Thee Official Drake vs Meek Mill beef thread

[Elzo69Renaissance]

they just need to settle this on the KOTD stage

Yea, cuz they'll both prolly get boo'd off the Smack stage.

nah OVO has sponsored so many KOTD events.....he gonna have that super dot mob crowd

 

[(ob)Scene]

I like this comment.

I never understood why Drake was so popular. He's the Taylor Swift of hip hop, but more narcissistic and he can't write his own music. He epitomizes all the terrible of this generation, with none of the redeeming qualities, packaged in an inoffensive off-brand Canadian child actor.

He fits in PERFECTLY with a corporate controlled, demographically modeled genre. Anyone who expects realness out of it knows very little about this side of the music industry. There's no shortage of realness to be had in music, you just won't find it here.

To say "he doesn't write his own music" is a bit of hyperbole b/c we know he CAN write his own music. It's what makes it that much more disappointing... I believe that's likely why the backlash isn't anywhere near what it probably should be...

We all know Drake can spit and the references we've heard ain't have shit to do with being a lyricist/wordsmith.

Meek Mill won this battle. A week later and the discussion of the battle is squarely on how much Drake uses ghost writers and writing assistance. We are no longer talking about trigger fingers turning into twitter fingers because it is a shallow diss. We would rather people to express themselves through spoken word and writing as apposed to violence. We no longer talk about about "his girl's tour" because in a liberal egalitarian society we celebrated when a woman achieves not shun. Getting "bodied by a singing nigga" is that white boy self deprecative bullshit that doesn't fly in the black community.

No, Meek did not win the battle.

Like I've said earlier in the thread this isn't Dateline NBC. You don't win a battle just for exposing something about someone. If that were the case Jay would have been victorious against Nas just for disposing used condoms on his child's baby seat.

Anything that occurs to Drake as a result of ghostwriters is his own undoing. Meek is just the one that spoke to it.

Maybe he could have won the battle if he would have restated it in a creative manner in his actual diss track. Instead we got the garbage that resulted in him eating this L.

 

[achewon87]

Rofl...

Even has a white girl poet on the writting team who wrote Connect...

 

[DOPEdweebz]

I like this comment.

I never understood why Drake was so popular. He's the Taylor Swift of hip hop, but more narcissistic and he can't write his own music. He epitomizes all the terrible of this generation, with none of the redeeming qualities, packaged in an inoffensive off-brand Canadian child actor.

He fits in PERFECTLY with a corporate controlled, demographically modeled genre. Anyone who expects realness out of it knows very little about this side of the music industry. There's no shortage of realness to be had in music, you just won't find it here.

To say "he doesn't write his own music" is a bit of hyperbole b/c we know he CAN write his own music. It's what makes it that much more disappointing... I believe that's likely why the backlash isn't anywhere near what it probably should be...

We all know Drake can spit and the references we've heard ain't have shit to do with being a lyricist/wordsmith.

Meek Mill won this battle. A week later and the discussion of the battle is squarely on how much Drake uses ghost writers and writing assistance. We are no longer talking about trigger fingers turning into twitter fingers because it is a shallow diss. We would rather people to express themselves through spoken word and writing as apposed to violence. We no longer talk about about "his girl's tour" because in a liberal egalitarian society we celebrated when a woman achieves not shun. Getting "bodied by a singing nigga" is that white boy self deprecative bullshit that doesn't fly in the black community.

If Ice Cube is ok with it I'm ok with, the "winning" in your delusional ass mind has nothing to do with the actual lyrics of the battle. You're really trying your best to twist it but it makes you look Maggie Simpson and Meek Mill a baby bottle.

Meek is still the laughing stock of the industry and CLEARLY lost the battle in every most segments of society. Everything you're referring to is outside the battle and was discussed in tweets and Flex Hogan shows. Even outside the battle where Drake loses credibility in some hip hop fans he gained in cash flow and marketability and popularity., so in the end he lost nothing but to delusional haters like you, who gon hate regardless, and choose the angle they want to debate and favor.

Btw if yall dont like Drake, why yall still talking about him? in b4 the feelings and name calling.

 

[BobOblah]

Good Kris Ex article posted on NPR yesterday on this whole thing...

Stakes Is High: Drake Ghostwriting Accusations Matter More Than You Think
http://www.npr.org/sections/thereco...riting-accusations-matter-more-than-you-think

I turned on NPR yesterday in my car after work and heard RICO playing. I had to double check i thought I was on the wrong station lol. Then it switched from Drakes verse to the Quentin Miller reference track and then this interview.

