This just goes to show how ignorant whites really are when it comes to the struggle.

[Jabu_Rule]

No problem at all. Certainly you are free to respond to any post,... even if it is just my off topic musing and not addressed to anyone in particular.

John

And appreciation to Christ who had no involuntary temporal slaves
and who taught "love one another" [without regard to color]
and whose "good Samaritan" story helped greatly to create whatever racial harmony we do have.

furious

I don't subscribe to your theist beliefs so that's neither here nor there.

John

Wanna be miserable, ...stay pissed at God about what you aint got it.
Wanna be happy, ...... thank God what you have got.

And then it goes on from there. Close enough to the topic you interjected into this thread for you?
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The comment you made about trying to act white and the quotes from the book were very relative to my conversations with another poster also.

You should try to stay on topic.

Are you about 22 years old ?

No. I'm 33. But what's your point? Are you an ageist too. 22 years old shouldn't be a part of this conversation?

 

[Justa Phella]

man i got something i will post later on this week, once this dam scanner is up in running. it will show how ignorant this (white) america is.

 

[John Prewett]

........... But nothing is general amongst a people. ............

Presuming I understand you correctly, I agree.

She said that they eradicated slavery which is a blatant falsehood.

If she said the 1776 founding fathers eradicated slavery, then she is obviously incorrect.

She also said all whites were equal which you should raise an eyebrow at also.

We should be equal before the law. But we are plainly unequal in most any other way you can think of.

You also mention the mentality of blacks as if that is the mentality of all blacks.

JP typed: Regarding STREET LEVEL, personal contact crime, ...................

McCalls book reveals the early stages of and the mentality of the blacks causing the black on white crime statistical disparity.

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Sorry if it was not clear I was referring specifically to the faction of blacks "causing the ....disparity"

Then this is the fact that this is only one case that you continue to harp on

without reviewing the factors of what mad people in the community act that way towards whites. ........

When one hears of [much less experiences oneself] a gang attack on a person just cause they were

ones own skin color, and, one has no way of knowing or eliminating the "factors that made them do it",

..... then it does not matter to one what factors made the gang do it.

NO matter what some black person(s) did to me or a loved one,

it is not right for me to retalitate by hurting a random black that randomly crosses my path.

Or even to hate blacks in general. Same vica versa.

McCall and his gang deemed it right to hate and gang beat any white kid that just randomly crossed their path.

To date, none beaten to death (but I'm only 1/4 into his book, and he's just now at the stage of acquiring guns).

When mad dogs room your neighbohood,

and you know YOU didn't make them mad, ....

and you know of no cure,

..........

then you don't care what made them mad.

All you care about is either eliminating them or, if you can't do that, then getting away from them.

....... Gangs came about from a racist atmosphere of poverty though so it's still with us.

McCall and his gang were not raised in poverty.

 

[Jabu_Rule]

If she said the 1776 founding fathers eradicated slavery, then she is obviously incorrect.

This is all i was trying to expound. The bigger issue is that her and a large group of influential politicians like her do this often with other topics besides this one. Black people are not the only offended group here but this topic of conversation was focused on this particular incident. No one should sit around and allow these sorts sorts of people to influence our politics and history. Illuminating it just as you are doing for the disgusting ways of our community and all communities (and many in our community do this to to a great degree) helps to battle the problem. Racism is also a particular issue that isn't completely off the table.

JP typed: Regarding STREET LEVEL, personal contact crime, ...................
McCalls book reveals the early stages of and the mentality of the blacks causing the black on white crime statistical disparity.
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Sorry if it was not clear I was referring specifically to the faction of blacks "causing the ....disparity"

Which is a reaction mainly to what was done to blacks in the era as a whole. This was obviously a wrong approach and i say again, i wouldn't support nor condone such actions.

When one hears of [much less experiences oneself] a gang attack on a person just cause they were
ones own skin color, and, one has no way of knowing or eliminating the "factors that made them do it",
..... then it does not matter to one what factors made the gang do it.

