Truth be told Kanye better than Dre

[TrillRussell]

Suge and Pac had beef with Snoop too..but you never heard them talking about how Snoop had A ghostwriter did you?.

 

[supergangster]

That's a damn lie without Dre it would not be Ice Cube, Snoop dogg, Eminem, Eazzy E, 50 Cent, Game G-Unit , the production he ggave to every rapper on deathrow

without kanye there would be no big sean, kid cudi lmao

 

[TrillRussell]

ummmm.... it is WELL KNOWN dr dre has put his name on numerous beats to get more money. I aint NEVER heard a soul say that about Kanye West.

Proof that doesnt involve anybody thats had beef with Dre. Ill wait......

What more proof do you need than members of DEATH ROW saying that he wasn't producing shit?..They'd know before somebody on the outside looking in don't you think?..What you looking for 1 of his friends to out him?..it's well Documented that Daz,Warren G,and Dj quik was producing beats that dre would pay credits for under the table..And post Death Row Scott Storch was producing shit that he was taking credit for..look it up

Yea let's listen to a bunch of bitter niggas talk about Dre being gay and takin credit for beats that weren't his cause he made the smartest decision in rap history to leave that label before they went to shit. That makes perfect sense.

I'm still waiting for proof......

So just because niggas got beef that means no truth can be told?..So anytime in Rap history where niggas had problems with eachother everything that was said was A lie simply because they had beef?.They gotta be best of friends in order for anything on that subject to be believable?.that makes sense.

lol Ok so if these niggas were gettin robbed of their beats where are the lawsuits? Surely after 20 yrs one of these niggas want they money for these incredible beats that they made and didn't get credit for right? Where are they?

They were getting paid under the table for the credits bruh lol..Lawsuits weren't needed because business was still being done...What part about that are you not understanding?

 

[TrillRussell]

That's a damn lie without Dre it would not be Ice Cube, Snoop dogg, Eminem, Eazzy E, 50 Cent, Game G-Unit , the production he ggave to every rapper on deathrow

without kanye there would be no big sean, kid cudi lmao

Actually if it wasn't for Eazy E it wouldn't be no Dre or Cube...he was the 1 funding the whole situation to begin with..but that's another story for another day...

 

[Stew]

ummmm.... it is WELL KNOWN dr dre has put his name on numerous beats to get more money. I aint NEVER heard a soul say that about Kanye West.

Proof that doesnt involve anybody thats had beef with Dre. Ill wait......

What more proof do you need than members of DEATH ROW saying that he wasn't producing shit?..They'd know before somebody on the outside looking in don't you think?..What you looking for 1 of his friends to out him?..it's well Documented that Daz,Warren G,and Dj quik was producing beats that dre would pay credits for under the table..And post Death Row Scott Storch was producing shit that he was taking credit for..look it up

Yea let's listen to a bunch of bitter niggas talk about Dre being gay and takin credit for beats that weren't his cause he made the smartest decision in rap history to leave that label before they went to shit. That makes perfect sense.

I'm still waiting for proof......

So just because niggas got beef that means no truth can be told?..So anytime in Rap history where niggas had problems with eachother everything that was said was A lie simply because they had beef?.They gotta be best of friends in order for anything on that subject to be believable?.that makes sense.

lol Ok so if these niggas were gettin robbed of their beats where are the lawsuits? Surely after 20 yrs one of these niggas want they money for these incredible beats that they made and didn't get credit for right? Where are they?

They were getting paid under the table for the credits bruh lol..Lawsuits weren't needed because business was still being done...What part about that are you not understanding?

No proof b, foh.

 

[Meta_Conscious]

Dre rarely drops anything but his taste in artists and eye for talent is impeccable. His track record is flawless - Snoop, Tha Dogg Pound, The D.O.C, Warren G, Nate Dogg, Eminem, 50 Cent, Kendrick Lamar/TDE. That's hard to go against LOLOL. Kanye does his thing too but I still think Ye has steps to go.

revisionists history... just forget about the original Aftermath huh?

 

[TrillRussell]

ummmm.... it is WELL KNOWN dr dre has put his name on numerous beats to get more money. I aint NEVER heard a soul say that about Kanye West.

Proof that doesnt involve anybody thats had beef with Dre. Ill wait......

What more proof do you need than members of DEATH ROW saying that he wasn't producing shit?..They'd know before somebody on the outside looking in don't you think?..What you looking for 1 of his friends to out him?..it's well Documented that Daz,Warren G,and Dj quik was producing beats that dre would pay credits for under the table..And post Death Row Scott Storch was producing shit that he was taking credit for..look it up

Yea let's listen to a bunch of bitter niggas talk about Dre being gay and takin credit for beats that weren't his cause he made the smartest decision in rap history to leave that label before they went to shit. That makes perfect sense.

