Tyler the Creator: TERRIBLE album and he comes of as phony and lame to me

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Frank Ocean is ill,EARL Is ill(But he be on that weird shyt too),Domo is dope etc...I just can't get into tyler with that super rapist sadistic shyt..Shyt is for the byrds forreal

He ripped yonkers as far as flow but what he was saying was too bugged out..Black people ain't feeling odd future,only black devils and crackkkas
 
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Anyway, Tyler is really good if you can look past his content. He has some clever ass lines that most won't get because he self references a lot.
 
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What's wrong with a nigga having a gimick when everybody in rap has a goddamn gimmick. You know what's cornball, Rick Ross. Rick Ross's three word lines to is very corny.
 
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freshb651;2543668 said:
first off,good drops by Kingdomkame.I never heard those Mellowhype songs those were dope

in some song odd future compared themselves to Wu-Tang("nigga we the new Wu-Tang")I think that's accurate you have a bunch of different talents with different sounds moving

as one.People who are writing them off as just "weird" aren't listening, on Yonkers the first words out his mouth are "I'm a fucking walking paradox" so throughout the song he's

saying Paradoxal shit,even the name of the song being Yonkers when he's from Cali lol that's genius to me,"green paper,gold teeth and pregnant gold retrievers all i want/fuck money(green paper)diamonds(gold teeth,jewelry)and bitches(golden retrievers)don't need em' "

hip-hop fans are IMPOSSIBLE to please you say you want new creative shit and when someone comes with it you say they're weird !,this is why you have CO's acting like the second

coming of Pablo Escobar and niggas getting Ducks tatted on their faces.I like the little bit I've heard from OFWGKTA so far and I look forward to hearing more..

Yeah, I don't fuck wit Tyler or earl but Mellowhype and Mike G sound dope

I'mma have to DL they shit

Good looks KingdomKane
 
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backpackingrapper;2544290 said:
What's wrong with a nigga having a gimick when everybody in rap has a goddamn gimmick. You know what's cornball, Rick Ross. Rick Ross's three word lines to is very corny.

So now rhyme schemes are a gimmick?
 
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freshb651;2543668 said:
first off,good drops by Kingdomkame.I never heard those Mellowhype songs those were dope

in some song odd future compared themselves to Wu-Tang("nigga we the new Wu-Tang")I think that's accurate you have a bunch of different talents with different sounds moving

as one.People who are writing them off as just "weird" aren't listening, on Yonkers the first words out his mouth are "I'm a fucking walking paradox" so throughout the song he's

saying Paradoxal shit,even the name of the song being Yonkers when he's from Cali lol that's genius to me,"green paper,gold teeth and pregnant gold retrievers all i want/fuck money(green paper)diamonds(gold teeth,jewelry)and bitches(golden retrievers)don't need em' "

hip-hop fans are IMPOSSIBLE to please you say you want new creative shit and when someone comes with it you say they're weird !,this is why you have CO's acting like the second

coming of Pablo Escobar and niggas getting Ducks tatted on their faces.I like the little bit I've heard from OFWGKTA so far and I look forward to hearing more..

underrated post...
 
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freshb651;2543668 said:
first off,good drops by Kingdomkame.I never heard those Mellowhype songs those were dope

in some song odd future compared themselves to Wu-Tang("nigga we the new Wu-Tang")I think that's accurate you have a bunch of different talents with different sounds moving

as one.People who are writing them off as just "weird" aren't listening, on Yonkers the first words out his mouth are "I'm a fucking walking paradox" so throughout the song he's

saying Paradoxal shit,even the name of the song being Yonkers when he's from Cali lol that's genius to me,"green paper,gold teeth and pregnant gold retrievers all i want/fuck money(green paper)diamonds(gold teeth,jewelry)and bitches(golden retrievers)don't need em' "

hip-hop fans are IMPOSSIBLE to please you say you want new creative shit and when someone comes with it you say they're weird !,this is why you have CO's acting like the second

coming of Pablo Escobar and niggas getting Ducks tatted on their faces.I like the little bit I've heard from OFWGKTA so far and I look forward to hearing more..

I didnt even notice that but if thats true thats a cold ass line
 
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i remember stating this in another thread on odd future, that they are trying to come off as the black version of the jackass/big brother guys. after reading/seeing interviews i find out that they had a sk8 magazine JUST like the jackass crew and now they have a new show being featured on adult swim called "blackass":

[video=youtube;YZ4BMKbji54]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YZ4BMKbji54&feature=player_embedded[/video]
 
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MAKAVELI25;2544814 said:
So now rhyme schemes are a gimmick?

don't be a smart ass lol. I was just stating that he is a cornball... I addressed the gimmick shit people was talking and then I addressed the cornball shit people was talking. Do I have to space my sentences so people can see that it's two different statements?
 
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freshb651;2543668 said:
first off,good drops by Kingdomkame.I never heard those Mellowhype songs those were dope

in some song odd future compared themselves to Wu-Tang("nigga we the new Wu-Tang")I think that's accurate you have a bunch of different talents with different sounds moving

as one.People who are writing them off as just "weird" aren't listening, on Yonkers the first words out his mouth are "I'm a fucking walking paradox" so throughout the song he's

saying Paradoxal shit,even the name of the song being Yonkers when he's from Cali lol that's genius to me,"green paper,gold teeth and pregnant gold retrievers all i want/fuck money(green paper)diamonds(gold teeth,jewelry)and bitches(golden retrievers)don't need em' "

hip-hop fans are IMPOSSIBLE to please you say you want new creative shit and when someone comes with it you say they're weird !,this is why you have CO's acting like the second

coming of Pablo Escobar and niggas getting Ducks tatted on their faces.I like the little bit I've heard from OFWGKTA so far and I look forward to hearing more..

