The streets really don't have anybody right now.

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hnic1978;6103861 said:
You know whats funny, those same "street" rappers you talk about, stay in the best suburbs in every city and they kids goto private schools.

Umm, duuh. But what they're rappin' about is their experience in the streets. That's the point. I came from a struggle, or a struggle similar to your & now i'm here. Also, living somewhere else doesn't mean you're off the streets. You're very naive if you believe that. If that's the case Jimmy Henchman should've been good right? Tyson should've been had a perfect life once he stepped in the ring? Shit just ain't that black or white.

I'm not saying i agree when people crave for street shit but that argument is just dumb.
 
Who said the kids gotta follow the streets?

You can find your own lane!

I understand ya point but now you got lil boys doin gay shit tryning to follow whats on t.v.!

You got kids trying to be whiter then their friends!

I see a lot of shallow dummies and very few leaders! (rappers)
 
SnuffDaddy;6103062 said:
afro thunder;6103012 said:
They had Plies until they found out he was a valedictorian and went to college...Isn't that supposed to be a good thing?

Now they have Sosa, Reese and them.

Nah. They rap from a street perspective but most of the hood ain't feelin' them. I think t/s is talking more of a Jeezy, DMX, 50 Cent, Death Row and the list goes on.

Tbh i think the closest is TDE, believe it or not. Only difference might be that they don't carry that street persona i suppose that they can relate to.

Them days are over. The hood got gentrified and most of the "street" rappers can't rap for shit these days. What we seeing is life post-crack epidemic.
 
Zigefresh;498770 said:
I feel like that's the main problem right now. The streets don't have that leader to speak to them, Nas is the closest one, but most young niccas in the street don't really connect with him since he's a older head. Jay and Kanye on their different shit. Wayne on his weird shit Drake singing to the hoes and talking about stealing his uncles car. Ti slipped out his spot. Nobody believes Ross. Jeezy fell off. niggas think J coles a cornball. You get the point. The only rappers who the streets have are other dumb motherfuckas like chief keef who rap about doing the same dumb shit they're trying to escape. The streets don't have anyone to talk to them like a Scarface, Dmx, Big, Pac, Old Jay, Old Nas. Rap is incomplete without that. And life is incomplete without that to be honest. That's why motherfuckas are so confused right now. Rap without someone in that spot is like a country with no president. Someone needs to step to the plate or its only going to get uglier. Rap is really in a great space right now. I don't think there's ever been this many lanes poppin all at once. We're just missing that one element to tie it all together

Who hates Cole.in the real world ppl like him, but he doesn't play the street nigga role

I may not like the music coming from some of the street rappers, but their out here.

This is a confusing topic, because you got real niggas who make pop music, but will pop your ass too, but that 90's grimy shit is underground

 
SnuffDaddy;6103895 said:
hnic1978;6103861 said:
You know whats funny, those same "street" rappers you talk about, stay in the best suburbs in every city and they kids goto private schools.

Umm, duuh. But what they're rappin' about is their experience in the streets. That's the point. I came from a struggle, or a struggle similar to your & now i'm here. Also, living somewhere else doesn't mean you're off the streets. You're very naive if you believe that. If that's the case Jimmy Henchman should've been good right? Tyson should've been had a perfect life once he stepped in the ring? Shit just ain't that black or white.

I'm not saying i agree when people crave for street shit but that argument is just dumb.

See you not understanding my argument or i didn't stress it right. What im saying is that niggas take to literal what a lot of rappers view as entertainment thats why is said that.
 
Niggas don't care about all of the gun talk they rather listen to a rapper rapping about being a millionaire playboy banging bad bitches in penthouses and shit of that nature.
 
Wild Self;6104372 said:
SnuffDaddy;6103062 said:
afro thunder;6103012 said:
They had Plies until they found out he was a valedictorian and went to college...Isn't that supposed to be a good thing?

Now they have Sosa, Reese and them.

Nah. They rap from a street perspective but most of the hood ain't feelin' them. I think t/s is talking more of a Jeezy, DMX, 50 Cent, Death Row and the list goes on.

Tbh i think the closest is TDE, believe it or not. Only difference might be that they don't carry that street persona i suppose that they can relate to.

