“The spell of Leviathan”

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toomy;4067726 said:
only to Ancestors. Even today the 24 Elders are not called
Gods, but Kings and Queens. That is the highest title of
respect among Black people.
22. The word God in our language is MO-DIMO.
The plural of that is BA-DIMO.
As you can see, it contains the sacred prefix BA, which
refers to people. MO refers to one person and is the singular
of BA. So MO-DIMO means one Ancestor, and BA-DIMO
means all the Ancestors.
23. MO (singular) and BA (plural) in MO-DIMO and BA-DIMO
are the same as those in the tribal names of many African
tribes, such as MO-TSWANA, BA-TSWANA and MO-SOTHO,
BA-SOTHO etc.
24. The word DIMO means high up or ascended. Therefore
BA-DIMO (GODS) means all the Ancestors on high and MODIMO
means the Most High One, which is the name of the
ONE PERSON - THE DIVINE UNITY OF ALL BLACK PEOPLE.
25. This word DIMO is the origin of the Latin word Deos
(God), which became the modern word Theo used in
Theology (from the Greek Theos). The Greeks and Latins
after them had a tendency to add 'S' to the end of words
as they were learning our language, such as when they
change Manu to Manus or Menes and Heru to Horus. So
they changed DIMO to 'Dimos' and finally to 'Deos'.
26. As soon as the white races (all the non-blacks) learned
of their maker, the concept of worship came into being,
and they worshipped YHWH as their God. So the true
concept of God, which belongs only to Ancestors, was
brought down from on high and applied to a living person
for the first time in the person of YA BA-HWEHU.
27. Before then, the concepts of worship and fear were
unknown, and Black people would never have used the
word 'God' (MODIMO) to refer to a person still living on
earth.
It would result in a clear contradiction because a
person cannot be living and ascended (dead) at the same
time, since MODIMO means one who is ascended.
28. But the white races saw no such contradiction because
they lacked knowledge of the intricate details of our
language. They just took our language and modified it in
almost endless ways until it suited their childish concepts
and eventually gave rise to the multitudes of white
languages in existence today.
29. Perhaps they can be forgiven for calling YHWH the Most
High because when they were taught of him by Moses,
YHWH was by then living on the earth of the star Sirius, which
I suppose can be considered as 'on high'.
Therefore by reason of their childish tongue, YA BA-HWEHU
became YAHWEHU and eventually YAHWEH, as it remains
to this day.
30. Those who are interested to know the full name 'King of
the white races' in the ancient language, I'll tell you. It's:
KHOSI YA BA-HWEHU
KHOSI means 'King'. That word is the origin of the word Kaiser
and Caesar (King).
31. In some West African languages, KHOSI is pronounced
KWESI.
In modern Setswana we say KHOSI YA BA-SWEU.
So the full name of YHWH is KWESI YA BA-HWEHU or KHOSI
YA BA-HWEHU.

This website below is said to contain evidence of Ancient Edomites (white ppl) worshipping a Yahweh god. This website refers to the Israelites as the white Jews of today.

http://www.biblearchaeology.org/post/2010/03/08/The-Name-Yahweh-in-Egyptian-Hieroglyphic-Texts.aspx

THE LAND OF THE SHASU OF YAHWEH

The two New Kingdom inscriptions which refer to “the Land of the Shasu of Yahweh” are found in topographical lists. One list is at Soleb and the second at Amarah-West.

Soleb, a temple dedicated to the god Amon-Re, was built by the Pharaoh Amenhotep III in ca. 1400 BC. Today it is located in the nation of Sudan, on the left bank of the Nile about 135 miles south of Wadi-Halfa.

Amarah-West, which is also located in Sudan, is a construction of Rameses II in the 13th century BC and has massive topographical lists inscribed in it. The section of the Amarah-West topographical list which contains the reference to “the land of the Shasu of Yahweh,” was almost certainly copied from the earlier list at Soleb.