I'm still waiting for proof......

So just because niggas got beef that means no truth can be told?..So anytime in Rap history where niggas had problems with eachother everything that was said was A lie simply because they had beef?.They gotta be best of friends in order for anything on that subject to be believable?.that makes sense.

lol Ok so if these niggas were gettin robbed of their beats where are the lawsuits? Surely after 20 yrs one of these niggas want they money for these incredible beats that they made and didn't get credit for right? Where are they?

They were getting paid under the table for the credits bruh lol..Lawsuits weren't needed because business was still being done...What part about that are you not understanding?

No proof b, foh.

Nah niggas are laying out facts..but you just disregarding 'em because the niggas that said it weren't his friends lol..like I said..Suge and Pac had beef with Snoop too..why they aint come with the claim of he had ghost writers?

 

[soul rattler]

Dre got a flawless track record? I dare you to listen to Eminem "My Name Is" instrumental with a straight face.

 

[illedout]

@Stew

look at the production credits for "2001"..

The Melman has production credits for these songs..

"Still D.R.E." (featuring Snoop Dogg)

"Big Ego's" (featuring Hittman)

"What's the Difference" (featuring Eminem and Xzibit)

"The Next Episode" (featuring Snoop Dogg, Kurupt and Nate Dogg)

"Bitch Niggaz" (featuring Snoop Dogg, Hittman and Six-Two)

"Housewife" (featuring Kurupt and Hittman)

"Ackrite" (featuring Hittman)

Scott Storch has production credits on a few songs on this album as well..

That's just 1 album..

Imagine if we dug a lil deeper..

 

[illedout]

@‌Stew

Mel-Man

Mel was recognized as a Pittsburgh hip-hop legend,

long before making his imprint on the game by co-producing with Dr. Dre from the mid-90s to early 2000s.

Older heads acknowledge his involvement in the Hardcore Crew.

Mel remained behind the scenes throughout much of his career.

However, that didn’t stop him from influencing two of the most influential producers,

in the history of hip-hop, Dr. Dre and RZA..

Ok?

The Mel-Man signed a deal with Dre as an in-house producer..

Dre was putting his name on the Melman's beats since the 90's..

lol that article did not prove that. I'll go a step further and let you hear from Mel-Mans mouth who's the best producer.

"These are all from dubcnn where Mel-Man posts. Its a great insight into Dr Dre...

Q: Who is a better producer, Dre or Quik?

A: That is a question I get on this board and in public a lot. I don't know why but I will give you my opinion. Dre is hands down the better "producer". Before all you DJ quik fans jump all over me, please note that Quik is easily on of the best producers in all of music and I looove his sound. like Sven said quik is a lot like Dre. While both have sampled, or replayed and expanded like Dre did in the ruthless and [rip] row years, both dre and quik try to create MUSIC using mostly live instrumentations. Both have used actual live drums on a number of records, as well as live ba## of all types, pianos, keys, horns, guitars, flutes, sax, xzylophone, etc. Quik and Dre have different sounds for the most part but they are almost identical in how they hire musicians for most of the actual played music. neither really play any instruments. both are incredible on the drum machine and both can play keyboards, quik is arguably a little better than dre on the keys while Dre is agruably better on the drum machine. I do disagree with quik being a one man band. If you listen to Quik's first four albums you mostly hear the incredible Robert Bacon playing most, if not all of the instruments. Bacon is Quik's secret weapon. that doesn't take anything away from Dj quik but I am giving credit where credit is due. Robert is simply one of the best musicians to ever be involved in hip hop. Dre has discovered and/or used some incredible musicians during his career - Colin Wolfe, Mike Simms, Sean Thomas, T green, Scott Storch, Camara Kamron - to name a few. Dre gives all of the musicians he has used a lot of credit for being a big part of his success. Quik has also had other great musicans besides Fonksta Bacon too. The fact is that Dre and Quik are the top producers in rap MUSIC because they create music and hire some incredible musicians to help them bring their ideas to musical life.

Why is Dre a better producer, in my humble opinion, than quik? Being a PRODUCER is so much more than being a musician. Only in rap is a producer expected to play instruments on tracks. Most music producers don't play anything on the records. Great producers do however have the "ear" and understand melodies, and how best to mazimize an instruments and the musicians potential. Dre has one of the best ears there is. believe me he has made me a better musician than I ever thought i could be because he knows exactly how to tweak what I play from good to great. Producers coach, discover talent, mentor, shape, mold, compose, create, adjust, innovate, arrainge, focus, orchestrate, direct and so much more. Dre does all of that, and as a total package does that as well as or better than any producer in modern music history.