Them days are over. The hood got gentrified and most of the "street" rappers can't rap for shit these days. What we seeing is life post-crack epidemic.

@bolded

Which is why i said the sound is important. Business thing is another thing. Nothing pops off just because. Remember, it's entertainment business. What makes cents make sense. What they can profit off is what's gonna go.

As far as gentrified - that's true. Doesn't mean there is no struggle for nobody just cuz it's better now than before cuz the same could be said back then. How you gon' talk that that street shit isn't movin' & then call it the post-crack epidemic? Then shouldn't street/struggle raps be more afluent? We talking about kids who grew up with parents who grew up during the crack epidemic & the kids witnessed it.
 
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RichPorterOfTheIC;6103559 said:
Doesnt matter The streets don't buy albums anyway.

White fans that buy and attend concerts>>>>>>>>the streets

the streets going into those concerts tracking down white chicks in the crowd lol true story
 
SnuffDaddy;6104497 said:
Wild Self;6104372 said:
SnuffDaddy;6103062 said:
afro thunder;6103012 said:
They had Plies until they found out he was a valedictorian and went to college...Isn't that supposed to be a good thing?

Now they have Sosa, Reese and them.

Nah. They rap from a street perspective but most of the hood ain't feelin' them. I think t/s is talking more of a Jeezy, DMX, 50 Cent, Death Row and the list goes on.

Tbh i think the closest is TDE, believe it or not. Only difference might be that they don't carry that street persona i suppose that they can relate to.

Them days are over. The hood got gentrified and most of the "street" rappers can't rap for shit these days. What we seeing is life post-crack epidemic.

@bolded

Which is why i said the sound is important. Business thing is another thing. Nothing pops off just because. Remember, it's entertainment business. What makes cents make sense. What they can profit off is what's gonna go.

As far as gentrified - that's true. Doesn't mean there is no struggle for nobody just cuz it's better now than before cuz the same could be said back then. How you gon' talk that that street shit isn't movin' & then call it the post-crack epidemic? Then shouldn't street/struggle raps be more afluent? We talking about kids who grew up with parents who grew up during the crack epidemic & the kids witnessed it.

i totally agree.....btw your tape deck is dope!!!
 
Most older cats listen to emcees they grew up with or underground rapperes anyways.

Who u think is buying a raekwon cd or stressing going to an az performance this day and age cats well over 30.

Most dudes my age and up ain't bumping keef and can't stand drake in large doses don't get started on wayne.

Niggas been stuck in 98 for a minute.
 
Most rap nowdays (that's selling) isnt street oriented at all.

The game changed a long time ago. Even the biggest "street" rappers will only go gold at most nowdays.

It's all about making music that the everyday person can relate to (Kendrick Lamar, J Cole, etc), hipster/white suburban rap (Kid Cudi, Mac Miller, etc) or making a mix of emo/swag rap (Drake) if you wanna sell nowdays.

Street rappers like Freddie Gibbs, Trae, Freeway, Alley Boy, etc are dope to me, but probably don't have a high ceiling when it comes to sales (not anymore for Freeway, at least).

People like Big KRIT have a mix of conscious and street rap are also probably not really going to do big numbers.
 
the streets have plenty of real heads. "real" and the mainstream industry definition of real are two entirely different things.
 
The best don't bow to Da Enemy!

Mind manipulation through witchcraft is the way of The World!

Real renegades is above that so we gone cuase a stir!
 
A1000MILES;6010557 said:
The streets don't need rappers for guidance...The fuck...

thats like saying black folks aint need MLK or Malcom .........................

these artist of today are the MLKs and Malcoms of today ... i remember when nas first said that i thought he was crazy ... but its real talk ... they have the voice and the attention of the youth today ...

if you ever watch a child grow youll see how much mainstream impacts them ... everything they learn is from something external ... wether it be tv, book or other people ... monkey see monkey doo ... its just human nature tho .... and one thing about human nature is our animal instincts .... its like seeing a real attractive woman .... your automatically drawn to that ... you dont have to force it .... and people who SALE product are fully aware of these natural instincts .... and they play with it to get your attention and to sell you bull shit .................................................................

 
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