NO matter what some black person(s) did to me or a loved one,
it is not right for me to retalitate by hurting a random black that randomly crosses my path.
Or even to hate blacks in general. Same vica versa.

McCall and his gang deemed it right to hate and gang beat any white kid that just randomly crossed their path.
To date, none beaten to death (but I'm only 1/4 into his book, and he's just now at the stage of acquiring guns).

No it isn't right, but blacks have experienced this to a greater degree to the point of lynchings. Two wrongs never make a right.
Also the street crimes are committed to a greater degree on other blacks but this does not mean that people of other races and cultures will not get caught up in an equal opportunity crime. There is also the factor that black people generally don't report these crimes for fear of reprisal and the general feeling that nothing will be or can't be done about it, not to mention the general distrust of law enforcement. There is also the position of not wanting to be looked at as a snitch and taking care of the situation outside of the law. I'm not supporting those actions but the crimes that you mention aren't as race based as you imply (outside of that book). Their more crimes of opportunity.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crime_in_the_United_States#Crime_victimology

When mad dogs room your neighbohood,
and you know YOU didn't make them mad, ....
and you know of no cure,
..........
then you don't care what made them mad.
All you care about is either eliminating them or, if you can't do that, then getting away from them.

McCall and his gang were not raised in poverty.

There are greater disparities that creates and environment of festering resentment other then economic ones. McCall was wrong and he admitted to such in his book. That is also one case that you keep bringing up. I will read that book.

 

[The Lonious Monk]

Takes some time to stop an ocean liner. Also took some time for W.Civilization to end a practice [slavery] that endured for over 4000 years all over the world.

I'm not familiar enough with this woman's views, nor with the precise work of all the "founding fathers" to argue about what she may be "rewriting."

However, I do know that legal slavery ended quite a while ago, whereas slavery is still a reality in some parts of Africa and Middle East.

I guess this guy doesn't know that sex slavery is still alive and well throughout Europe.

 

[John Prewett]

I guess this guy doesn't know that sex slavery is still alive and well throughout Europe.

Is it openly conducted/ legal throughout Europe ?

I certainly agree it, along with all manner of crime exists all over the world.

Do you know the Koran explicitly OKs/sanctions sex slavery ? [slave should be infidel, of course]

I'm confident many sex slaves are imprisoned in the mansions of wealthy Saudi "Royalty."

And such as the CIA know all about it.

Some spiritual ignoramus scriptural cherry picker is going to counter [change subject]

by pointing out OT law of Moses also condones slavery.

They should bring that issue up with somone who promotes imposing the law of Moses on the world,

as Islamist seek to impose KORAN/MOslem law on the whole world.

Be advised CHRISTians [as I use the label, which is accurately] are led by CHRIST. Not by the OT law of Moses.

 

[John Prewett]

........................ McCall was wrong and he admitted to such in his book. That is also one case that you keep bringing up. I will read that book.

Thus far he has not plainly unequivocally said "I was wrong",..... maybe later in the book he does.

Maybe we'll discuss his account after we both have finished the book. Might even drop him a line at his website.

A modification of something I previously stated:

Previously I stated: "McCall and his gang deemed it right to hate and gang beat any white kid that just randomly crossed their path"

I should have stated: "McCall and his gang specifically looked for and attacked lone white boys strictly cause they were white." [see page 62]

 

[Jabu_Rule]

Thus far he has not plainly unequivocally said "I was wrong",..... maybe later in the book he does.

Maybe we'll discuss his account after we both have finished the book. Might even drop him a line at his website.

I'm with that.

 

[kingblaze84]

Well somebody is voting for her..

Smh @ Bachmann and Palin being the Political versions of Gucci Man and Souljah boy

LOL, I could not have put it better myself. I'm shocked people still take Palin and Bachmann seriously.