It must be noted at this point that Egyptologists in general do not question the appearance of the name Yahweh in these two lists. For example, Donald Redford writes of the reference to Yahweh at Soleb:

For half a century it has been generally admitted that we have here the tetragrammaton, the name of the Israelite god “Yahweh”; and if this be the case, as it undoubtedly is, the passage constitutes the most precious indication of the whereabouts during the late 15th century BC of an enclave revering this god.

Redford identifies the Shasu of Yahweh with the Edomites and argues that Yahweh was at first worshipped as an Edomite god. He also argues that one tribe of Edomites split from the main body of Edomites, moved northwest, and became one of the tribes of the Israelites, taking their god Yahweh with them. For Redford, this explains how Yahweh became the God of the Israelites.

There are several problems with Redford’s position, and these will be dealt with later. It suffices here to note that there are almost no scholars who question the appearance of the name Yahweh at Soleb and Amarah-West.

The best discussion of the place names in Egyptian topographical lists that are related to the location of “the land of the Shasu of Yahweh” is that of Michael Astour in his chapter in the Festshrift Elmar Edel published in 1979. Astour points out that the place names listed at Soleb and Amarah-West include both Egyptian possessions in Syria-Palestine as well as non-Egyptian controlled ethnic groups and regions in that area.

The topographical lists that are of most interest are the group of texts which read “t3 Sh3sw of X”, or “Land of the Shasu of X,” where X is normally a place. Astour observes that, contrary to what has been stated by some other scholars, Donald Redford being a good example, not all of the Shasu lands mentioned by Amenhotep III, and copied by Rameses II, were located in the general areas of Syria, Lebanon, Canaan, Sinai, and Trans-Jordan.10

Even though Egyptologists accept the appearance of the name Yahweh in the topographical lists at Soleb and Amarah-West, the implications of its appearance do not seem to have been fully appreciated by Old Testament scholars. Of course the question remains, who or what is being referred to by the word Yahweh? Is it a reference to the God of Israel? Or is it just a reference to a town or city like any of the other toponyms beginning with t3 sh3sw?

In other words, should the phrase t3 sh3sw ya-h-wa be translated as “the land of the nomads who worship the God Yahweh” or should it be translated as “the land of the nomads who live in the area of Yahweh.” The answer to this is not known with absolute certainty, but even if Yahweh is a place in these hieroglyphic texts, it was clearly place named after the god Yahweh of the Old Testament. Anything less seems too coincidental. But let us look at Astour’s proposed locations of the other t3 Sh3sw toponyms in these lists at Soleb and Amarah-West.

Astour correlates the Amarah list of Rameses II with the Soleb list of Amenhotep III. He also correlates both of these lists with a parallel, but partial, topographical list of Rameses III which is located in his great mortuary temple at Medinet Habu on the west bank of the Nile at Luxor.

First let us look at Astour correlation of the parallel portions of the Amarah and Soleb lists. Both of the lists begin with a place called t3 sh3sw pys-pys, which Astour identifies with a spring in the Biqa Valley, near the Litani River in modern Lebanon.11 It is clearly located north of Canaan.

The second place in the two lists is Sa-ma-ta, a place that Astour again is quite certain as to its precise location. He identifies Sa-ma-ta with Samat, a site on the Phoenician coast some seven miles south of Batrun. This site is located north of Canaan in an area that is generally considered to be Phoenician, again far away from Edom.12

The third place name and the one that is of the greatest interest to us is “the Land of the Shasu of Yahweh.” Astour makes no attempt to locate this people group, and for a good reason. There is no topographical site in the entire region today that bears the name Yahweh or anything remotely similar. There is also no biblical reference or ancient historical source that mentions a topographical site named Yahweh. We will return to this point later.

Astour observes that the name Yahweh also appears in a topographical list at Medinet Habu (12th century B.C.) with the variant spelling yi-ha.13 This constitutes a third reference in hieroglyphic texts to Yahweh. However, in the Medinet Habu list, the phrase “the Land of the Shasu” has been omitted.