Cornball post.

they are nothing like WU-Tang other than their numbers.

yeah people call you weird if you eat cockroachs, vomit in multiple videos, lynch yourself, and rap about rape like it's trendy...if people think that's normal behavior they are probably weirdo's themselves.

HipHop fans are easy to please, you just give them good music and they appreciate the art, the weirdos are hard to please because they only relate to deviant and weirdo ish and then call u a genius when you act like a freak

If you a white boy I can understand how they would appeal to you more than a Kendrick Lamar who isn't a

funnystyle Black skateboarder who slows down his vocals, but the Wolf Gang found a demographic to support them...Kudos.
 
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H-Rap 180;2545501 said:
Cornball post.

they are nothing like WU-Tang other than their numbers.

yeah people call you weird if you eat cockroachs, vomit in multiple videos, lynch yourself, and rap about rape like it's trendy...if people think that's normal behavior they are probably weirdo's themselves.

HipHop fans are easy to please, you just give them good music and they appreciate the art, the weirdos are hard to please because they only relate to deviant and weirdo ish and then call u a genius when you act like a freak

If you a white boy I can understand how they would appeal to you more than a Kendrick Lamar who isn't a
funnystyle Black skateboarder who slows down his vocals, but the Wolf Gang found a demographic to support them...Kudos.

See I don't get that shit, rappers talk about killing people all day. I feel rape and murder is in the same quality because when a person is raped they soul is straight stolen like shang tsung was fighting them. Just like loose threats in Hip Hop and creative ways of rapping about killing somebody they do the same. Shit's weird too, that's why republicans hate rap. What ya doing right now is the same shit Jazz artist or Country sings or R&B or hey even Rock was saying that about rap back in the late 80's when the content became murderous. Shit moves in cycles people and that... that's weird.

No argument doe just something for every body.
 
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They employ the Wu business model imo.... as well with their numbers and being headed by a producer. Thats it in terms of similarity. Music is nothing alike
 
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KingdomKame;2545642 said:
They employ the Wu business model imo.... as well with their numbers and being headed by a producer. Thats it in terms of similarity. Music is nothing alike

exactly,that's what I was getting at I'm not saying they're surpassing the Wu or anything,at least Tyler and co don't have to post lyrics and beats on the IC :)
 
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KingdomKame;2545642 said:
They employ the Wu business model imo.... as well with their numbers and being headed by a producer. Thats it in terms of similarity. Music is nothing alike

Another similarity to Wutang though is public perception.

When Wutang first came out with '36 chambers', a lot of 'old heads' at the time HATED it. I used to get in debates for days trying to defend how I liked Wutang Clan and people telling me it was "garbage" and "yelling" and "that's not hiphop". Remember Ol' Dirty Bastard always saying "Wutang is for the children!"... that's because the young kids were embracing it as something new and different.

I think that is what Wolf Gang is trying to do... find a new lane different than the over 30 rappers like Jay Z / Nas / Rick Ross, etc. who dominate the charts.
 
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sniperk;2545687 said:
Another similarity to Wutang though is public perception.

When Wutang first came out with '36 chambers', a lot of 'old heads' at the time HATED it. I used to get in debates for days trying to defend how I liked Wutang Clan and people telling me it was "garbage" and "yelling" and "that's not hiphop". Remember Ol' Dirty Bastard always saying "Wutang is for the children!"... that's because the young kids were embracing it as something new and different.

I think that is what Wolf Gang is trying to do... find a new lane different than the over 30 rappers like Jay Z / Nas / Rick Ross, etc. who dominate the charts.

Lol damn really? As a young guy cant imagine people not liking wu tang. Shit was that controversial?
 
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backpackingrapper;2545608 said:
See I don't get that shit, rappers talk about killing people all day. I feel rape and murder is in the same quality because when a person is raped they soul is straight stolen like shang tsung was fighting them. Just like loose threats in Hip Hop and creative ways of rapping about killing somebody they do the same. Shit's weird too, that's why republicans hate rap. What ya doing right now is the same shit Jazz artist or Country sings or R&B or hey even Rock was saying that about rap back in the late 80's when the content became murderous. Shit moves in cycles people and that... that's weird.

No argument doe just something for every body.

A rapper rhyming about killing his enemies or a person playing Call of Duty is male-on-male violence, it's hyper- aggressive masculine posturing and bravado.

A rapper rhyming about raping women, or a person masturbating to rape-porn is a sick freak and a coward who seeks to dominate a woman because she is the weaker of the sexes, male-on-female violence is for weirdos.

I'm all for violent lyrics and warfare when necessary but as a man I can't condone or support violence against women and children.

LoL @ it's always the lamest dudes talking about raping people.
 
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Sunflowa Seeds;2545711 said:
Why does he remind me of MF Doom? Am I far off on that one?

I got that too actually...except he rhymes a bit more on beat than doom lol.
 
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by the way this album is pretty solid ...obviously some of these tracks are catered to a younger audience with the emphasis on rebeling agaisnt parents, schools and talk of rape and things that are suppose to be shocking and controversial ...the thing is if youve listened to music or just seen things in life in general the content that tyler uses to spark controversy isn't all that shocking ...now to cats that are 12-19 yeah it may be... so in those regards im unimpressed and can do without ....now as far as the lyricism, prodcution and concept goes i have grown to give dude a lot more credit than i did initially ..his production is dope and they have a signature sound in the same way that a wu-tang or a mobb deep did back in the 90's which is one of the things i think people refer to when bringing those comparisons up ...
 
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