking place it's called evolution buddy. Evolution isn't necessarily an animal TRANSFORMING into another, it's all about growth of their cultures so to say. We evolved from dirt homes, caves and pyramids to what we have now. We've evolved a long ways from where we started and the animals do the same, THAT is evolution. What I'm asking you is do you think that's GOD telling them what to do? Or is it evolution and it is evolution.

How long have snakes, sharks, and killer whales been studied for? Seriously? You say a long time. I highly doubt that my friend. We don't even know all the creatures in the oceans my brother. So how long have we seriously been studying these animals for? God gave animals brains my brother. You know they are allowed to use them, right?

 

[DoUwant2go2Heaven]

I'm talking to you through a forum without laughing at your beliefs, and yet when a christian can't defend themselves they have to laugh at the other side? The best defense is laugh, say we're crazy in a sugarcoated form and derail the topic at hand. I fucking win, FTW!

If this is winning. Wow. Congratulations my friend.

 

[Chike]

How long have snakes, sharks, and killer whales been studied for? Seriously? You say a long time. I highly doubt that my friend. We don't even know all the creatures in the oceans my brother. So how long have we seriously been studying these animals for? God gave animals brains my brother. You know they are allowed to use them, right?

Appearently humans are the only ones damned to hell for using them.

 

[VIBE]

How long have snakes, sharks, and killer whales been studied for? Seriously? You say a long time. I highly doubt that my friend. We don't even know all the creatures in the oceans my brother. So how long have we seriously been studying these animals for? God gave animals brains my brother. You know they are allowed to use them, right?

Ever since they first started, in who knows what time. It's easy to study sharks, whales, dolphins, fish that are accessible. It's within our viewing depths, within technology to do so. They know a lot about a shark and how it functions, how it works, how it smells, how it feels vibrations and electronic pulses. We know how it views the world when it pops up it's head out of the water to investigate.

They know how the whales function with calls, with navigation, they know where they go and how far. They know how deep they go.

You're saying we haven't been there long enough? Agree, we haven't been there studying them since the beginning of time. BUT out of all the years that they've been studied new behavior pops up and there's evidence of this new behavior on their bodies and in their actions. It's something NEW they see. THEY know what's been around and what hasn't.

I, with common sense and reasoning skills, know they have brains and are "allowed" to use them. It's how they evolve into using them for better purposes.

 

[VIBE]

If this is winning. Wow. Congratulations my friend.

Thanks man!

 

[Rock_Well]

ok im leaving this thread now lol

 

[VIBE]

well...not yet

Not yet? There's no proof of talking snakes man. The snake could've HISSED and it could be interpreted as talking but it's up to the person on the end of the hiss to make something out of it. Something such as, "oh the snake told me to". LOL Really, come on S.A. get real. Talking snakes, even when I was a believer I couldn't think something up.

 

[Rock_Well]

Not yet? There's no proof of talking snakes man. The snake could've HISSED and it could be interpreted as talking but it's up to the person on the end of the hiss to make something out of it. Something such as, "oh the snake told me to". LOL Really, come on S.A. get real. Talking snakes, even when I was a believer I couldn't think something up.

In terms of the Bible, the serpent recorded in Genesis talking was actually the Devil. It wasn't just a random serpent talking.

 

[b*braze]

that's just sick man.

Fuckin hilarious....