NPR is nerd talk radio your hip hop opionon is now invalid for all hip hop related discussions.

yea bruh being informed is wack i got you.

You know Ali Shaheed Muhammad from ATCQ has an NPR show?

 

[blackrain]

Can we replace Drake with Childish Gambino yet? He sings better, acts better, cleverer punches, cornier nerd shit, probably writes his own rhymes. Oh he's Darkskin, Drake fans will never.

Lol go look at a live show from Gambino. White folks love him. It was hard to find a black face in the crowd and I been fucking with Gambino since I heard "Black Faces" with Nipsey Hussle

 

[KamPushMe]

I like this comment.

I never understood why Drake was so popular. He's the Taylor Swift of hip hop, but more narcissistic and he can't write his own music. He epitomizes all the terrible of this generation, with none of the redeeming qualities, packaged in an inoffensive off-brand Canadian child actor.

He fits in PERFECTLY with a corporate controlled, demographically modeled genre. Anyone who expects realness out of it knows very little about this side of the music industry. There's no shortage of realness to be had in music, you just won't find it here.

To say "he doesn't write his own music" is a bit of hyperbole b/c we know he CAN write his own music. It's what makes it that much more disappointing... I believe that's likely why the backlash isn't anywhere near what it probably should be...

We all know Drake can spit and the references we've heard ain't have shit to do with being a lyricist/wordsmith.

Meek Mill won this battle. A week later and the discussion of the battle is squarely on how much Drake uses ghost writers and writing assistance. We are no longer talking about trigger fingers turning into twitter fingers because it is a shallow diss. We would rather people to express themselves through spoken word and writing as apposed to violence. We no longer talk about about "his girl's tour" because in a liberal egalitarian society we celebrated when a woman achieves not shun. Getting "bodied by a singing nigga" is that white boy self deprecative bullshit that doesn't fly in the black community.

No, Meek did not win the battle.

Like I've said earlier in the thread this isn't Dateline NBC. You don't win a battle just for exposing something about someone. If that were the case Jay would have been victorious against Nas just for disposing used condoms on his child's baby seat.

Anything that occurs to Drake as a result of ghostwriters is his own undoing. Meek is just the one that spoke to it.

Maybe he could have won the battle if he would have restated it in a creative manner in his actual diss track. Instead we got the garbage that resulted in him eating this L.

Smh

 

[(ob)Scene]

I like this comment.

I never understood why Drake was so popular. He's the Taylor Swift of hip hop, but more narcissistic and he can't write his own music. He epitomizes all the terrible of this generation, with none of the redeeming qualities, packaged in an inoffensive off-brand Canadian child actor.

He fits in PERFECTLY with a corporate controlled, demographically modeled genre. Anyone who expects realness out of it knows very little about this side of the music industry. There's no shortage of realness to be had in music, you just won't find it here.

To say "he doesn't write his own music" is a bit of hyperbole b/c we know he CAN write his own music. It's what makes it that much more disappointing... I believe that's likely why the backlash isn't anywhere near what it probably should be...

We all know Drake can spit and the references we've heard ain't have shit to do with being a lyricist/wordsmith.

Meek Mill won this battle. A week later and the discussion of the battle is squarely on how much Drake uses ghost writers and writing assistance. We are no longer talking about trigger fingers turning into twitter fingers because it is a shallow diss. We would rather people to express themselves through spoken word and writing as apposed to violence. We no longer talk about about "his girl's tour" because in a liberal egalitarian society we celebrated when a woman achieves not shun. Getting "bodied by a singing nigga" is that white boy self deprecative bullshit that doesn't fly in the black community.

No, Meek did not win the battle.

Like I've said earlier in the thread this isn't Dateline NBC. You don't win a battle just for exposing something about someone. If that were the case Jay would have been victorious against Nas just for disposing used condoms on his child's baby seat.

Anything that occurs to Drake as a result of ghostwriters is his own undoing. Meek is just the one that spoke to it.

Maybe he could have won the battle if he would have restated it in a creative manner in his actual diss track. Instead we got the garbage that resulted in him eating this L.

Smh

I mean... niggas already co-signed the original post

Meek lost because this generation doesn't care at all about craft and the majority of hip hop fans are casual listeners. Meek lost as SOON as he dissed Drake because of the fan base. Drake could have ignored him or dropped some subliminal Shit like the Common beef and he would have still won.

I don't get niggas keep saying this shit... Meek lost because his own "raps" in this battle were underwhelming as fuck. You don't win a battle just for exposing a nigga on twitter. Shit, you don't win a battle just off of exposing someone period... this ain't Dateline NBC, niggas.