Astour believes that yi-ha is just a variant of ya-h-wa as found on the Soleb and Amarah-West topographical lists. He also believes that it refers to the same people since it is followed n all three lists by some version of a place called “the Land of the Shasu of Tu-ra/Tu-ra-ba-ar.” However, the Medinet Habu list has mistakenly split the name Tu-ra from the last elements of this place’s full name. Tu-ra-ba-ar, and has made this one locality into two places. Nevertheless, the full name t3 shsw tu-ra-ba-ar appears after the place mentioning Yahweh on both the Soleb and Amarah lists.
 
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toomy;4066093 said:
Yeah. According to Black Roots Science Yahweh along with his soulmate who is also called Yahweh was called lucifer, evil by his fellow Africans because he was preordained to bring forth evil in the world. He created the White race/light skinned race ( Asian, Mongolians whites, etc.. ) by repressing the dominant black germ that's found in all blacks/africans. He did this along with about 58,000 other 'volunteers' who becamed the Elohim once they ascended.

maybe that could be why their are two different creation stories in Genesis? The first one says that Elohim created man and female but the second one says Yahweh Elohim created Adam & Eve out of the dust of the earth.

Genesis 1:26
And Elohim said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth

So Elohim created man in his own image, in the image of Elohim created he him; male and female created he them.

Genesis 2:1
Thus the heavens and the earth were finished, and all the host of them.
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Now below Yahweh Elohim begins his creation...

Genesis 2:4
These are the generations of the heavens and of the earth when they were created, in the day that the YAHWEH Elohim made the earth and the heavens,

Genesis 2:7
And YAHWEH Elohim formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul.

And YAHWEH Elohim planted a garden eastward in Eden; and there he put the man whom he had formed.
 
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Gnostic Christians believed that Yahweh was father to Cain, can't confirm if their belief is true tho...

edit... gnostic scripture also states this.

Genesis 4:15
And Yahweh said unto him, Therefore whosoever slayeth Cain, vengeance shall be taken on him sevenfold. And Yahweh set a mark upon Cain, lest any finding him should kill him.

And Cain went out from the presence of Yahweh, and dwelt in the land of Nod, on the east of Eden.
 
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Thanks for the post. There's a lot of contridictory texts about Yahweh that's why I prefer Black Roots Science. It tells a straightforward story from beginning to end from the point of view of an African and not those crazy white people with agenda's of making their race superior to others.
 
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toomy;4072008 said:
Thanks for the post. There's a lot of contridictory texts about Yahweh that's why I prefer Black Roots Science. It tells a straightforward story from beginning to end from the point of view of an African and not those crazy white people with agenda's of making their race superior to others.

exactly bro I'm going to check that out... good to see more and more ppl are awakening from the mainstream religious spell that they push on the masses.
 
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toomy;4072008 said:
Thanks for the post. There's a lot of contridictory texts about Yahweh that's why I prefer Black Roots Science. It tells a straightforward story from beginning to end from the point of view of an African and not those crazy white people with agenda's of making their race superior to others.

Here is another site with interesting info...

http://www.opentheword.org/index.ph...glyphic-texts&catid=20:archaeology&Itemid=105

The Name Yahweh in Egyptian Hieroglyphic Texts

ST. PAUL, MN (ANS) -- The oldest historical mention of ancient Israel occurs in the Merneptah stele, an Egyptian monument dated to 1208 B.C. But mention of Israel's God, Yahweh, occurs even earlier in Egyptian inscriptions in conjunction with a group of people called the Shasu.

Among ancient Egyptian designations for types of foreign peoples in the New Kingdom Period (1550-1070 BC), the term Shasu occurs fairly frequently. It is generally accepted that the term Shasu means nomads or Bedouin people, referring primarily to the nomadic peoples of Syria-Palestine. There are two hieroglyphic references in New Kingdom Period texts to an area called "the land of the Shasu of Yahweh." Except for the Old Testament, these are the oldest references found in any ancient texts to the God Yahweh.

