U know whats pathetic... U dudes who listen to crack-rap an act like..

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midwestgangsta;609888 said:
^^lol... u come to hold his hand... that shit is sweet of u

I don't know about that man. but u always seem to spin this into some man on man intimate shit. it's kinda weird in my opinion. like I said, I think someone been touching u.
 
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Fazeem Blackall;609825 said:
[video=youtube;RMqfRey10gA]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RMqfRey10gA[/video] This is Gangsta Rap it is Gritty Raw full of street stories about what people do to survive and then the consequences of this life. The Gangsta Rapper is a reflection and a Voice of the community in which they come from. They Speak on a reality that most suburbanites and other well to dos will never have to live or be involved with covering the good, bad and the ugly of our struggle.

But Trap or Crack Music is a a bastard child Of Gangsta Rap which while focusing on the highs of the life just glamourizes with out focus on the Lows of Hood Life. To make it worse they have coopted the grittiness of reality that made gangsta rap grab americas attention and replaced it with a fantasy world where shit is all good the dope game becomes simplified and a Movie Like lavish lifestyle for all who want it, you will have Cars Money Hoes and Clothes, Be a Don, etc...
To help recapture this thread from derailment by those with Homo Agendas...
 
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Fazeem Blackall;609985 said:
To help recapture this thread from derailment by those with Homo Agendas...

a lot of these younger guys like trap & swag rap because it makes them feel good. on top of that, women love it, so they get attention off of it. trap and swag rap is a hard derivative of rap to deny, because even more powerful than what i just mentioned is the fact that record labels push trap & swag through the radio. so there are a lot of youth that like it simply because that's what they hear.
 
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musicology1985;610014 said:
a lot of these younger guys like trap & swag rap because it makes them feel good. on top of that, women love it, so they get attention off of it. trap and swag rap is a hard derivative of rap to deny, because even more powerful than what i just mentioned is the fact that record labels push trap & swag through the radio. so there are a lot of youth that like it simply because that's what they hear.

I completely agree but the trend to move towards the more fantasy driven rap happened in the 90's and was cemented with making Eminem the face of Mainstream HipHop. Look at his content and the correlation between those allowed to get spins on tv or radio. Gangsta Rap went underground again after peaking its head for a few years in the 90's and the coprorate powers did not like the direction HipHop was traveling as HipHop up till that point had been truly Afrocentric and they stopped the pace of growth and got us back to day dreaming and escaping reality instead of facing it...
 
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Fazeem Blackall;610046 said:
I completely agree but the trend to move towards the more fantasy driven rap happened in the 90's and was cemented with making Eminem the face of Mainstream HipHop. Look at his content and the correlation between those allowed to get spins on tv or radio. Gangsta Rap went underground again after peaking its head for a few years in the 90's and the coprorate powers did not like the direction HipHop was traveling as HipHop up till that point had been truly Afrocentric and they stopped the pace of growth and got us back to day dreaming and escaping reality instead of facing it...

your right. the reason gangsta rap was shut down is because Tupac was becoming too powerful in 1996 and so was Suge Knight. even though suge was grimey, he never was pop. therefore he was never gonna push fairytales. so after pac's death, damn near the whole west coast was shut down. the only dudes who have operated consistently nationwide is snoop, cube, short, dre & 40. and they were on before 96. other than that? everybody else is basically independent except the game.
 
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musicology1985;610090 said:
your right. the reason gangsta rap was shut down is because Tupac was becoming too powerful in 1996 and so was Suge Knight. even though suge was grimey, he never was pop. therefore he was never gonna push fairytales. so after pac's death, damn near the whole west coast was shut down. the only dudes who have operated consistently nationwide is snoop, cube, short, dre & 40. and they were on before 96. other than that? everybody else is basically independent except the game.

can't forget the black eyed peas and other "non threatening groups from the west."
 
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musicology1985;610090 said:
your right. the reason gangsta rap was shut down is because Tupac was becoming too powerful in 1996 and so was Suge Knight. even though suge was grimey, he never was pop. therefore he was never gonna push fairytales. so after pac's death, damn near the whole west coast was shut down. the only dudes who have operated consistently nationwide is snoop, cube, short, dre & 40. and they were on before 96. other than that? everybody else is basically independent except the game.

Of all those you named only Snoop and Dre have stayed consistantly in the maistreams graces. Dre became interscopes poster boy thus guarranteeing himself a spot of logetivity , Snoop has said whatever was popular with the powers that be to get back in and keep in good graces, Cube even after trying to make amends said fuck it and quit trying to stay in mainstream music and jumped mediums to Movies fulltime with hipHop now being his part time underground passion, Neither 40 nor Short Dog has ever had more then a few radio hits and while both are good at what they do neither has ever had to much of a mainstream push even after many southern connections and collabs...
 
