The only 4 Emcees that's in everybody's top 5....Rank them

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saracenwire;7960196 said:
I don't think Nas is in everyone's top 5. He's in a lot of peoples top 5 but, he doesn't resonate across the culture like the other 3.

everyone who listens to rap on more than a casual level has nas in their top 5

 
TheGOAT;7960833 said:
raheemclassick;7960748 said:
I know what the TS asked, but, my top 5 Album's No order > Reasonable Doubt, Illmatic, Paid In Full, Long Live The Kane, Doggy Style.

Illmatic

Reasonable Doubt

Ridin Dirty

E.1999

Doggystyle

Top 5 albums is a tough one. Not 100percent sure that is my final answer
Your choices are respected here"

 
mryounggun;7960605 said:
Kwan Dai;7960541 said:
_Lefty;7960518 said:
Kwan Dai;7960467 said:
_Lefty;7960454 said:
Kwan Dai;7960415 said:
_Lefty;7960374 said:
Scarface

Lupe

Jay-Z

UGK

Nas

Honorable Mention: Jeezy

There's no such thing as "should be in everybody's top 5". Can we make this thread the thread where we recognize the subjectivity of hip hop. Your top 5 is never going to match mine because we live different lives, and what I listen for in hip hop might not be the same as you. You can't tell too many white boys that eminem ain't the greatest of all time just like niggas can't tell me Scarface ain't the GOAT. Lupe is the most lyrical rapper i've ever heard, but a lot of niggas won't believe that, and it's cool. It's all subjective, niggas been beatin dead horses due to boredom for years startin these corny ass threads. Ya'll wanna start a thread, do a series for niggas to make a case for these "obvious" choices. Start with Big, Pac, Nas, Hov, and Rakim, or whoever you feel like is obvious. As long as people like Flo-Rida don't appear in the series, it should be dope. Maybe you might sway some people, incite good, evolved convo, not this rap city the basement shit, that ship has sailed, somebody might give a history lesson that make you look at an artist different, who knows, but I do know, ya'll can't keep hittin niggas wit this.

Aint shit going to change. And anyone that doesn't reserve the top spots for the fathers\creators\pioneers of this Hip Hop MCing shit are all frauds in my opinion and are only interested in repping their city, era and personal opinions..

Hip hop is art. Art is subjective. Bob Ross might be better than picasso to a lot of niggas. Some people like pepsi, some people like Coke. At this point, we've done the top 5 spinoff thread so many times, might as well take it to another level. Without turning them into appreciation threads, make a case for why these common names should be in the top 5. You have the surface discussion mastered, now mine deeper. You don't just keep diggin at the same level. If pac keep showin up for ya'll, and he's not in mine, why is he in ya'lls. Makes for better discussion I think.

While Art is subjective. There are indisputable facts and evidence as to who the creator\pioneers are. I am not going to go around and around with people that want to dispute facts while, not giving the creators their deserved spots because, of someone circle jerk of an argument (subjectivity).

When it's obvious that's one thing, but there's artists, many more than 5 that have an argument for that designation. That's where the discussion really begins. You can give credence to the pioneers, that doesn't mean they are the most skilled. A top 5 spot is for one who is the most skilled, but like I said, see where we butt heads? I think it's for the most skilled, but my personal top 5 is who I like the most regardless of skill because jeezy's not more skilled than anybody lol, but yours reserves spaces for pioneers out of respect, neither one of us is wrong. So many people have a case for a spot.

And that's the rub. My top 5 isn't based on who I like. It's base of this fact and this fact alone the Top 5 MC's that should occupy those spots would do so because, without them there is nothing after them. Without their blueprints, skills, creativity, and heart their is no Hip Hop MCing in it current incarnations.

Interesting. I'd say you're definitely in the minority with this thought process.

I have no doubts about this. I choose to actually respect the culture and it's architects and not let my personal bias, get in the way.