Quik hasn't really changed his sound ever. He was forced to after Robert left, but its been pretty consistent in direction(this is not a criticism of quik, this is the style he is so good at, and the style we all love). Dre has changed his music and the sound of music itself more than once. With NWA and being the main creative force behind Ruthless records he helped change the sound of rap music and what could be said on records. With The Chronic he was the leader in bringing a fresh sound - g-funk - to music. If you bought that album when it came out in dec. 92 it blew you away as it was unlike anything you had ever heard before. The chronic also brought gangsta rap to the ma##es and made it a cultural phenomenon (along with saving Interscope from folding). When Dre left to start Aftermath he changed the course of music forever (again) with the discovery of eminem. he also helped make 50 and now game into superstars as well.

Dre has discovered some of the biggest artists in music history and as a producer he molded those artists by taking them from unpolished diamonds to polished muliplatinum selling artists. Quik has never really discovered anyone who blew up. As a producer Dre works harder than anyone else and demands more from his artists than anyone else. He mentors artists and maximizes their talent. He has the incredible ability to bring the best out of any artist and helps them to perform at incredible levels or career best levels. And I haven't even brought out the fact that albums Dre has produced on have easily eclipsed the 100 million mark in sales. Quik hasn't even hit 10 million. But I don't really want to use record sales as a factor in determining how good a producer is. Jimmy Iovine calls Dre the most influential record producer in music history. While I won't put him alone at the top he's definetly on the short list.

In the end everyone has their own opinion. There is no right or wrong. if you think quik is the best great. if he's your favorite great. Quik is an incredible talent and a better musician but I just don't think its fair to compare him to Dre as a PRODUCER. Dre, as a PRODUCER, is as good as there has ever been. He is the Michael Jordan of Rap. But like I said i could be completely wrong. Just enjoy the talents of each man as you won't see the likes of them very often ever again"

You would say that too if Dre was cutting you checks..

 

[_Goldie_]

That's a damn lie without Dre it would not be Ice Cube, Snoop dogg, Eminem, Eazzy E, 50 Cent, Game G-Unit , the production he ggave to every rapper on deathrow

without kanye there would be no big sean, kid cudi lmao

Actually if it wasn't for Eazy E it wouldn't be no Dre or Cube...he was the 1 funding the whole situation to begin with..but that's another story for another day...

Dre was already an established artist with the world class wreckin crew.

 

[TrillRussell]

That's a damn lie without Dre it would not be Ice Cube, Snoop dogg, Eminem, Eazzy E, 50 Cent, Game G-Unit , the production he ggave to every rapper on deathrow

without kanye there would be no big sean, kid cudi lmao

Actually if it wasn't for Eazy E it wouldn't be no Dre or Cube...he was the 1 funding the whole situation to begin with..but that's another story for another day...

Dre was already an established artist with the world class wreckin crew.

eh...depends on what you call established...if he was on already..They wouldn't have needed Eazy E's money and he could've put the bread up himself..

 

[_Goldie_]

Dre needed Suge's money and even he needed money from other cats to get Death Row started. Money and artistry are 2 different lanes. Cant say there wouldnt be a Dre with no eazy when he was already big on the west coast.

 

[TrillRussell]

Dre needed Suge's money and even he needed money from other cats to get Death Row started. Money and artistry are 2 different lanes. Cant say there wouldnt be a Dre with no eazy when he was already big on the west coast.

Money fuels the industry...You don't got money backing you in more cases than not your art won't be heard..and maybe he was big on the West...but After He got Eazy he went Worldwide..it's A difference in being A local joker and A worldwide known superstar.That's what I was speaking to...

 

[Lebong James]

yes but dre is up there

 

[Stew]

ummmm.... it is WELL KNOWN dr dre has put his name on numerous beats to get more money. I aint NEVER heard a soul say that about Kanye West.

Proof that doesnt involve anybody thats had beef with Dre. Ill wait......

What more proof do you need than members of DEATH ROW saying that he wasn't producing shit?..They'd know before somebody on the outside looking in don't you think?..What you looking for 1 of his friends to out him?..it's well Documented that Daz,Warren G,and Dj quik was producing beats that dre would pay credits for under the table..And post Death Row Scott Storch was producing shit that he was taking credit for..look it up

Yea let's listen to a bunch of bitter niggas talk about Dre being gay and takin credit for beats that weren't his cause he made the smartest decision in rap history to leave that label before they went to shit. That makes perfect sense.

