The OFFICIAL Self Made Vol. 1 Discussion Thread

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i saw that ross stans had high hopes, they promoted this album extremely well up here, but wat do you really expect from an album where the main guys barely scrapes gold....look at all the group/record labe albums and none of them usually come anywhere near what the main dude does solo....i think that g-unit album, young money, and d12 might be the only ones to reach plat within the past decade.....

 

[@My_nameaintearl]

dayum shit niggas should atleast try it tho.....

If "the black community" really does "support" Rick Ross, then they would have no problem voluntarily giving twenty bucks to download a Ross album from the web.

Right?

 

[Rhymesfinest]

I probably would have fucked with the album if it had more songs like hunnit which I feel was the best song leaked , i was in

the self made thread and a lot people was saying it sounded the same , I peeped some of tracks and there's was really nothing

new there , just the same rehashed sound i'm not spending money on that , i'm not wasting a download on that. the whole rick

ross is doing music for black fans is bullshit , its just an excuse on why he doesn't sell well. The reason he doesn't sell well is

because of the whole "C.O." fiasco if that would have happened differently he would probably sell more records and also he

makes the same damn song over and over which becomes stale very quickly . For Wale , Pill, and Meek Millz to be successful

they have to have their own sound and make their own type of music not beat a dead horse.

It's a bullshit excuse and in the bigger picture is offensive to a lotta blacks too

Rick Ross makes Gangsta Rap main content of topics is based around selling coke, being a big time coke king pin etc

Being a coke dealer is not black culture so to say Rick Ross makes black Music is disrespecting the blacks who worked hard went to college become Lawyers, Doctors etc and never ever commited crime

There are black drug dealers yes, theres white drug dealers yes, theres asian drug dealers yes and so on

But StillDreaming is so short sighted and sheltered it's crazy

 

[IceBergTaylor]

Exactly. Shouldn't we as hip-hop fans be happy that SOMEBODY is trying to bring that shit back, yet all we do is argue about how many white went out and bought the shit. Point blank the album is a banger and MMG bout to dominate yet another summer with this music. Ross showcased the talent he signed with this compiliation and for that I say mission pretty much accomplished. Go back and REALLY listen to this if you have it, Meek and Pill sound NOTHING alike.....

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You mean to tell me you can't tell the difference between meek and Pill on that?

When I first heard the album I had never listened to Meek or Pill so upon first listen I didnt know who was who. I think for people who never heard their music it isn't the most farfetched thing in the world to say they sorta sound alike. Now that I've heard the album more the only reason I can tell whose who is because Meek's voice is a whole lot lighter than Pills.

 

[Stew]

ruff ryders were pretty good

Exception to every rule. They had multi stars on that not just 1 or a half of one

 

[TRILLip Brooks]

do you consider beg for mercy & diplomatic immunity compilation album or group album

somebody awnser this question

 

[Rhymesfinest]

Some people so far from reality like StillDreaming that really think there are no white drug dealers out there

Crazy how people are so sheltered from reality

 

[Gee_has_hot_picture]

this crackaa thesynthesis in denial

u dont go gold without large white fan base

all of ross singles are the same as 50s, pretend gangsta shit, white people love it

Rick Ross - Hustlin' isnt considred coonery or sell out but how is 50 Cent - i get money

rick ross uses cookie cutter DJ khaled type ebats white folks eat up, but 50 does it its a different story, and its pop

also lol @ nigga said Ruff ryders flopped when they went plat

 

[PLASTIC RULES]

I probably would have fucked with the album if it had more songs like hunnit which I feel was the best song leaked , i was in

the self made thread and a lot people was saying it sounded the same , I peeped some of tracks and there's was really nothing

new there , just the same rehashed sound i'm not spending money on that , i'm not wasting a download on that. the whole rick

ross is doing music for black fans is bullshit , its just an excuse on why he doesn't sell well. The reason he doesn't sell well is

because of the whole "C.O." fiasco if that would have happened differently he would probably sell more records and also he

makes the same damn song over and over which becomes stale very quickly . For Wale , Pill, and Meek Millz to be successful

they have to have their own sound and make their own type of music not beat a dead horse.