It's possible for people to think Drake won this but still hold him accountable for his ghostwriters.

 

[2stepz_ahead]

Good Kris Ex article posted on NPR yesterday on this whole thing...

Stakes Is High: Drake Ghostwriting Accusations Matter More Than You Think
http://www.npr.org/sections/thereco...riting-accusations-matter-more-than-you-think

I turned on NPR yesterday in my car after work and heard RICO playing. I had to double check i thought I was on the wrong station lol. Then it switched from Drakes verse to the Quentin Miller reference track and then this interview.

NPR is nerd talk radio your hip hop opionon is now invalid for all hip hop related discussions.

i like NPR....that old lady that took like 30 minutes to say a sentence was the only part of a long drive i didnt like

 

[MR.CJ]

Remember When Noah "40" Shebib Said, "In Hip-Hop, You Must Write Your Own Raps"?

"In hip-hop, you must write your own raps. If someone else were to write them for you, you'd have no credibility whatsoever, and you'd be out of the window immediately."
http://www.complex.com/music/2015/08/drake-noah-40-shebib-songwriting-hip-hop

https://www.slantnews.com/story/201...-quiet-pen-keeping-drake-on-top-of-the-charts

It gets deeper. Meek cut a vein that is going to slowly bleed out this phony.

Damn

 

[Listencloser]

I like this comment.

I never understood why Drake was so popular. He's the Taylor Swift of hip hop, but more narcissistic and he can't write his own music. He epitomizes all the terrible of this generation, with none of the redeeming qualities, packaged in an inoffensive off-brand Canadian child actor.

He fits in PERFECTLY with a corporate controlled, demographically modeled genre. Anyone who expects realness out of it knows very little about this side of the music industry. There's no shortage of realness to be had in music, you just won't find it here.

To say "he doesn't write his own music" is a bit of hyperbole b/c we know he CAN write his own music. It's what makes it that much more disappointing... I believe that's likely why the backlash isn't anywhere near what it probably should be...

We all know Drake can spit and the references we've heard ain't have shit to do with being a lyricist/wordsmith.

Meek Mill won this battle. A week later and the discussion of the battle is squarely on how much Drake uses ghost writers and writing assistance. We are no longer talking about trigger fingers turning into twitter fingers because it is a shallow diss. We would rather people to express themselves through spoken word and writing as apposed to violence. We no longer talk about about "his girl's tour" because in a liberal egalitarian society we celebrated when a woman achieves not shun. Getting "bodied by a singing nigga" is that white boy self deprecative bullshit that doesn't fly in the black community.

If Ice Cube is ok with it I'm ok with, the "winning" in your delusional ass mind has nothing to do with the actual lyrics of the battle. You're really trying your best to twist it but it makes you look Maggie Simpson and Meek Mill a baby bottle.

Meek is still the laughing stock of the industry and CLEARLY lost the battle in every most segments of society. Everything you're referring to is outside the battle and was discussed in tweets and Flex Hogan shows. Even outside the battle where Drake loses credibility in some hip hop fans he gained in cash flow and marketability and popularity., so in the end he lost nothing but to delusional haters like you, who gon hate regardless, and choose the angle they want to debate and favor.

Btw if yall dont like Drake, why yall still talking about him? in b4 the feelings and name calling.

I like this comment.

I never understood why Drake was so popular. He's the Taylor Swift of hip hop, but more narcissistic and he can't write his own music. He epitomizes all the terrible of this generation, with none of the redeeming qualities, packaged in an inoffensive off-brand Canadian child actor.

He fits in PERFECTLY with a corporate controlled, demographically modeled genre. Anyone who expects realness out of it knows very little about this side of the music industry. There's no shortage of realness to be had in music, you just won't find it here.

To say "he doesn't write his own music" is a bit of hyperbole b/c we know he CAN write his own music. It's what makes it that much more disappointing... I believe that's likely why the backlash isn't anywhere near what it probably should be...

We all know Drake can spit and the references we've heard ain't have shit to do with being a lyricist/wordsmith.

Meek Mill won this battle. A week later and the discussion of the battle is squarely on how much Drake uses ghost writers and writing assistance. We are no longer talking about trigger fingers turning into twitter fingers because it is a shallow diss. We would rather people to express themselves through spoken word and writing as apposed to violence. We no longer talk about about "his girl's tour" because in a liberal egalitarian society we celebrated when a woman achieves not shun. Getting "bodied by a singing nigga" is that white boy self deprecative bullshit that doesn't fly in the black community.

No, Meek did not win the battle.

Like I've said earlier in the thread this isn't Dateline NBC. You don't win a battle just for exposing something about someone. If that were the case Jay would have been victorious against Nas just for disposing used condoms on his child's baby seat.

