"Transformers: Dark of the Moon"

[rapmastermind]

this has always bugged me,

people feel that because we accept the suspension of disbelief , we should accept deus ex machina

Two complete differently concepts, that are not one in the same. Yes, we can accept that a man can fly, and alien robots from space can talk.

Long as this has been established with reasons and why. But to ask your audience to accept inextricable problems suddenly and abruptly solved with no explanation what soever, characters for no reason given acting out against their established behavior pattern , goes against the basic elements of good storytelling.

Whether it was meant to appeal to children or adults.

So it really is a cop out to say ,”well you believe a robot from space can talk, why can’t believe that a lil white chick can call a tyrannical egomaniac a “Bitch”, and still live to tell about it?” “You believe a robot can “transform”, why can’t you believe Bumblebee can go from being free & driving around in one scene than, suddenly he’s held prisoner in the next? “

So no it's not about looking for Godfather level of acting or directing but a cohesive story plot and a sense of continuity is not to much to ask in a movie regardless of what the premise of the movie is.

Again It depends on the movie. Going into a "Transfomers" films you should know what you are going to get. It's not going to be great acting, it's not going to be a mind blowing story line. The point is giant robots from outer space kicking each other asses with a little military element and a Teenager/College kid and his girl element. That's it. Expecting more is over thinking it in my view. That's the problem with the critics, they are all on Rotten Tomatoes bashing "Moon" like it's the worst movie ever, they gave it a 36% but low and behold if you look at the fan rating it's still at 90%. What is it the fans understood that the critics don't? it's the fact they know what they are getting from this type of film. If I'm seeing "Malcom X" or "The Godfather" of course I'm going to have a higher expectation about acting, story and other aspects. But this is not that type of film. This is what some would call "Mindless" fun, it's more about the visuals and effects than the actual story line. Even the cartoon for Transformers didn't have no great story lines, it's was mostly about the autobots fighting the decepticons, that was pretty much it.

 

[tdoto88]

Again It depends on the movie. Going into a "Transfomers" films you should know what you are going to get. It's not going to be great acting, it's not going to be a mind blowing story line. The point is giant robots from outer space kicking each other asses with a little military element and a Teenager/College kid and his girl element. That's it. Expecting more is over thinking it in my view. That's the problem with the critics, they are all on Rotten Tomatoes bashing "Moon" like it's the worst movie ever, they gave it a 36% but low and behold if you look at the fan rating it's still at 90%. What is it the fans understood that the critics don't? it's the fact they know what they are getting from this type of film. If I'm seeing "Malcom X" or "The Godfather" of course I'm going to have a higher expectation about acting, story and other aspects. But this is not that type of film. This is what some would call "Mindless" fun, it's more about the visuals and effects than the actual story line. Even the cartoon for Transformers didn't have no great story lines, it's was mostly about the autobots fighting the decepticons, that was pretty much it.

the way these ppl talk on here you'd swear the Transformers cartoon series was written by Shakespeare or Charles Dickens

 

[Recaptimus_Prime360]

Again It depends on the movie. Going into a "Transfomers" films you should know what you are going to get. It's not going to be great acting, it's not going to be a mind blowing story line. The point is giant robots from outer space kicking each other asses with a little military element and a Teenager/College kid and his girl element. That's it. Expecting more is over thinking it in my view. That's the problem with the critics, they are all on Rotten Tomatoes bashing "Moon" like it's the worst movie ever, they gave it a 36% but low and behold if you look at the fan rating it's still at 90%. What is it the fans understood that the critics don't? it's the fact they know what they are getting from this type of film. If I'm seeing "Malcom X" or "The Godfather" of course I'm going to have a higher expectation about acting, story and other aspects. But this is not that type of film. This is what some would call "Mindless" fun, it's more about the visuals and effects than the actual story line. Even the cartoon for Transformers didn't have no great story lines, it's was mostly about the autobots fighting the decepticons, that was pretty much it.

Couldn't have said it better myself. Niggas actin like Denzel, Di Caprio, or Cruz was in this mofo lol! But Megatron did look like a straight up bum lol.

 

[VulcanRaven]

Couldn't have said it better myself. Niggas actin like Denzel, Di Caprio, or Cruz was in this mofo lol! But Megatron did look like a straight up bum lol.

ROFL nigga was hanging on the corner begging people for spare change to buy some energon cubes.

 

[angelsmith90]

I have seen the transformers movie and it is a must watch movie and i wish to watch it again.

 

[KeepOnPushing]

This is the best one in my opinion out of the 3 , i still get irked at some of the stuff in the movie due to being a hardcore fan growing up but overall 3 was tight

i've already watched it like 4 other times on the laptop as well.....

while some of us are hardcore fans i will say this tho' i think we tend to want to be over spoiled, because who in their right mind would have ever thought they could have even pulled this shit off as far as making it a movie that wasn't a cartoon??......thats what kind of puts me back in my place as a fan cuz no way in hell way back in the day i would have thought that "Trasformers put into a movie? how the fuck they gonna do that??" ....

i mean shit has came a long way when u actually relax as a fan and think about it , cuz i thought transformers would have been one of the hardest things to ever pull off on the big screen ...

