Top 5 Issues Facing The Black Community

[desertrain10]

@zzombie is right

Get over your feelings

I don't get y'all

We've actually made gains thanks in great part to the civil rights movement, wouldn't you agree?

College enrollment up, teen pregnancy down, poverty down, crime down, etc

Still a ways to go, but let's acknowledge how far we've come in a very short period of time

That said, no one of intelligence today would argue that those organizers of the civil rights movement were enablers or should have put the Montgomery bus boycott on the back burner to focus on black on black violence back then though murder rates were higher in the 60s

Rightfully they focused squarely on structural racism, the most consistent and overpowering impediment to blk success in america, and the thread that connects every era of its history

Same as what we should be doing today

All that struggle during the civil rights era was needed but we don't live in the 1960's anymore it is 2016 and applying what worked in the past is a losing strategy. That's why groups like BLM will ULTIMATELY accomplish nothing. Today we need self reflection and self improvement or else everything that happened during the civil rights era will be meaningless.

REMOVING STRUCTURAL RACISM is not going to equal dollars in your pocket??? Black people have made social gains but our economic and political gains have not kept us with everyone else. It's not sufficient enough to glory in the fact that we have it better than our grandparents if other people are doing better than us then we have work to do.

COMPARE YOURSELF to the white women of today and not the black women of 40 years ago

Lol

So our faith in the effectiveness of political and social activism should hinge not on the success of the civil rights movement, but rather on the supposed ineffectiveness of groups like BLM, an organization not even 5 yrs old. Never mind the national push for body cameras, sharpened focus on state attorney races, push for scaling back prosecutorial power, etc

Not to say the civil rights movement and subsequent organizing has been without flaw, but the reason why we haven't made any substantial gains in wealth is clear:

-Historically we have been denied access to higher education and training for skilled trades

-Discrimination in the job market, banking and housing market

-We are disproportionately poor and poor ppl pay more for just about everything

-Debtors prisons

-Blks more likely to have to take out a loan to pay for college

That said, removing sructural racism will help keep money in our pockets so we can begin to think about building wealth, investing, starting a business, etc

For instance, In its report on the Ferguson, Mo., Police Department, the Justice Department found that officers disproportionately stopped and ticketed blk citizens. For a “manner of walking” violation, it was $302; for “high grass and weeds,” $531

You think that shit only happens there?

A $302 ticket can be devastating for someone who is experiencing a medical emergency or was recently laid off work

Yea let's talk about how capitalism's cycles of depression and recession have also long contributed to ongoing social injustice and the stunting of blk wealth /stunting blk middle class

Multiple recessions that struck america throughout the late 70s and 80s, for instance, wiped out a lot of the Blk middle class that began to surface in the 50s, 60s

And our most recent recession disporpotionately impacted minorities

Then you got politicians cutting the funding to the very social programs that were meant to keep families afloat during these times

Don't get me started on how the cost of medical care has stunted Blk wealth. Thanx privatized health care

So yea closing the wealth gap is going to take way more then self reflection on our parts

 

[desertrain10]

@zzombie is right

Get over your feelings

I don't get y'all

We've actually made gains thanks in great part to the civil rights movement, wouldn't you agree?

College enrollment up, teen pregnancy down, poverty down, crime down, etc

Still a ways to go, but let's acknowledge how far we've come in a very short period of time

That said, no one of intelligence today would argue that those organizers of the civil rights movement were enablers or should have put the Montgomery bus boycott on the back burner to focus on black on black violence back then though murder rates were higher in the 60s

Rightfully they focused squarely on structural racism, the most consistent and overpowering impediment to blk success in america, and the thread that connects every era of its history

Same as what we should be doing today

Not arguing those points.

Progress for some, what about median and mean? What's really changed? Access to unsecured credit?

There's internal shit we have to figure out. That's where I agree with @zzombie

I thank God I was partly educated in JA, I never felt I was less than and quickly got over white racism. The civil rights made room, the space for what's possible today, I would NEVER insult them or say it's in vain. However, black people are our own worst enemy, instead of focusing on white adulation, we NEED self care and self-help. The median american black family when you take out the family car is worth $1,200. If that don't make you angry then we not in the same fight.