Anything that occurs to Drake as a result of ghostwriters is his own undoing. Meek is just the one that spoke to it.

Maybe he could have won the battle if he would have restated it in a creative manner in his actual diss track. Instead we got the garbage that resulted in him eating this L.

Meek won the war. A week later and people are talking about the ghostwriting aspect of the story, not the lyrical jousting Meek lost at.

 

[Shizlansky]

Drake will lose among his place in history.

Drake will win because his fantasy don't care about who wrote it. They only care about the finish product.

The sponsors ain't running into their office thinking about what they have to do with drake now because he is still a huge draw.

 

[Listencloser]

Drake will lose among his place in history.

Drake will win because his fantasy don't care about who wrote it. They only care about the finish product.

The sponsors ain't running into their office thinking about what they have to do with drake now because he is still a huge draw.

Damage is done. Even white people look to rap for a small sense of authenticity.

 

[harry knucklez]

I saw this at Taco Breuno today at the front counter....

 

[J.J._Evans]

Meek won the war.

Fam, ain't nobody paying any attention to this anymore. 99% of the people that witnessed this believe that Drake handily won the beef.

Basically, you & a few others in that 1% are viewed like this............

 

[gemini86]

thats y i hate fans. "meek won the war" thats some stan ass shit. meek got handled like a rag doll. fuck outta here

 

[Listencloser]

thats y i hate fans. "meek won the war" thats some stan ass shit. meek got handled like a rag doll. fuck outta here

Not a fan of Meek. Back to Back was a better diss than Wanna Know. The take away from this beef is meek responded with a whack song. So what, all of his music is whack to me. Drake has ghost writers.

You can pretend that it doesn't matter to fans but it does in the end.

 

[IceBergTaylor]

so the machine helped drake write back to back? makes sense now. especially seeing as the machine was foolin with meek b4 he ran his mouth on twitter, perfect sense.

You goin mad hard for Drake

Back to back was an average track. Drake is the new face of Apple, brand ambassador of the Toronto Raptors and the most popular rapper to date. All this Vs

Meek Mill, currently known as Nicki's b/f.

Then again you believe Meek is a superstar.

not a top tier but like ieve said, not far behind. are u tryna tell me after a number 1 2nd album and after his first is near gold and should have started off selling over 200k, that meek has no juice or machine behind him? stop caping, meek shoulda came harder. yall gotta stop acting like the niggas who think they only lost cuz they slipped in the mud

Man if Meek was nearly as big as you think he is, he would not be just an undercard on Nicki's tour. Do you understand what exactly I mean by the machine? Drake is a corporate rapper at this stage. He is everywhere. He hosted the ESPYs didnt he? Dude was on SNL. Drake could star in a movie tomorrow and it would do big weekend numbers. He has the female audience on absolute smash.

You keep crying "Meek shoulda came harder"

wtf do you niggas expect?

He did exactly what he was supposed to do. He backed his "reference" diss, played a reference track, mentioned Puff slappin him and TI's man's pissin on him. What more did you think he should have said? I dont understand this idea that "Meek shoulda came harder" His diss was exactly what I expected minus the fact this whole ordeal proves he's not this lyrical messiah he thinks he is.

So you admit Meek didn't do that good lyrically but don't understand why people say he should have came harder? You seem to be ignoring the fact that even a diss with facts can be wack if its poorly put together which it was. I mean shit Super Ugly let the world know Jay left condoms on the baby seat. That's far more ether than any one thing Nas said in The actual song Ether but Ether is the better song and Super Ugly was a poorly put together song to most people so who do most people say won the battle?

Question, what did you think of Real Mutherfuckin Gs?

 

[IgboNegro]

thats y i hate fans. "meek won the war" thats some stan ass shit. meek got handled like a rag doll. fuck outta here

Not a fan of Meek. Back to Back was a better diss than Wanna Know. The take away from this beef is meek responded with a whack song. So what, all of his music is whack to me. Drake has ghost writers.

You can pretend that it doesn't matter to fans but it does in the end.

Literally no one cares, even rap legends don't care, you are the only one still trying to give meek the W.

 

[GetoBoy]

It's funny watching anybody that doesn't agree that Meek has been killed by Drake and is holding Drake accountable for the shit Meek brought up get called a "Drake hater" or a "Meek Stan" like the only opinions that's respected and viewed as a neutral opinion is the ones they agree with..... Sorry everybody doesn't look at things through the same ovo glasses some ppl can form an opinion outside of what they're told they should think by social media *shrugs*