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Jay>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Eminem
 
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usmarin3;1796575 said:
Who is the vast majority, Nas? The same nigga who magically ddidn't have Em on The Cross!

Aside from Jay and Game, who has Nas ever had on an Album with him that was a plat rapper???? Answer: None
 
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ptowndonte;1796574 said:
No, Nas fans accepted that Eminem killed him, because you niggas take everything Nas says and hold it dear to your hearts.

lmao. Nas is great but I don't rock with him like that. Shit, I think Super Ugly should have hurt a man a lot worse than Ether. It's just Jay-z is so homotional, him crying on the radio actually added an astronomical amount of strength to a semi-hot "diss track".
 
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usmarin3;1796548 said:
The niggas who said Em killed Jay on renegade are the same ones who said Nicki Minaj had the best verse on Monster. Yall are hearing, yall aren't listening. Em's delivery was better, but Jay-z lyrics and rhyme scheme was better.

These clowns wasnt saying that corny shit untill Nas said it on "Ether", JayZ ripped that track without sounding like a whiny pill-poppin' kid from the burbs...
Emenim ruined that song with his voice alone.

The freak Emenim stans spend their entire stan-lives talking about "Renegade" and Rakim co-signs...
 
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aone415;1796583 said:
Aside from Jay and Game, who has Nas ever had on an Album with him that was a plat rapper???? Answer: None

Diddy
Ludacris
Busta Rhymes
will.i.am
Kanye West
Snoop Dogg
Mobb Deep
Scarface
DMX
Foxy Brown
 
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aone415;1796583 said:
Aside from Jay and Game, who has Nas ever had on an Album with him that was a plat rapper???? Answer: None

Puffy, Busta Rhymes, Ludacris, Scarface,etc. Dude don't argue with me about hiphop knowledge or Nas, dude is my second favorite rapper.
 
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H-Rap 180;1796597 said:
These clowns wasnt saying that corny shit untill Nas said it on "Ether", JayZ ripped that track without sounding like a whiny pill-poppin' kid from the burbs...
Emenim ruined that song with his voice alone.

The freak Emenim stans spend their entire stan-lives talking about "Renegade" and Rakim co-signs...

Notice that there's never been an Eminem and Rakim track...
 
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jonathand;1796595 said:
lmao. Nas is great but I don't rock with him like that. Shit, I think Super Ugly should have hurt a man a lot worse than Ether. It's just Jay-z is so homotional, him crying on the radio actually added an astronomical amount of strength to a semi-hot "diss track".

So can you honestly tell me that before Ether, your mind was set on Eminem being the victor of Renegade?
 
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usmarin3;1796575 said:
Who is the vast majority, Nas? The same nigga who magically ddidn't have Em on The Cross!

Ok, maybe majority is a tad to powerful in relation to this equation. However, I do know Jay-z fans who rode with him during the Nas beef yet, acknowledge he got killed on Renegade. I mean this shit is like a fact in rap right now.
 
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usmarin3;1796601 said:
Puffy, Busta Rhymes, Ludacris, Scarface,etc. Dude don't argue with me about hiphop knowledge or Nas, dude is my second favorite rapper.

Puff didnt rap on a Nas song... Luda and Face I forgot.. Altho Luda was on Virgo on the SD joint... and Busta on the Fried Chicken joint... the point was that Nas isnt the type of rapper actively seeking out the "HOT" dude to be on HIS albums... every artist you named is respected (except Puff). 6 High profile features over 10 albums is pretty meager compared to Jay... and Jay is my 2nd fav rapper.
 
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jonathand;1796606 said:
Ok, maybe majority is a tad to powerful in relation to this equation. However, I do know Jay-z fans who rode with him during the Nas beef yet, acknowledge he got killed on Renegade. I mean this shit is like a fact in rap right now.

Got killed really, a unreliable poll from a limited sample is a majority opinion. Look at Jay-z career since ether and look at Nas career since, lets be real about the Jay-z Nas beef. It was about underground vs mainstream, the system vs the little man, the winner vs the loser,etc and that's why niggas rode for Nas like that. It wasn't about winners or losers, it was more of what Jay-z represented (the corporation, the bully,etc) and what Nas represented (the little man, the purist).
 