Maybe I saw it with less sting than zombie but it's the same shit

Who is looking for white adulation???? Lol

I'm just proposing we continue what they started back in the 60s and focus on changing public policy, law ...rather than on the actions of a small segment of our community

Especially considering most Blk ppl are hard working, family oriented, and value education

Unless you seriously believe the actions of the few are what is really holding us back

And I like how you just gonna sneeze at the gains we've made in college enrollment, entrepreneurship, lowering teen pregnancy, crime is down, etc

We are behind in wealth...which is an understatement and that makes me angry...but slavery ended a little over 150 years ago ...then we had 100 yrs of Jim Crow after that, which I could argue is still alive

But I digress, maybe you do believe most Blk do are lazy, ignorant, criminal, etc

We can get to a middle ground. @desertrain10

Here's my QuickTake:

•you're not getting reparations

•you're not getting acres and mule

Focus on getting increasing wealth and its building blocks

• education - fuck teachers union, anywhere that has negros, should have charter schools (some of them are trash but need state supervision). Need even more blacks to get 4 year degrees. We playing catch up, it can't be the same avg as the population. Which mean we need to get black men pulling their weight

•focus on entrepreneurship/self employment - access to capital an issue? Start small. Why aren't there more plumbers, mechanics, home renovators etc to go along with doctors lawyers dentists etc

•invest your money in land, real estate, stocks, bonds

•two parent households should again be the norm

•vigilante justice for those not acting up

One home at a time.

I agree, building up blk families and wealth is key...same as making smarter investments

We should play a larger role in keeping our neighborhoods safe

I just don't know how possible that is, building Blk wealth, without first addressing the structural barriers and discriminatory practices that prevent us from buying property, starting businesses, going to college, etc

@desertrain10

Slow and steady, this will take generations. I agree with Boyce Watkins on this, our job is to plant a seed. You may be the first in your family to graduate college or to start a small business, start small, watch it grow. You don't need laws to change to grow black wealth from median of $1,200 to $10,000. Shit is appalling

Eh

You don't need laws to change, but it will help tremendously

 

[MazterChef]

No. 1 problem in the black community is Christianity..

Been exploitin and pacifying niggas since the slave ships..

"Yeh i may not have shit but i got jesus so tgats good enough for me." ass niggas..

"god has a plan so i aint go let it worry me." muthafuckas..

"god will not givd me more then i can bare." idiots. smmfh

dubai is very very religious

That's not black people try again

so specifically black people are affected by religion wtf

 

[Olorun22]

can you niggas leave religion alone for 2 fucking minutes??? hatred of religion is just a more modern excuse black people have stumbled upon avoid our real issues, it's just another scapegoat

It's gives false hope that the problem and its an excuse for black problems

Blaming religion is such a lazy cop out, imo. Seems more to do with ego and hatred of religion more than anything else. Shit, blaming most "other" external things, let alone religion, just seems so myopic to me.

Uh huh so I was on Facebook right and I seen a post about how can we stop police brutality and guess what the answer was?

pray??

Put it in gods hand??

Vengence is the lords??! lol

bingo

 

[CapitalB]

can you niggas leave religion alone for 2 fucking minutes??? hatred of religion is just a more modern excuse black people have stumbled upon avoid our real issues, it's just another scapegoat

It's gives false hope that the problem and its an excuse for black problems

Blaming religion is such a lazy cop out, imo. Seems more to do with ego and hatred of religion more than anything else. Shit, blaming most "other" external things, let alone religion, just seems so myopic to me.

Uh huh so I was on Facebook right and I seen a post about how can we stop police brutality and guess what the answer was?

pray??

Put it in gods hand??

Vengence is the lords??! lol

bingo

lol I knew it!!

thats a nigga answer to everything. Smmfh

 

[UnderMiSensi]

Issue 1: Lack of Capital

Issue 2: Lack of Capital

Issue 3: Lack of Capital

Issue 4: Lack of Capital

Issue 5: Lack of Capital

I know what people are gonna say, "oh well even if you got capital and wealth you gotta be educated.". I say what the fuck ever, the reason why other races get ahead is because they pull their money together to invest in each other whether they think the person is gonna fail or not. Say 100 fail but 5 make, well then those five could still employ the rest who aren't business savvy but severely need jobs. You'll have more Blacks with business and financial sense to teach other black people so we won't constantly be an economic punching bag. If black people pulled their resources together and invested in each other then we could have fucking foundation. Not that circular fail bullshit of get a education to be a debt slave shit either, I'm talking about starting industries taking money from other races by selling them products/services, but investing the money into black people via lobbying, angel investing/venture capital, loans or whatever.