The Shasu were rarely if e! ver under the control of the Egyptian government and were almost always looked upon as enemies of the Egyptians. For example, at the famous Battle of Kadesh in ca. 1275 BC, there were Shasu soldiers who were allies of the Hittites against Ramses II. It is very likely that the Egyptians of the New Kingdom Period classified all of the ancient Edomites, Ammonites, Moabites, Amalekites, Midianites, Kenites, Hapiru, and Israelites as Shasu. There is even a reference dating to ca. 1250 BC in Papyrus Anastasi I to a group of giant Shasu living in Canaan who may be identified with the giants encountered by the Israelites at the time of the Exodus.

Reshef, a Canaanite god of war and thunder, seems to have been introduced into Egypt by the Hyksos. As king of the netherworld, Reshef was thought to bring plague and war upon humanity. The Egyptians depicted him in a distinctly Syrian style, with kilt, beard, and horned helmet, but he could also be shown wearing the White Crown of Upper Egypt and holding the Egyptian ankh and scepter, or sometimes h! olding Canaanite weapons. This, along with Reshef's insertion as a member of a trinity of deities with the god Min and the goddess Qadesh, shows the marked degree of syncretistic integration of foreign deities into the Egyptian pantheon.

However Yahweh was for some reason treated very differently. Clearly the Egyptians knew about Yahweh as can be seen in the Soleb and Amarah-West topographical lists, but they did not worship him, and they apparently did not want to worship him.

Nor was Yahweh equated to or identified with any Egyptian deity. There were no temples to Yahweh built by the Egyptians, nor were there any artistic representations made of him, or in fact even any discussions of him in Egyptian texts. It appears that the ancient Egyptians placed Yahweh into a category all by himself. To say the least, this is very strange for the syncretistic Egyptians. A possible explanation is that Yahweh was seen by the Egyptians as an enemy God, of an enemy triibal group which was a part of the hated Shasu peoples who lived north of Egypt.

check the site for more...
 
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Thanks. Yeah Yahweh was just an ordinary person like you and me. According to Black Roots science about 44,000 years before Yahweh was born the Black nation determined that it was time to bring forth evil/sin in the world. God is perfect. The Black Man and Woman are God ( according to BRS ). And because God was perfect he/she wanted to know what it was like to be imperfect. Therefore they began by degrating their perfect bodies and minds to bring forth evil/sin/decay so they can experience imperfection. In the perfect body/mind of the Black Woman/Man they could oly experience sin when they under went rituals. It was something that was only present in the back of their minds. When Yahweh created the white/non black races along with his soulmate and 58,000 volunteers it was done in secret. And he was not worship. Quite the opposite. He was chastised because he brought forth evil/decay/sin/suffering. He gave birth to the white race/non blacks. When someone brings forth suffering of course they would be looked at in disdained.
 
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toomy;4072008 said:
Thanks for the post. There's a lot of contridictory texts about Yahweh that's why I prefer Black Roots Science. It tells a straightforward story from beginning to end from the point of view of an African and not those crazy white people with agenda's of making their race superior to others.

did u read it in hebrew? and then after reading it did you STUDY it in hebrew? if so for how long and how consistently? if the examination has not been 100% thorough then it would be wise not to make the broad assertions you do. i read the black roots science stuff. some makes sense; some dont. imo it looks like the usual "conscious" ism thrown at us in these days that hides inaccuracies and purposeful distortions in a glut of information. but i cant make a firm assertion it is true or false because i havent dedicated myself to that path for an extended period of time. the inverse application of that principle is what im proposing to you. you can do what you want but i beg you be wise and humble on this journey.
 
