The Saga of the Legend Known as Dretox/Shadyteam/Wonderland/HazeNAlize/Bigavelli/Piff

[buttuh_b]

People who think Illmatic doesn't have replay value just don't really get it. I've had that album for almost 10 years, and I still have a great time listening to it. One of the purest hip hop albums ever.

Exactly. I don't see how it doesn't have replay value.

 

[ShadyTeam]

oooh ok.............Wait a min, is that u kissin another Chick lol??? In ur Default pick lol????

Yeh, why is there a problem? lol

 

[krow132]

how can an album be a classic and have no replay value. That makes no fucking sense.

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[[Trillmatic]]

illmatic lacking replay value? rofl, iv'e officially heard it all.

 

[buttuh_b]

The younger generation of Rap listeners from the 5 boroughs not appreciating the classic era not just Musically but culture wise a lotta the young New Yorkers today would not wear Adidas like how old skool New Yorkers did bac in the day and Hip-Hop is a culture so how can you be rocking Ed Hardy yet clowning people that wear Adidas when Adidas was the core of classic New York Hip Hop culture in the 80's & 90's

Even some of the new skool New York Rappers like Jay Z, Fabolous & Nas still wear Adidas maybe they getting paid to wear it but they know the history behind the track top's and shell toes they know what the 3 stripes meant in NYC bac in the day

You just have to look at a thread someone made in the fashion section where they said 'can you yake black people wearing Adidas seriously' to me that shows how people don't know about street and Hip-Hop culture i'm not saying everyone should wear Adidas just cos they like Rap but it's always been a credible brand in the street and will continue to be

lmfao!!!!!!!!! oh my god I'm crying over here. you can't be serious!!!!!!!!! ahahahahhahahahahhahahahahaha

 

[Yung_Souf_Money]

they fucked up and fell off when they started dissing the south if you seen a problem in hiphop come out with better albums stop bitching, easy as that

 

[Knives Amilli]

NY fell off for a number of reasons.

Your kind of on to something, tho. One of the reasons NY did fall off was due to NY rappers no longer wanting to be NY rappers. Jay, 50, and Dipset made that former drug dealer, crack rap, former gangsta, "I'm a hustler not a rapper shit" popular and all of a sudden every1 had a gimmick and no one had any individuality. You saw 1 smack DVD, you saw all of em.

 

[JQUEENS21]

Racism, i mean damn some people got to much hate in em

You are the racist. I am like Eminem, I am young and I am mad by the nonsense you spew out. So I was on emotion. You are generalizing, segregating the universal language of music. You defend Eminem for what I did, that means you are calling Eminem racist as well. That is call the what is good for the goose is good for the gander reasoning. Thank you for falling for it.

 

[ShadyTeam]

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[buttuh_b]

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Don't get me wrong Adidas is a cool lil brand. Shell toes can be clean on some chillin shit.. and the lil track jackets and all that.. but you just gotta understand that fashion evolves and people wear what they want to wear. Nothing wrong with that. Your descriptions of "hip hop culture" is super stereotypical and obviously coming from someone who never lived or experienced American life. What you see on music videos, documentaries, etc.. is one thing and what it really is is another. Thats like if someone was wearing bell bottoms thinkin they fresh in 2010. It's a different time. Has nothing to do with why NY fell off.

 

[gman82]

The replay value of Illmatic is what makes it great and a classic. This album is not consider by many people the greatest of all-time for no reason. The majority of rappers still haven't reached the lyrically level of Illmatic til this day! When you listen to Illmatic, its obvious that it was recorded in the mid 90's but that doesn't mean it has no replay value. The fact that your still listening to it means that it has replay value.

 

[ShadyTeam]

Don't get me wrong Adidas is a cool lil brand. Shell toes can be clean on some chillin shit.. and the lil track jackets and all that.. but you just gotta understand that fashion evolves and people wear what they want to wear. Nothing wrong with that. Your descriptions of "hip hop culture" is super stereotypical and obviously coming from someone who never lived or experienced American life. What you see on music videos, documentaries, etc.. is one thing and what it really is is another. Thats like if someone was wearing bell bottoms thinkin they fresh in 2010. It's a different time. Has nothing to do with why NY fell off.