There's too many full of shit people who know they don't give a fuck about black people getting ahead. You can tell by the ones who bring up everything except for building wealth for black people only and how everyone got ahead by building their wealth at the expense of black people, and still are (I'm talking to all you be religious, follow the rules, get education and a job clueless ass Negroes)

 

[Olorun22]

Lol, and? C'mon, we've all heard that "argument" before. I just find it weak for, imo, obvious reasons. It's old hat.

so specifically black people are affected by religion wtf

White people=Christianity

Arabs= Islam

Asian= Buddha

Indians=Hinduism

Black people=Islam and Christianity

How can people built with two different ideology that goes against each other?

 

[jono]

Lol @ 32 different topics floating in here. Niggas are a full blown mess

 

[Recaptimus_Prime360]

Didn't watch LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL

Lookin at some of the previous posts, I'm guessing the vid isn't worth watching due shuckin & jivin.

 

[zzombie]

@zzombie is right

Get over your feelings

I don't get y'all

We've actually made gains thanks in great part to the civil rights movement, wouldn't you agree?

College enrollment up, teen pregnancy down, poverty down, crime down, etc

Still a ways to go, but let's acknowledge how far we've come in a very short period of time

That said, no one of intelligence today would argue that those organizers of the civil rights movement were enablers or should have put the Montgomery bus boycott on the back burner to focus on black on black violence back then though murder rates were higher in the 60s

Rightfully they focused squarely on structural racism, the most consistent and overpowering impediment to blk success in america, and the thread that connects every era of its history

Same as what we should be doing today

All that struggle during the civil rights era was needed but we don't live in the 1960's anymore it is 2016 and applying what worked in the past is a losing strategy. That's why groups like BLM will ULTIMATELY accomplish nothing. Today we need self reflection and self improvement or else everything that happened during the civil rights era will be meaningless.

REMOVING STRUCTURAL RACISM is not going to equal dollars in your pocket??? Black people have made social gains but our economic and political gains have not kept us with everyone else. It's not sufficient enough to glory in the fact that we have it better than our grandparents if other people are doing better than us then we have work to do.

COMPARE YOURSELF to the white women of today and not the black women of 40 years ago

Lol

So our faith in the effectiveness of political and social activism should hinge not on the success of the civil rights movement, but rather on the supposed ineffectiveness of groups like BLM, an organization not even 5 yrs old. Never mind the national push for body cameras, sharpened focus on state attorney races, push for scaling back prosecutorial power, etc

Not to say the civil rights movement and subsequent organizing has been without flaw, but the reason why we haven't made any substantial gains in wealth is clear:

-Historically we have been denied access to higher education and training for skilled trades

-Discrimination in the job market, banking and housing market

-We are disproportionately poor and poor ppl pay more for just about everything

-Debtors prisons

-Blks more likely to have to take out a loan to pay for college

That said, removing sructural racism will help keep money in our pockets so we can begin to think about building wealth, investing, starting a business, etc

For instance, In its report on the Ferguson, Mo., Police Department, the Justice Department found that officers disproportionately stopped and ticketed blk citizens. For a “manner of walking” violation, it was $302; for “high grass and weeds,” $531

You think that shit only happens there?

A $302 ticket can be devastating for someone who is experiencing a medical emergency or was recently laid off work

Yea let's talk about how capitalism's cycles of depression and recession have also long contributed to ongoing social injustice and the stunting of blk wealth /stunting blk middle class

Multiple recessions that struck america throughout the late 70s and 80s, for instance, wiped out a lot of the Blk middle class that began to surface in the 50s, 60s

And our most recent recession disporpotionately impacted minorities

Then you got politicians cutting the funding to the very social programs that were meant to keep families afloat during these times

Don't get me started on how the cost of medical care has stunted Blk wealth. Thanx privatized health care

So yea closing the wealth gap is going to take way more then self reflection on our parts

Political and social activism as a solution to black problems has basically run it's course and from now on will BE DRASTICALLY reduced in effectiveness. remember the occupy wall street nonsense??? it did not work/ ACCOMPLISHED very little and neither will BLM. The fatal flaw in your way of thinking is the belief that you can solve certain problems or that you even have the right to.