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toomy;4072722 said:
Thanks. Yeah Yahweh was just an ordinary person like you and me. According to Black Roots science about 44,000 years before Yahweh was born the Black nation determined that it was time to bring forth evil/sin in the world. God is perfect. The Black Man and Woman are God ( according to BRS ). And because God was perfect he/she wanted to know what it was like to be imperfect. Therefore they began by degrating their perfect bodies and minds to bring forth evil/sin/decay so they can experience imperfection. In the perfect body/mind of the Black Woman/Man they could oly experience sin when they under went rituals. It was something that was only present in the back of their minds. When Yahweh created the white/non black races along with his soulmate and 58,000 volunteers it was done in secret. And he was not worship. Quite the opposite. He was chastised because he brought forth evil/decay/sin/suffering. He gave birth to the white race/non blacks. When someone brings forth suffering of course they would be looked at in disdained.

edit i will look into brs but do some research on Yahweh outside of mainstream christian literature... many sources claim him to be a living entity but just not the way he is depicted in mainstream religion.

I understand where you coming from that's why I think that the first creation story in genesis is when the original people were created but the second one which apparently happened many generations later is probably when other people were created such as Adam & Eve. Archaeology evidence suggest that whites were created only 6,000 years ago and according to the Bible Adam & Eve were created 6,000 years ago... but black civilization like Ancient Egypt, Sumerians and etc date back well over 20,000 years ago. When you read the Bible Adam & Eve were created by Yahweh NOT to have knowledge of good or evil. In my opinion animals such as lions have no knowledge of good or evil which is why they would rip someone up without guilt...but when Adam & Eve ate the fruit they gained a conscious of good and evil... that's interesting. And as you see the powers that be try to keep earth history as being less than 6,000 years cuz that's when they were created. If you click on this Biblical website below and look at the very top they give the creation of Adam & Eve to around 4,000B.C.
Also notice that all of the wars from whites against blacks began to occur in Ancient Egypt after these ppl were created and blacks have been oppressed ever since.

http://bible.cc/genesis/1-26.htm

Genesis 1:26
And Elohim said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth

So Elohim created man in his own image, in the image of Elohim created he him; male and female created he them.

Genesis 2:1
Thus the heavens and the earth were finished, and all the host of them.
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Now below Yahweh Elohim begins his creation...

Genesis 2:4
These are the generations of the heavens and of the earth when they were created, in the day that the YAHWEH Elohim made the earth and the heavens,

Genesis 2:7
And YAHWEH Elohim formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul.

And YAHWEH Elohim planted a garden eastward in Eden; and there he put the man whom he had formed.
 
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judahxulu;4073902 said:
did u read it in hebrew? and then after reading it did you STUDY it in hebrew? if so for how long and how consistently? if the examination has not been 100% thorough then it would be wise not to make the broad assertions you do. i read the black roots science stuff. some makes sense; some dont. imo it looks like the usual "conscious" ism thrown at us in these days that hides inaccuracies and purposeful distortions in a glut of information. but i cant make a firm assertion it is true or false because i havent dedicated myself to that path for an extended period of time. the inverse application of that principle is what im proposing to you. you can do what you want but i beg you be wise and humble on this journey.

No I didn't read it in Hebrew. The Hebrew that was spoken today is not the same spoken during Ancient times. Today's Hebrew was put together from bits and pieces of the ancient Hebrew language during the 18 century I believe. Honestly I haven't studied the bible as much as I have studied Black Roots Science. And I do not know the Hebrew language. The first time I really paid attention to Yahweh was when I was at college listening to a speach by a visiting preacher. The preacher said the name Yahweh as if it was forbidden. This brought out my curiousity.
I can personally confirm that Black Roots Science is true just from my own personal experience. And also just by looking at the state of the world today which is filled with War, violence, poverty and famine. It's my personal experience of dealing having being affected badly financially by White people that have lead me to Black Roots Science. I perfectly understand why others may not take to it and I say to each their own.
 
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beenwize;4074103 said:
edit i will look into brs but do some research on Yahweh outside of mainstream christian literature... many sources claim him to be a living entity but just not the way he is depicted in mainstream religion.