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Fazeem Blackall;610111 said:
Of all those you named only Snoop and Dre have stayed consistantly in the maistreams graces. Dre became interscopes poster boy thus guarranteeing himself a spot of logetivity , Snoop has said whatever was popular with the powers that be to get back in and keep in good graces, Cube even after trying to make amends said fuck it and quit trying to stay in mainstream music and jumped mediums to Movies fulltime with hipHop now being his part time underground passion, Neither 40 nor Short Dog has ever had more then a few radio hits and while both are good at what they do neither has ever had to much of a mainstream push even after many southern connections and collabs...

40, cube, game & short have all had success. and u can trace all of their labels back to the big 4. everybody else has gotten the shaft.
 
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Hrap why you come back as "supreme mind"? We already know that's your alias. You a lame. You fake revolutionary. Go out on an actual block and preach that fake shit nigga
 
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Fazeem Blackall;610046 said:
I completely agree but the trend to move towards the more fantasy driven rap happened in the 90's and was cemented with making Eminem the face of Mainstream HipHop. Look at his content and the correlation between those allowed to get spins on tv or radio. Gangsta Rap went underground again after peaking its head for a few years in the 90's and the coprorate powers did not like the direction HipHop was traveling as HipHop up till that point had been truly Afrocentric and they stopped the pace of growth and got us back to day dreaming and escaping reality instead of facing it...

Let me get this correct. Your saying that the "powers that be" would rather push "crack-rap" more then "gangsta-rap" as a way of controlling the afro-american/minority/youth population?

Is that what you were getting at becoz if so, I think you may be onto something and I only have an outsiders perspective as such (being a white Australian) but that is a very very interesting point you make and one I would have to say just might be the truth.

Unless of course that wasn't what you were saying at all haha.
 
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The Great White Hype;610500 said:
Thread starters father is in jail for touchin little kids nh

So im sure the apple dont fall to far from the tree.

fuckin wannabe keyboard revolutionary.

All FACTS. Hrap always talks about starting nonprofits for runaway little boys

Smh & nh
 
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rap hurts my ears and make me want to hit my wife! jazz makes me want to make some money drink some wine or henn and have fun..
 
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Coo Coo Cal's Beanie;610138 said:
Hrap why you come back as "supreme mind"? We already know that's your alias. You a lame. You fake revolutionary. Go out on an actual block and preach that fake shit nigga

Cosign.............
 
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Shout out to broke old niggas who try to talk down on niggas he dont know, online.

Kill yourself Perry mason
 
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StillDreaming;604087 said:
Cosign. Aint nobody trying to be no trapper i just find the music entertaining. I also like The GodFather and Scarface but that doesnt mean Im a coon or a "wannabe" gangster. It also doesnt mean I dont listen to so called "concious" rap either...... I like all forms of hiphop.

Yeah I agree with this. Too many bad parents and a fucked up economy are the reason so many kids out here are trapping or hustling hard (drugs, robbing, etc) to make money. I disagree with you H-Rap on blaming 2pac for the high rise of gangsta rap....nobody sells dimes for fun.....niggas sell dimes cuz they ain't doing fine.....

I do agree though that SOME people think their hard cuz they listen to 50 Cent or Young Jeezy, but I don't think most niggas here do that shit.
 
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musicology1985;610118 said:
40, cube, game & short have all had success. and u can trace all of their labels back to the big 4. everybody else has gotten the shaft.

At one point or another yes that is true as I said Short Dog and E40 have had hits but never have they had a consistant push rather a loyal following with some crossovers, I remember Hearing Life is Too Short way Back in the day On the radio and Mtv then it was another 6 years before I heard another radio song for short then another 7 after that Longetivity is a beast, they stayed dropping albums and stayed true to there formulas and because of that have consistant fanbases.

Cube has done his shit Indepndant since escaping from Priority in 2003 and now just does Distribution through Virgin. If we could get some artist owned Radio Power and some artist owned distribution in HipHop the game would change, but since both those mediums are now becoming obsolete it would be pointless. At this point Online Radio and distribution of content seems to be only medium of growth and if we are smart instread of playing the old game the OG's will lead the way in Hip Hop and break from trying to get in a dying mainstreams graces. popularity can be more easily measured Honestly online then on radio because most radio stations only use requested songs 5 to 10 % of the time, even then with Countdowns mostly of songs that have already been droned 30 times aday till everyone is familiar with it. m
 
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lol at niggaz think gangsta rap is so uplifting over trap rap. yall dudes crazy, why cant people listen to what they want, i listen to everything, i mean all different types of rap but i dont let it influnce me at all (good rap or bad rap).
 
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