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ptowndonte;1796603 said:
So can you honestly tell me that before Ether, your mind was set on Eminem being the victor of Renegade?

Sure did. The second verse sealed the deal for me. I mean Jay-z has more enjoyable music than Eminem and surely never out out an album as bad as relapse. However, bar for bar, the whiteboy will destroy him...
 
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I Never ever heard a poster on the IC mention poverty living in the hood when breaking down Eminem's content

You motherfuckaz conveniently forgot about

If I Had

Rock Bottom

8 Mile Road

Lose Yourself

Rabbit Run

Sing For The Moment

I hear every pussy like usmarin3 mention Eminem making song's abnout his mother though

However Eminem has in his entire career only recorded one song about his mother called Cleaning Out My Closet no where in the song did he say anything remotley close about killing her or raping her all he spoke about was them being so poor and her addiction

Haters love making up lies i guess
 
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jonathand;1796623 said:
Sure did. The second verse sealed the deal for me. I mean Jay-z has more enjoyable music than Eminem and surely never out out an album as bad as relapse. However, bar for bar, the whiteboy will destroy him...

If thats how you feel. Personally, Eminem, Lil Wayne, & Tupac are hip-hop's most overrated figures
 
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usmarin3;1796617 said:
Got killed really, a unreliable poll from a limited sample is a majority opinion. Look at Jay-z career since ether and look at Nas career since, lets be real about the Jay-z Nas beef. It was about underground vs mainstream, the system vs the little man, the winner vs the loser,etc and that's why niggas rode for Nas like that. It wasn't about winners or losers, it was more of what Jay-z represented (the corporation, the bully,etc) and what Nas represented (the little man, the purist).

Real talk... It was also about Nas standing up. Nas had fallen on hard times trying to be a Don and it wasnt him... Jay bodied and buried him with Takeover. Most people didn't think Nas could get up from that. He did and became the new/old hero to the underground again.
 
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Dretox2010;1796633 said:
I Never ever heard a poster on the IC mention poverty living in the hood when breaking down Eminem's content

You motherfuckaz conveniently forgot about

If I Had
Rock Bottom
8 Mile Road
Lose Yourself
Rabbit Run
Sing For The Moment

I hear every pussy like usmarin3 mention Eminem making song's abnout his mother though

However Eminem has in his entire career only recorded one song about his mother called Cleaning Out My Closet no where in the song did he say anything remotley close about killing her or raping her all he spoke about was them being so poor and her addiction

Haters love making up lies i guess

Show us the hood actually fuckin with Eminem
 
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aone415;1796602 said:
Notice that there's never been an Eminem and Rakim track...

If Rakim was a whore for record-sales and record-spins Im sure he would have done the emenim songs and let Dre turn him into a coke-rapper like he did Busta. LOL

Rakim would rather be on a track with Nas & Nas would rather be on a track with Scarface.

Im sure Michael Jordan would rather play 1 on 1 with Lebron or Kobe instead of Steve Nash......that Ememin kid is accepted but his appeal aint there for most of us.
 
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Outta 6 Albums Eminem made 1 Song addressing his mother yes it was a Single and succesful but one damn song in 10 years and usmarine3 act's like that is somethin he based his content on

And these clowns claim to have actually listened to his Album's
 
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aone415;1796614 said:
Puff didnt rap on a Nas song... Luda and Face I forgot.. Altho Luda was on Virgo on the SD joint... and Busta on the Fried Chicken joint... the point was that Nas isnt the type of rapper actively seeking out the "HOT" dude to be on HIS albums... every artist you named is respected (except Puff). 6 High profile features over 10 albums is pretty meager compared to Jay... and Jay is my 2nd fav rapper.

Oh really, so Nas didn't run to Lauryn Hill at the height of their popularity, he didn't run to Will I Am at the height of his popularity, he didn't run to Timbaland at the height of his popularity, didn't run to Chris Brown,etc. Stop the bullshit dude, stop treating Nas like he is this religious figure, he is a oppurtunist like Jayz is.
 
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1 damn Song about his mother outta thousends of Song's he's made

Yet these Jay Z fan's get upset when people mention Jay Z predominantly Rapping about selling coke and wealth on the majority of his Album's

Crazy
 
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