I'm still waiting for proof......

So just because niggas got beef that means no truth can be told?..So anytime in Rap history where niggas had problems with eachother everything that was said was A lie simply because they had beef?.They gotta be best of friends in order for anything on that subject to be believable?.that makes sense.

lol Ok so if these niggas were gettin robbed of their beats where are the lawsuits? Surely after 20 yrs one of these niggas want they money for these incredible beats that they made and didn't get credit for right? Where are they?

They were getting paid under the table for the credits bruh lol..Lawsuits weren't needed because business was still being done...What part about that are you not understanding?

No proof b, foh.

Nah niggas are laying out facts..but you just disregarding 'em because the niggas that said it weren't his friends lol..like I said..Suge and Pac had beef with Snoop too..why they aint come with the claim of he had ghost writers?

lol @ Facts with no proof. Sorry shit don't work that way bruh. U ain't doing nothin but tellin me accusations from bitter ex workers who didn't even bother to file lawsuits. Fuck I look like accusing one of Hip Hops biggest pioneers cause some disgruntled Death Row employees of all people said so. Smh.

Oh yea Daz sure didn't bother to work under the table when he sued Suge's ass LOL

 

[mryounggun]

I been felt like that. I'm not a HUGE fan of Dre. I never understood why he gets the crown of best hip hop producer ever. I like a lot of his shit. But I don't LOVE any of it. I can't really think of many Dre beats that made me think 'yeah, dude fucking blacked out on this shit!'.

'Ye got a few of them shits. And I'm not even a huge Kanye fan like that.

 

[Mr.LV]

I prefer Kanye West production over Dr.Dre's

 

[antarticp]

Dre needed Suge's money and even he needed money from other cats to get Death Row started. Money and artistry are 2 different lanes. Cant say there wouldnt be a Dre with no eazy when he was already big on the west coast.

Money fuels the industry...You don't got money backing you in more cases than not your art won't be heard..and maybe he was big on the West...but After He got Eazy he went Worldwide..it's A difference in being A local joker and A worldwide known superstar.That's what I was speaking to...

tru but these days with the internet and free marketing thru the net ... that is slowing changing .....

 

[TrillRussell]

ummmm.... it is WELL KNOWN dr dre has put his name on numerous beats to get more money. I aint NEVER heard a soul say that about Kanye West.

Proof that doesnt involve anybody thats had beef with Dre. Ill wait......

What more proof do you need than members of DEATH ROW saying that he wasn't producing shit?..They'd know before somebody on the outside looking in don't you think?..What you looking for 1 of his friends to out him?..it's well Documented that Daz,Warren G,and Dj quik was producing beats that dre would pay credits for under the table..And post Death Row Scott Storch was producing shit that he was taking credit for..look it up

Yea let's listen to a bunch of bitter niggas talk about Dre being gay and takin credit for beats that weren't his cause he made the smartest decision in rap history to leave that label before they went to shit. That makes perfect sense.

I'm still waiting for proof......

So just because niggas got beef that means no truth can be told?..So anytime in Rap history where niggas had problems with eachother everything that was said was A lie simply because they had beef?.They gotta be best of friends in order for anything on that subject to be believable?.that makes sense.

lol Ok so if these niggas were gettin robbed of their beats where are the lawsuits? Surely after 20 yrs one of these niggas want they money for these incredible beats that they made and didn't get credit for right? Where are they?

They were getting paid under the table for the credits bruh lol..Lawsuits weren't needed because business was still being done...What part about that are you not understanding?

No proof b, foh.

Nah niggas are laying out facts..but you just disregarding 'em because the niggas that said it weren't his friends lol..like I said..Suge and Pac had beef with Snoop too..why they aint come with the claim of he had ghost writers?

lol @ Facts with no proof. Sorry shit don't work that way bruh. U ain't doing nothin but tellin me accusations from bitter ex workers who didn't even bother to file lawsuits. Fuck I look like accusing one of Hip Hops biggest pioneers cause some disgruntled Death Row employees of all people said so. Smh.

Oh yea Daz sure didn't bother to work under the table when he sued Suge's ass LOL

That's the thing..you blinded by Dre's status...You got The BOSS of Death Row saying the same shit the bitter "workers" were saying..I can pull up the articles to show you that as well...and No lawsuits were filed because checks were being cut..contracts were being signed...what you gone say the Boss don't know wtf was going on with his company?..lol c'mon dog..