-YOU WON'T BE ABLE to stop discrimination in the workforce, housing market or banking industry because those are largely private enterprises. You cannot force me to hire someone i really don't want, you cannot force banks to lead to black people and housing discrimination by private owners is hard to prove... I know because used to rent to people and i discriminated, i hire people and i discriminated, i tried to get loans and i was denied for no good reason but i did not cry about it.

-In 2016 there are no one is stopping black from seeking education and hey haven't for a long time now.

-yes it sucks to be poor a certain level of poverty is a function of human economic systems

- there are no REAL debtors prisons. If you miss a court date you violated the law, if you don't pay your tickets you violated the law. IF BLACKS don't want certain ordinances to be enforced then shouldn't those democratic politicians that we have been voting for DO SOME THING?? they don't because they don't care about your black ass.

- blacks have less money due to the fact that we have not built a proper economic base for ourselves so naturally we have to take out loans for school.

I freely admit things are harder for black people but it would be made less hard if we did not engage in so much destructive behavior. Structural racism will not be totally removed it will always exist because outside of government i.e the private sector you cannot force people to be non-racist. BOOM AND BUST is part of the capitalistic system . the so called black middle class is largely a creation of the government,the black middle class is disproportionately composed of people with government jobs... so of course when the government makes needed cuts or fucks up blacks will be affected more than others.

YOU NEED TO GROW UP AND ACCEPT CERTAIN HARSH REALITIES OF LIFE.

 

[Olorun22]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=faolY5_hnIc

This is one of the worst video i've seen about black people problem. He's a tom and he doesn't have soultion just problems the white throw up on black people.

5. Victim mentality. We as black people know the truth I don't know why people think the white people are going to let black empower themselves in the usa. It stats the backup how black people graduate from college and still can't find a job out of all the groups. Are we going to act like black people just make up shit like not being promoted at jobs that they work hard at?

Let's talk about the minority groups and how they let people coming into the country and compete against black when they didn't fight for it at all they just get the benefiting from our work. Also, white women aren't a minority either whatever the white man has she has so how the fuck can they be a minority with black man and women. Plus, they receive the most benefits from being a minority

 

[Olorun22]

The man is correct and fuck you if you cannot see it

black people want to end white supremacy but don't want to stop killing each other

black people want to be wealthier but keep voting for people with policies that make them poorer

black people want stronger families but keep having children out of wedlock

In essence black don't want to do what is necessary to stop white supremacy all niggas want to do is cry and complain and bitch and moan about racism but white people don't really care about your tears they just throw us a few crumbs to get us to shut the fuck up a little.

No, he isn't right and you do sound like a white boy . you keep saying your not white but idk. All his talking point are what white people say and white people are dishonest as fuck.

You telling black people we're voting wrong but in reality we don't have any good option they both won't and haven't did shit for black people. What is our alternative? Trump isn't going to be that answer and you know that shit.

 

[jono]

Stop competing with whites. Life isn't a competition, its not a race because there isn't a finish line..

Focusing on the basics should be important:

Family

Friends

Community

Etc

Mazlow's hierarchy is famous for a reason.

Build a house from the basement. Sure up the family structure, buy a house, keep the neighborhood your house is in safe and get involved in community activities whatever those might be and then work on owning property and businesses.

Most people fucked up right out of the gate

 

[Olorun22]

The man is correct and fuck you if you cannot see it

black people want to end white supremacy but don't want to stop killing each other

black people want to be wealthier but keep voting for people with policies that make them poorer

black people want stronger families but keep having children out of wedlock

In essence black don't want to do what is necessary to stop white supremacy all niggas want to do is cry and complain and bitch and moan about racism but white people don't really care about your tears they just throw us a few crumbs to get us to shut the fuck up a little.

Who are the black people doing the bold? Sure, it seems like he's right if you relegate all black people down to the group you're describing, but what percentage of black people does that even represent? How many blacks are really out here killing other blacks? How many blacks are out there compulsively having kids out of wedlock? The problem with bullshit like this isn't that there are no blacks to which it applies. The problem is that the people that push this bullshit and the fools that believe it apply it in a far more generalized manner than reality supports.