 

[The Lonious Monk]

the way these ppl talk on here you'd swear the Transformers cartoon series was written by Shakespeare or Charles Dickens

Exactly, what the hell is wrong with people and their stupid ass expectations. Don't get me wrong, the Transformers mythos does have a good enough foundation to where a serious movie with good storytelling could be made. I'm not disputing that. However, this is the third movie. If you haven't realized that they clearly aren't going that route, you are slow. The movies are only meant to be campy high octane action movies starting huge transforming robots. Are there silly plot points? Yes, hell, the whole freaking plot of this movie is a mess. Is there some outright silliness in the movie? Yes, their insistance of having these big robots release red "bloodlike" liquid and display "aging" characteristics despite the fact that they are robots is kinda stupid. That said, if you let stuff like that stop you from enjoying the movie, you're missing the whole point of the movie. It's not supposed to be some immaculate drama with impeccable storytelling. It's simply supposed to have enough of a plot to use as a vehicle for the action and special effects. That's it, and for what it is, it was good. If that's not what you want in a movie. If you want a deeper storyline, less plotholes, and more quality characterizations, why would you even go to see this movie. Shouldn't you have learned from the first two that you probably weren't going to get any of that?

 

[Dupac]

yo, if your a avid fan of something, you're gonna have higher expectations than a casual fan....

any whenever something comes out that's a representation of that.. those avid fans are gonna be checking for it...

 

[tdoto88]

Exactly, what the hell is wrong with people and their stupid ass expectations. Don't get me wrong, the Transformers mythos does have a good enough foundation to where a serious movie with good storytelling could be made. I'm not disputing that. However, this is the third movie. If you haven't realized that they clearly aren't going that route, you are slow. The movies are only meant to be campy high octane action movies starting huge transforming robots. Are there silly plot points? Yes, hell, the whole freaking plot of this movie is a mess. Is there some outright silliness in the movie? Yes, their insistance of having these big robots release red "bloodlike" liquid and display "aging" characteristics despite the fact that they are robots is kinda stupid. That said, if you let stuff like that stop you from enjoying the movie, you're missing the whole point of the movie. It's not supposed to be some immaculate drama with impeccable storytelling. It's simply supposed to have enough of a plot to use as a vehicle for the action and special effects. That's it, and for what it is, it was good. If that's not what you want in a movie. If you want a deeper storyline, less plotholes, and more quality characterizations, why would you even go to see this movie. Shouldn't you have learned from the first two that you probably weren't going to get any of that?

on point post.........but these niggas dont hear you tho

 

[rapmastermind]

This is the best one in my opinion out of the 3 , i still get irked at some of the stuff in the movie due to being a hardcore fan growing up but overall 3 was tight

i've already watched it like 4 other times on the laptop as well.....

while some of us are hardcore fans i will say this tho' i think we tend to want to be over spoiled, because who in their right mind would have ever thought they could have even pulled this shit off as far as making it a movie that wasn't a cartoon??......thats what kind of puts me back in my place as a fan cuz no way in hell way back in the day i would have thought that "Trasformers put into a movie? how the fuck they gonna do that??" ....

i mean shit has came a long way when u actually relax as a fan and think about it , cuz i thought transformers would have been one of the hardest things to ever pull off on the big screen ...

And this was my point, not even after the "Jurassic Park" Effects I thought they could pull off a real Transformers movie. And they did it, 3 times. And the effects and transforming got better and better. "G.I. Joe" the movie did not live up like this has. Now it's not perfect and it didn't follow the G1 series 100%, but overall it's a decent series that only made the "Transformers" Mythology bigger. A whole new generation of Transformers fans have been born. It's one thing if this was animation. But this is a 100% Live Motion Picture and look at what they were able to accomplished special effects and action wise. This is a great sign for the future to me.

 

[a.mann]

smh

Y’all got your feathers in a ruffle because you think I’m being to hard on the movie even tho, it’s pretty much conceded that film had:

Bad directing

Bad writing

Bad plotting

Bad pacing

Bad editing

Bad acting

Bad characterizing

Bad dialogue

Bad continuity

Basically missing everything I enjoy about watching any movie,regardless of what it is about

(outside the stunning visual effects and action) this film did not have.

Yet some how it’s should still be immune to criticism and scrutiny because it's Transformers? I’m sorry fellas but I just can’t follow this “logic”. The actually premise is irrelevant because a well put together movie is a well put together movie.

