The Real Talk Thread...

[thesynthesis]

lol real talk no wonder hip hop is fucked up it's these fans
not the rappers
these fans fucked hip hop up
we don't have real hip hop fans no more

yup

"rappers shudnt charge for shows"

"rappers shudnt charge for music"

"rappers shud do it for the luv"

luv aint gonna pay for how much it costs to put a classic album together lol

 

[JayToTheZ]

word

also ive lost music time and time on my ipod, that shit is prone to crashes, den u gotta do a reboot and put all the songs back, shits annoying

there is no real alternative to cd's, i mean if an album is wack den i will download, cuz i cud give a fuck less if i lose it, but i always cop whatever i feel is dope,

You must have a shitty iPod huh?
If your iPod crash's it doesn't delete anything. It just reboots...
CD's and CD players are just as unreliable. CD's can get scratches and can break. And CD Players are not as portable and can break....

 

[thesynthesis]

You have a point there. But the reason why it even cost money to make music in the first place is because of record labels and the industry......
Music should not be a industry. Producers, Director's, Album cover makers ect.. should not pay artist's for all that shit, Music should valentaraly made......

it costs money because the "EQUIPMENT" used to record, mix and master, and press these albums costs money....

if u cop a mpc 2500, for $900, u plug that shit into ur socket, u also paying for electricity everytime u use it....now imagine how much these "big studios" cost to run?

mixing one song can take 8 hrs to 3 days to mix, u expect these engineers to sit there and do this for free?,

music biz is a full time job, like every other industry

 

[JayToTheZ]

it costs money because the "EQUIPMENT" used to record, mix and master, and press these albums costs money....

if u cop a mpc 2500, for $900, u plug that shit into ur socket, u also paying for electricity everytime u use it....now imagine how much these "big studios" cost to run?

mixing one song can take 8 hrs to 3 days to mix, u expect these engineers to sit there and do this for free?,

music biz is a full time job, like every other industry

Yeah but rappers nowadays take rapping as a job....
They should work like the rest of us, AKA have regular jobs so that they could pay for producing tracks, equipment ect......

 

[thesynthesis]

You must have a shitty iPod huh?
If your iPod crash's it doesn't delete anything. It just reboots...
CD's and CD players are just as unreliable. CD's can get scratches and can break. And CD Players are not as portable and can break....

my shit crashed, i had to do a clean wipe, this has happened with every model of the ipod i have brought over the last 8 years

i hate ipods, they do look good however and the sound quality is always louder than ur conventional mp3 player

cd's do get scratched, but they look good in ur collection so u can show ur future seeds, i guess some of us niggas is from a different era.....

 

[HipHopFiend91]

it wasn't the best album in 96 but it wasn't overrated Jay had bars for days on that album.

 

[thesynthesis]

Yeah but rappers nowadays take rapping as a job....
They should work like the rest of us, AKA have regular jobs so that they could pay for producing tracks, equipment ect......

if ur putting down classic music den u have no need to work in walmart

 

[ustreet_monsta]

2 of the worst posters of all time dominating the discussion in this thread.

Of all time.

When is Shady Team gonna show up to complete the trifecta?

 

[Makaveli The King]

it wasn't the best album in 96 but it wasn't overrated Jay had bars for days on that album.

jay did have bars on that album

here are the lyricist that were better in 1996
then jay

ras kass
andre 3000
pac
g rap
nas

 

[#1 pick]

It's an internet classic, I rarely hear anyone in GA that's not from NY/NJ listening to this who isn't a diehard Jay-Z stan.

 

[DMTxTHC]

2 of the worst posters of all time dominating the discussion in this thread.

Of all time.

When is Shady Team gonna show up to complete the trifecta?

Since JaytotheZ is new, i'm gonna admit that i don't know who you're talking about.

And for what it's worth, i actually own Reasonable Doubt.

 

[HipHopFiend91]

jay did have bars on that album

here are the lyricist were better in 1996

then jay

ras kass

andre 3000

pac

g rap

nas

those are all good rappers but the only ones meeting up with jay lyrically are Nas and Kass

 

[thesynthesis]

Since JaytotheZ is new, i'm gonna admit that i don't know who you're talking about.

And for what it's worth, i actually own Reasonable Doubt.

word i respect that,

this topic went from is RD a classic to "rappers shud give music away for free and do it for the art"

 

[Makaveli The King]

those are all good rappers but the only ones meeting up with jay lyrically are Nas and Kass

[video=youtube;bkBXGtJcqhM]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bkBXGtJcqhM[/video]

andre 3000 is ill lyrically the way he enunciates his rhymes are bananas to me.

 

[HipHopFiend91]

[video=youtube;bkBXGtJcqhM]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bkBXGtJcqhM[/video]

andre 3000 is ill lyrically the way he enunciates his rhymes are bananas to me.

nah jay lyrically>>>>andre, as matter of fact big boi>>>andre

 

[DMTxTHC]

word i respect that,

this topic went from is RD a classic to "rappers shud give music away for free and do it for the art"

Taken from an older thread^^^

Rd is a great album, but i still don't think it's a classic. Imo his only true classic is BP. RD had more lyrics from Jay that were better lyrically, but it barely made a splash in 96's climate, not to mention it wasn't even the best album of 96.

Lol @ the bolded, people never heard of mixtapes? who would want a rapper to not get paid? rapping is a job as well.

 

[king hassan]

nah they album came out in 1997.

Damn, another mis cue on my part

 

[thesynthesis]

Taken from an older thread^^^

Rd is a great album, but i still don't think it's a classic. Imo his only true classic is BP. RD had more lyrics from Jay that were better lyrically, but it barely made a splash in 96's climate, not to mention it wasn't even the best album of 96.

Lol @ the bolded, people never heard of mixtapes? who would want a rapper to not get paid? rapping is a job as well.

much respect

c/s everything u said

 

[ustreet_monsta]

How is the album overrated??

Whether its better than say Muddy Waters or Soul on Ice is an opinion and has nothing to do with if RD is good or classic. You basically made a thread about your favorite albums from '96 and singled one album out to say it wasnt shit.

IMO Reasonable Doubt is one of the best "hustling/trapping" genre albums to come out. Better than Cuban Linx cuz its more realistic and relate-able and better than IWW cuz it's based on real life and facts. '96 was one of the greatest years for rap. There was so much diversity in the mainstream and underground that you could choose any acclaimed album and say it was the best depending on what your criteria is.

 

[a_list]

let's look at the albums that came out in 1996

soul on ice

all eyez on me

the score

muddy waters

atliens

stakes is high

ridin dirty

illadelph hallife

ressurection

the other side of the law

hell on earth

the coming

wrath of the math

enigma

firing squad

killuminati the 7 day theory

iron man

da storm

nocturnal

it was written

when you look at the quality of albums that came out do yall really think that

most people were banging reasonble doubt.

yo only listed albums on par or better than rd are stakes is high, iww and ironman...thats a nice list but nah...and dont act like 8 million sold was happening all of the time..... a gold album is not too bad