The black folks i am talking about are a loud minority and this loud minority is making us all look bad.The black folks in the majority we don't have to worry about them but their cousins in the ghetto are fucking it up for everybody. For example the city of Chicago SHOULD be a disgrace to all black people in america

You like being on the hamster wheel? Doesn't matter how fast you running you never going to get it. Why are you even talking about a small percentage of black people for ? You act let thats a clearly representation of all of us

 

[zzombie]

The man is correct and fuck you if you cannot see it

black people want to end white supremacy but don't want to stop killing each other

black people want to be wealthier but keep voting for people with policies that make them poorer

black people want stronger families but keep having children out of wedlock

In essence black don't want to do what is necessary to stop white supremacy all niggas want to do is cry and complain and bitch and moan about racism but white people don't really care about your tears they just throw us a few crumbs to get us to shut the fuck up a little.

No, he isn't right and you do sound like a white boy . you keep saying your not white but idk. All his talking point are what white people say and white people are dishonest as fuck.

You telling black people we're voting wrong but in reality we don't have any good option they both won't and haven't did shit for black people. What is our alternative? Trump isn't going to be that answer and you know that shit.

The correct option is to vote for who aligns with your interests AND THE INTERESTS of your community. my whole argument and the guy is the video arguments rests on the fact that the people and ideology that we have been voting for in these last 40-50 years has not improved the black situation enough. In fact in many ways we have been going down into a pit of degeneracy. The man in the video is right, we have been saying the man in the video is wrong for 40 years and look at where we are now??? still not able to compete with the other races in america. STOP FUCKING BLAMING EXTERNAL FACTORS AND LOOK INWARD. This whole thing were if you don't subscribe to the popular black viewpoint then you must be white nonsense needs to stop.

I am not a leftist ideological slave, my mind is free you should get off the plantation brother it's much nicer outside

This is not about fucking trump. Trump is not a conservative or a liberal TRUMP IS TRUMP.

 

[iron man1]

I'm not watching that video but was being black number one on the list? If not he can kick rocks.

 

[zzombie]

@jono

You could not be more fucking wrong we live under capitalism everything is a competition... You won't be able to self actualize shit living in poverty.

 

[zzombie]

The man is correct and fuck you if you cannot see it

black people want to end white supremacy but don't want to stop killing each other

black people want to be wealthier but keep voting for people with policies that make them poorer

black people want stronger families but keep having children out of wedlock

In essence black don't want to do what is necessary to stop white supremacy all niggas want to do is cry and complain and bitch and moan about racism but white people don't really care about your tears they just throw us a few crumbs to get us to shut the fuck up a little.

Who are the black people doing the bold? Sure, it seems like he's right if you relegate all black people down to the group you're describing, but what percentage of black people does that even represent? How many blacks are really out here killing other blacks? How many blacks are out there compulsively having kids out of wedlock? The problem with bullshit like this isn't that there are no blacks to which it applies. The problem is that the people that push this bullshit and the fools that believe it apply it in a far more generalized manner than reality supports.

The black folks i am talking about are a loud minority and this loud minority is making us all look bad.The black folks in the majority we don't have to worry about them but their cousins in the ghetto are fucking it up for everybody. For example the city of Chicago SHOULD be a disgrace to all black people in america

You like being on the hamster wheel? Doesn't matter how fast you running you never going to get it. Why are you even talking about a small percentage of black people for ? You act let thats a clearly representation of all of us

IF the small percentage is loud and if they can stain us all with their fuckery then the small percentage matters... i could say fuck it let them niggas in the ghetto live like trash but what i am saying is the exact opposite of that we need to try and fix our poorer communities social and economic problems and we cannot do that if we just allow them to blame the white man/racism for everything.

 

[MazterChef]

Lol, and? C'mon, we've all heard that "argument" before. I just find it weak for, imo, obvious reasons. It's old hat.

so specifically black people are affected by religion wtf

White people=Christianity

Arabs= Islam

Asian= Buddha

Indians=Hinduism

Black people=Islam and Christianity

How can people built with two different ideology that goes against each other?

Atheists, in general, are more likely to be male and younger than the overall population; 68% are men, and the median age of atheist adults in the U.S. is 34 (compared with 46 for all U.S. adults). Atheists also are more likely to be white (78% are Caucasian

This is from a pew research

Whites are christian/catholic/agnostic/athiest etc so you're wrong on whites

India you're very wrong India is very mixed with yes majority Hindu but a very very large Muslim population and the rest christian or Presbyterian

You're very very very wrong on your religion stance.

 

[jono]

@jono

You could not be more fucking wrong we live under capitalism everything is a competition... You won't be able to self actualize shit living in poverty.

If you follow the basics you shouldn't be in poverty. Niggas can't jump from poverty to prosperity overnight.