The world's 100 richest people earned enough money in 2012 to end poverty 4x over.

[LUClEN]

Governments are not corporations though.

Sure, ok

From Title 28, Part VI, Chapter 176, Subchapter A, Section 3002 of the USC:

(15) “United States” means—

(A) a Federal corporation;

(B) an agency, department, commission, board, or other entity of the United States; or

(C) an instrumentality of the United States.

I need more context. Does that mean to refer to the US is to refer to federal corporations?

For example, in Canada we have Revenue Canada (IRS equivalent), Canada Post(mail), and we had Air Canada (flights). So in turn to say US would encompass all of these agencies... Thats how im interpreting this given the context.

 

[NoCompetition]

And another thing how much money is supposed to go to each person? What's the qualifications for "ending extreme poverty"? Different people have different habits and behaviors. How much do they think they would need to end their extreme poverty? Is ending extreme poverty givin people enough to eat or pay for other things too?

 

[UnderMiSensi]

Governments are not corporations though.

Sure, ok

From Title 28, Part VI, Chapter 176, Subchapter A, Section 3002 of the USC:

(15) “United States” means—

(A) a Federal corporation;

(B) an agency, department, commission, board, or other entity of the United States; or

(C) an instrumentality of the United States.

I need more context. Does that mean to refer to the US is to refer to federal corporations?

For example, in Canada we have Revenue Canada (IRS equivalent), Canada Post(mail), and we had Air Canada (flights). So in turn to say US would encompass all of these agencies... Thats how im interpreting this given the context.

It's pretty straight forward, United States = Federal Corporation maybe definitions will help

cor·po·ra·tion

/ˌkôrpəˈrāSHən/

Noun

A company or group of people authorized to act as a single entity (legally a person) and recognized as such in law.

A group of people elected to govern a city, town, or borough

.fed·er·al

/ˈfed(ə)rəl/

Adjective

Having or relating to a system of government in which several states form a unity but remain independent in internal affairs.

Of, relating to, or denoting the central government as distinguished from the separate units constituting a federation.

 

[LUClEN]

You're interpreting it incorrectly

 

[UnderMiSensi]

You're interpreting it incorrectly

That's a great rebuttal with a lot of substance. I'm reading the definitions as they are and you're trying use it in a context makes you more comfortable even though it's blatantly saying US means federal corporation. I give you the definition of federal and corporation so you'll have the denotation of what both of the words mean exactly, but you want to apply the connotations of them as how you feel they should mean in context yet I'm interpreting it incorrectly. Stopitrod

 

[LUClEN]

The unreferenced quote you dropped defined United States as essentially anything government related. One of those things that are government related are federal corporations.

They aren't corporations, Governments are above corporations. Governments possess corporations. Therefore, to refer to the United States is to also refer to the corporations controlled by the government.

 

[UnderMiSensi]

The unreferenced quote you dropped defined United States as essentially anything government related. One of those things that are government related are federal corporations.

They aren't corporations, Governments are above corporations. Governments possess corporations. Therefore, to refer to the United States is to also refer to the corporations controlled by the government.

It was a reference, I cited the United States Code, it was giving a definition of what United States mean.

It says in a straightforward manner that United States means a federal corporation, but you keep doing mental backflips. Here's another definition of corporation

cor·po·ra·tion

[kawr-puh-rey-shuhn] Show IPA

noun

1.

an association of individuals, created by law or under authority of law, having a continuous existence independent of the existences of its members, and powers and liabilities distinct from those of its members. See also municipal corporation, public corporation.

2.

( initial capital letter ) the group of principal officials of a borough or other municipal division in England.

3.

any group of persons united or regarded as united in one body.

4.

Informal. a paunch; potbelly.

You see I'm going by the denotations of the word, but you are going by connotations so they can suit a context that fits your view. You're not even arguing with me at this point, you're arguing with the actual definitions of the words now.

 

[Dr. Stitch]

Its just wacC...cuz making a lot of money "usually" involves already having a lot of money to start with...or reaping the benifits of your rich parents croaking...It hardly has to do with hard work!

So I guess angel investor's, venture capitalist's, crowd funding, or loans ain't options huh? I'm not buying this rhetoric of a lack of options in a first world country when people misuse their money by not properly investing(time/money) and then cry foul when someone else becomes a billionaire by properly investing their time/money.

Sooo...you're saying my rhetoric "it take money to make money" is wrong...lol how you gone try to ether me by stating my point? It dosnt matter if its money that you have, or if its money from investors...it still takes money to get things rollin! Rarely is a person gonna get rich by hard work alone...there are a lot of factors is my point...

 

[LUClEN]

The unreferenced quote you dropped defined United States as essentially anything government related. One of those things that are government related are federal corporations.

They aren't corporations, Governments are above corporations. Governments possess corporations. Therefore, to refer to the United States is to also refer to the corporations controlled by the government.

It was a reference, I cited the United States Code, it was giving a definition of what United States mean.

It says in a straightforward manner that United States means a federal corporation, but you keep doing mental backflips. Here's another definition of corporation

cor·po·ra·tion

[kawr-puh-rey-shuhn] Show IPA

noun

1.

an association of individuals, created by law or under authority of law, having a continuous existence independent of the existences of its members, and powers and liabilities distinct from those of its members. See also municipal corporation, public corporation.

2.

( initial capital letter ) the group of principal officials of a borough or other municipal division in England.

3.

any group of persons united or regarded as united in one body.

4.

Informal. a paunch; potbelly.

You see I'm going by the denotations of the word, but you are going by connotations so they can suit a context that fits your view. You're not even arguing with me at this point, you're arguing with the actual definitions of the words now.

I did argue. I called your quote unreferenced. You did nothing to provide a credible source for your info. One would surely think that some conflict theorists or Marxists would have written on such a topic if this were true. I googled it; found nothing academic regarding it. Substantiate your claim. The burden of proof is on you.

I will do you one better:
http://drezner.foreignpolicy.com/posts/2012/01/10/governments_are_not_corporatons

A piece written by Daniel Drezner, a professor of international politics at The Fletcher School of Law and Diplomacy at Tufts University.

 

[UnderMiSensi]

^No I have no burden. The only thing I have to do now is decide whether to believe your(a Canadian at that) connotation of the United States Code that I referenced or believe the denotation of what the United States Code actually said. This is quite an easy decision.

 

[LUClEN]

It did not say that though. You're just interpreting it as that.

What taxes do governments pay? Who do they answer to?

Corporations answer to governments, abide by the rules set by them and unlike governments are not democratically chosen by the people. The government is not a corporation b.