I mean i been to America and in my City street culture is a bunch of young people sitting in housing project staircases smoking weed or standing on the street corners just protecting the block

Sagging pant's, wearing bandanas over the face etc is part of street culture too

It might sound streotpical but that's what it's about Hip-Hop is for the under classes

 

[buttuh_b]

I mean i been to America and in my City street culture is a bunch of young people sitting in housing project staircases smoking weed or standing on the street corners just protecting the block

Sagging pant's, wearing bandanas over the face etc is part of street culture too

It might sound streotpical but that's what it's about Hip-Hop is for the under classes

That's super stereotypical. So because you're from the streets you have to sit in staircases smoking weed or dress a certain way. Thats super corny. What about people from the streets who get their education and wear clothes that fit them? What about people from the streets who are in programs like the boys and girls club, etc.. Play sports, etc.. you're thinking inside a box. I know you haven't been to the U.S. You're judging on surface shit. Its easy to talk all that fuck shit from the outside looking in. Who the fuck are you to assess what street culture is and what we should be wearing??

 

[JQUEENS21]

I mean i been to America and in my City street culture is a bunch of young people sitting in housing project staircases smoking weed or standing on the street corners just protecting the block

Sagging pant's, wearing bandanas over the face etc is part of street culture too

It might sound streotpical but that's what it's about Hip-Hop is for the under classes

No, it is called racism.

 

[cosa88]

New York didn't fall off. The old heads never gave the Generation behind them a chance, so they kinda missed there wave. And it set the whole NY back.

 

[AntnysWorld]

New York didn't fall off. The old heads never gave the Generation behind them a chance, so they kinda missed there wave. And it set the whole NY back.

Old heads never gave who a chance? This isn't something that you hand down. The older rappers don't own Hip Hop... the old white people behind the desks and the fans have control over it. There's nothing that KRS ONE or Slick Rick could've said to prevent the next generation of rappers from being successful. Jay, Nas, BIG, etc didn't say " ay Rakim! ay KRS! you old niggas need to move out the way. " They just did their thing and didn't make any excuses. A lot of rappers from New York aren't disciplined in the way they handle their careers. That's what happened to New York's Hip Hop scene.

 

[gee757]

The younger generation of Rap listeners from the 5 boroughs not appreciating the classic era not just Musically but culture wise a lotta the young New Yorkers today would not wear Adidas like how old skool New Yorkers did bac in the day and Hip-Hop is a culture so how can you be rocking Ed Hardy yet clowning people that wear Adidas when Adidas was the core of classic New York Hip Hop culture in the 80's & 90's

Even some of the new skool New York Rappers like Jay Z, Fabolous & Nas still wear Adidas maybe they getting paid to wear it but they know the history behind the track top's and shell toes they know what the 3 stripes meant in NYC bac in the day

You just have to look at a thread someone made in the fashion section where they said 'can you yake black people wearing Adidas seriously' to me that shows how people don't know about street and Hip-Hop culture i'm not saying everyone should wear Adidas just cos they like Rap but it's always been a credible brand in the street and will continue to be

dretox i like da nu avi is that how yall get it n n da suana?? lol but CUUUUUURRY is 2 blame fa nyz downfall...eva since this snitch hook'd up wit da redneck marshall & got rich he has dun nuttin but prey on sum1z down fall from ny 2 ca...,.but since cuuuuurryz run @ da top n rap is ova & hez playin a cancer patient n hollywood da ny rap scene finally has a chance 2 cum back i guess since da soap opra dramaqueen CUUURRY has move on 2 HOLLYWOOD...lol

 

[sickbizzle]

dretox i like da nu avi is that how yall get it n n da suana?? lol but CUUUUUURRY is 2 blame fa nyz downfall...eva since this snitch hook'd up wit da redneck marshall & got rich he has dun nuttin but prey on sum1z down fall from ny 2 ca...,.but since cuuuuurryz run @ da top n rap is ova & hez playin a cancer patient n hollywood da ny rap scene finally has a chance 2 cum back i guess since da soap opra dramaqueen CUUURRY has move on 2 HOLLYWOOD...lol

curry is to blame huh?

damn that curry!

 

[gee757]

^^ yess cuuuurry is da main reason fa ny fallin off..,..

 

[tri3w]

^^ yess cuuuurry is da main reason fa ny fallin off..,..

SMh...............No 50 isnt...........