I understand where you coming from that's why I think that the first creation story in genesis is when the original people were created but the second one which apparently happened many generations later is probably when other people were created such as Adam & Eve. Archaeology evidence suggest that whites were created only 6,000 years ago and according to the Bible Adam & Eve were created 6,000 years ago... but black civilization like Ancient Egypt, Sumerians and etc date back well over 20,000 years ago. When you read the Bible Adam & Eve were created by Yahweh NOT to have knowledge of good or evil. In my opinion animals such as lions have no knowledge of good or evil which is why they would rip someone up without guilt...but when Adam & Eve ate the fruit they gained a conscious of good and evil... that's interesting. And as you see the powers that be try to keep earth history as being less than 6,000 years cuz that's when they were created. If you click on this Biblical website below and look at the very top they give the creation of Adam & Eve to around 4,000B.C.

Also notice that all of the wars from whites against blacks began to occur in Ancient Egypt after these ppl were created and blacks have been oppressed ever since.

http://bible.cc/genesis/1-26.htm

Genesis 1:26

And Elohim said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth

So Elohim created man in his own image, in the image of Elohim created he him; male and female created he them.

Genesis 2:1

Thus the heavens and the earth were finished, and all the host of them.

---------------------------------------------------

Now below Yahweh Elohim begins his creation...

Genesis 2:4

These are the generations of the heavens and of the earth when they were created, in the day that the YAHWEH Elohim made the earth and the heavens,

Genesis 2:7

And YAHWEH Elohim formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul.

And YAHWEH Elohim planted a garden eastward in Eden; and there he put the man whom he had formed.

Our earth and solar system were created 78

trillion years ago. As soon as the earth was

ready, 144,000 ancestors came from another

star system, the star called Sirius that was worshipped by the

ancient Egyptians. They inhabited the earth after preparing

it by seeding it with plant and animal life. After about 7,000

years since their arrival, their population increased from

144,000 to one billion eight million (1b8m).

2. This number, 1b8m, is the most sacred number in

creation. It is the total number of original people who

inhabited the first earth of our universe countless trillions of

years ago. Thus every earth inhabited thereafter keeps this

number as their final and stable population. It was

determined to be the ideal number of people that can

inhabit a planet the size of earth in complete comfort,

without imposing on each other or on the natural resources,

as well as on the animals and plants. That enables

complete freedom of movement for all life on the planet,

and this is essential for peace, prosperity, and spiritual

growth (the gaining of knowledge).

As you can see from this passage BRS says Black People are waaay older than 20,000 years. BRS does not contridict the bible in any way. Atleast in my opinion. Also BRS is not traditional literature. I use Black ROots Science as a foundation. It has taken my a good 6 months to read through half of BRS text and a couple of more months to absorb it all. And from there I have tried to study other text such as hinduism, buddihism, zoroasterism, the bible. And I see that what's in the bible can be supported in more detail by Black Roots Science.
 
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Kirk;4074012 said:
The Nuwaubian cult was lead by a child molester. It was a scam, it was all bullshit, black people got taken in by a con artist and he molested their children.

True story.

all lies. If you talk to the Nuwaubians they would say that they were force to tell lies by the racists people in Georgia. A black man building a big pyramid in country hick town in Georgia...anybody with an ounce of common sense knew what the outcome would be.
 
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toomy;4079232 said:
all lies. If you talk to the Nuwaubians they would say that they were force to tell lies by the racists people in Georgia. A black man building a big pyramid in country hick town in Georgia...anybody with an ounce of common sense knew what the outcome would be.

damn have anybody tell you that you post and the way you structure your words and use Punctuation just like beenwize, i notice that a few days ago, but hey
 
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toomy;4079232 said:
all lies. If you talk to the Nuwaubians they would say that they were force to tell lies by the racists people in Georgia.
then i imagine you could probably cite an example of this?

it's also not a great sign when your argument is less "i did not do these things" and more "i believe myself to be immune from prosecution"
 
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jus cuz someone is thinking outside of the box of mainstream religion does not mean it is me...
 
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be blessed brothers and sisters. No I am not beenwize. I have been told by janklow the moderator that the words that I post sounds defensive and harsh so I edit my words carefully...
 
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