 
Kwan Dai;7962500 said:
mryounggun;7960605 said:
Kwan Dai;7960541 said:
_Lefty;7960518 said:
Kwan Dai;7960467 said:
_Lefty;7960454 said:
Kwan Dai;7960415 said:
_Lefty;7960374 said:
Scarface

Lupe

Jay-Z

UGK

Nas

Honorable Mention: Jeezy

There's no such thing as "should be in everybody's top 5". Can we make this thread the thread where we recognize the subjectivity of hip hop. Your top 5 is never going to match mine because we live different lives, and what I listen for in hip hop might not be the same as you. You can't tell too many white boys that eminem ain't the greatest of all time just like niggas can't tell me Scarface ain't the GOAT. Lupe is the most lyrical rapper i've ever heard, but a lot of niggas won't believe that, and it's cool. It's all subjective, niggas been beatin dead horses due to boredom for years startin these corny ass threads. Ya'll wanna start a thread, do a series for niggas to make a case for these "obvious" choices. Start with Big, Pac, Nas, Hov, and Rakim, or whoever you feel like is obvious. As long as people like Flo-Rida don't appear in the series, it should be dope. Maybe you might sway some people, incite good, evolved convo, not this rap city the basement shit, that ship has sailed, somebody might give a history lesson that make you look at an artist different, who knows, but I do know, ya'll can't keep hittin niggas wit this.

Aint shit going to change. And anyone that doesn't reserve the top spots for the fathers\creators\pioneers of this Hip Hop MCing shit are all frauds in my opinion and are only interested in repping their city, era and personal opinions..

Hip hop is art. Art is subjective. Bob Ross might be better than picasso to a lot of niggas. Some people like pepsi, some people like Coke. At this point, we've done the top 5 spinoff thread so many times, might as well take it to another level. Without turning them into appreciation threads, make a case for why these common names should be in the top 5. You have the surface discussion mastered, now mine deeper. You don't just keep diggin at the same level. If pac keep showin up for ya'll, and he's not in mine, why is he in ya'lls. Makes for better discussion I think.

While Art is subjective. There are indisputable facts and evidence as to who the creator\pioneers are. I am not going to go around and around with people that want to dispute facts while, not giving the creators their deserved spots because, of someone circle jerk of an argument (subjectivity).

When it's obvious that's one thing, but there's artists, many more than 5 that have an argument for that designation. That's where the discussion really begins. You can give credence to the pioneers, that doesn't mean they are the most skilled. A top 5 spot is for one who is the most skilled, but like I said, see where we butt heads? I think it's for the most skilled, but my personal top 5 is who I like the most regardless of skill because jeezy's not more skilled than anybody lol, but yours reserves spaces for pioneers out of respect, neither one of us is wrong. So many people have a case for a spot.

And that's the rub. My top 5 isn't based on who I like. It's base of this fact and this fact alone the Top 5 MC's that should occupy those spots would do so because, without them there is nothing after them. Without their blueprints, skills, creativity, and heart their is no Hip Hop MCing in it current incarnations.

Interesting. I'd say you're definitely in the minority with this thought process.

I have no doubts about this. I choose to actually respect the culture and it's architects and not let my personal bias, get in the way.

That statement itself is in fact, personal bias because you choose the criteria. First doesn't make you best. Put a caveman ass wheel on a Ferrari and try to drive to the gas station, let me know how that work for you. And there's nothing iron clad that says one MC is better than the next. To me, there's nothing like listening to lupe black out, but I got lil homies that swear by tupac because of what his music helped em get through in life. I got an OG who tell you Rakim the best of all time because he basically invented the flow that you hear so much today. There's so much you can draw from. Just because you believe something don't mean it's absolute, that's all i'm saying. I respect the fuck out of your opinion on this, and many other things i've read from you. You not wrong, you just not right either, if that make sense.
 
Trillaaaaaa;7964226 said:
dallas' 4 eva;7964172 said:
No Scarface T/S?

He's not automatically a name that slips out when discussing top 5's. I think he's top 15 tho

Scarface ain't never dropped a wack album. Made it cool to talk about death, god, and manic depression, and still be gangsta. He's also been dropping social commentary in his music since he's been around. He has never compromised himself to make more money and has been around since 1987. When he drops an album in 2015, it's still like a hip hop holiday. If he's not automatic, I don't know who is.
 

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