 

[VulcanRaven]

smh

Y’all got your feathers in a ruffle because you think I’m being to hard on the movie even tho, it’s pretty much conceded that film had:

Bad directing
Bad writing
Bad plotting
Bad pacing
Bad editing
Bad acting
Bad characterizing
Bad dialogue
Bad continuity

Basically missing everything I enjoy about watching any movie,regardless of what it is about
(outside the stunning visual effects and action) this film did not have.
Yet some how it’s should still be immune to criticism and scrutiny because it's Transformers? I’m sorry fellas but I just can’t follow this “logic”. The actually premise is irrelevant because a well put together movie is a well put together movie.

You cannot be serious about the directing.Bay is top 5 all time after this movie and I am not a Bay fan like that.

 

[The Lonious Monk]

smh

Y’all got your feathers in a ruffle because you think I’m being to hard on the movie even tho, it’s pretty much conceded that film had:

Bad directing

Bad writing

Bad plotting

Bad pacing

Bad editing

Bad acting

Bad characterizing

Bad dialogue

Bad continuity

Basically missing everything I enjoy about watching any movie,regardless of what it is about

(outside the stunning visual effects and action) this film did not have.

Yet some how it’s should still be immune to criticism and scrutiny because it's Transformers? I’m sorry fellas but I just can’t follow this “logic”. The actually premise is irrelevant because a well put together movie is a well put together movie.

Who conceded any of that?

The directing wasn't bad for what it was. It's an over the top action flick, and the directing was great for that.

Bad writing, plotting, and continuity are all the same thing basically. The acting wasn't horrible. It wasn't broadway, but it wasn't particularly bad. The characterizatons were decent too. Bad characterizing wasn't the problem. Lack of characterization in many cases was. The pacing was slow at the beginning, but after it got moving it was great.

You're just being overcritical. It's clear from your posts, you wanted the move to be something it simply never was intended to be.

 

[a.mann]

Who conceded any of that?

The directing wasn't bad for what it was. It's an over the top action flick, and the directing was great for that.

Bad writing, plotting, and continuity are all the same thing basically. The acting wasn't horrible. It wasn't broadway, but it wasn't particularly bad. The characterizatons were decent too. Bad characterizing wasn't the problem. Lack of characterization in many cases was. The pacing was slow at the beginning, but after it got moving it was great.

You're just being overcritical. It's clear from your posts, you wanted the move to be something it simply never was intended to be.

yeah....better

 

[blackkevblazini]

I got a bone to pick with Transformers Dark of the Moon, and it's not really with the movie, which was pretty big, overblown and stupid but enjoyable enough just to see what dumb thing is gonna happen next as usual with these Transformers movies.

It's with that fucking chick. The new girlfriend. Rosie Huntington-Whiteley.

That chick is too fucking pretty. Like unbelievably pretty.

You have to suspend disbelief that a regular ass douchebag like Shia Labeouf is tapping that chicks ass moreso than you do at the thought that a Chevrolet Camaro can turn into a 30 foot tall robot.Everything about that girl is so picturesquely perfect it's just WRONG. Every time the camera is on her shes making a runway face.The perfect bitch even STANDS like a model.She always looks like she's striking a pose.Her smile isn't even a real fucking smile....it looks like the fucking Blue Steel from Zoolander.She's so pretty she looks damn near fake.CGI even. I'm really supposed to believe that this unobtainable looking bitch would step within 100 feet of Shia Labeouf's peice of shit car????? fuck outta here. Megan Fox was fine, but she looked more slut around the way that would fuck any dude with a little money in his pocket kinda fine.This chick looks like you would have to show her your bank statements before you even got a phone number.

Michael Bay could have cast someone more realistic in this role. But, it's Transforners, where everything has to be as big, overblown and stupid as possible.

 

[MR.CJ]

i just watched it. good movie.

i can't wait till the 4th one comes out.

 

[inthacut]

was a good watch but i expected more....5/10

 

[rapmastermind]

3 WEEKS IN:

Lifetime Grosses
Domestic: $308,775,871 39.4%
+ Foreign: $473,988,648 60.6%
= Worldwide: $782,764,519

Still doing very well for the 3rd film of a franchise. "Transformers" became the 1st film of 2011 to cross 300 Million. Also the Blu-ray date has been released:

RELEASE DATE: 11/15/11

 

[KeepOnPushing]

Also People have their mind made up before they even watch/listen to anything, they just wanna bitch regardless..

 

[Recaptimus_Prime360]

Also People have their mind made up before they even watch/listen to anything, they just wanna bitch regardless..

exactly. so why even bother go see it. that's what i don't understand. a lot of these posters in here expressed how they hate bay, shia, and the tf franchise. YET, they still paid to go see the movie. only to bitch about what they knew they didn't like....wth????? does that make sense.

it's like you know a stove is hot. you know what could happen if u place your hand on that stove. you do it anyway. get severely burned. but get mad at the stove for being hot. where's the logic? niggas went in thinkin they were goin to see an oscar worthy flick lol.