I bump Shades/Contemplate/Prescription/Beautiful Bliss from Attention Deficit (Wale) almost daily. He has his own sound, so I hope his next album isn't polluted with Ricc False-esque fraud-rap.

 

[Rhymesfinest]

Yeah you might be on to something fam. Seems like you thinking deeper than most. I might not agree with how some white people dress but they have some things in their culture I admire.

I'm not black or white so i can look at things from a non biased perspective

I think a lotta black Americans can be insecure/low self esteem

It's understandable cos of what happended in the past but we are getting to the stage where race is over time getting more and more irrelevant

We got black skateboarders out there, black Golfers, white Rappers, white Hip Hop Producers, white Soul Artists etc

The lines of culture and race are getting blury that's a good thing it's all about unity like Bob Marley said

 

[gee757]

not all stans, the usual i.e gee, go any lloyd banks thread, and he'll remind you. i thought album could at least did the same numbers as teflon don, its not a big deal because that album is dope, i was just pointing that out

u stupid dumb faceless gggggay-unit lovin white boy stfu & stop typin my SN sayin stupid shit brick bankz did 42k da 1st wk on his SOLO album stupid cracka this is not a ROZAY solo stupid ggggay-unit lovin white boy & if da numberz is rite this is a win fa rozay cuz da last ggggay-unit release did 42k da 1st wk stupid faceless bitch aint nobody say this shit was gonna do big numberz cuz da white boy aint on it!

 

[Rhymesfinest]

And of course last but not least there is a black President

 

[H-Rap 180]

& Banks did what 45k on the independent route ?

Soooooo u gonna finally admit that no one is selling these days ? Banks did 45k on his own with no 50 Cent on debut singles. Ross did that with 4 niggas , one of which had a Lady Gaga co-sign LOLOL, 4 to 1 my nigga.... don't delude urself now fam..... so individually they woulda done what ? 10-15k a piece ? pitiful.....

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Sion, this is H-Rap not some brainless troll throwing a premature celebration on a rap forum because a "projection" told him that "Self-Made" will sell 50,000...Im not that naive.

I stated my projection which is documented (75K) and I stick by that...I use my pulse for these things not my emotions.

Lets have a conversation based on actual sales instead of "projections", because alot of Black folks get paid the last Friday of the month so when they do the scans on Tuesday we will see the actual number.

 

[Gee_has_hot_picture]

Yeah you might be on to something fam. Seems like you thinking deeper than most. I might not agree with how some white people dress but they have some things in their culture I admire.

i love dumb niggas on this forum say eminem stealing our culture, yet they got no problem taking shit from whites as if they got no culutre.

most poster like Hrap would be to afraid and cowardly to express there opinions in public, they be laughed at.

from now on eminem cant do hip hop, but niggas a white man invented the phone so u cant use them! IT MAKES U A HOuse nigga

 

[gee757]

i love dumb niggas on this forum say eminem stealing our culture, yet they got no problem taking shit from whites as if they got no culutre.

most poster like Hrap would be to afraid and cowardly to express there opinions in public, they be laughed at.

from now on eminem cant do hip hop, but niggas a white man invented the phone so u cant use them! IT MAKES U A HOuse nigga

cracka stfu & stop typin nigga white boy u is fukin PATHETIC bitch!

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Sion, this is H-Rap dont some brainless troll throwing a premature celebration on a rap forum because a "projection" told him that "Self-Made" will sell 50,000...Im not that naive.

I stated my projection which is documented (75K) and I stick by that...I use my pulse for these things not my emotions.

Lets have a conversation based on actual sales instead of "projections", because everybody alot of Black folks get paid the last Friday of the month so when they do the scans on Tuesday we will see the actual number.

good shit fam!

 

[PLASTIC RULES]

smh @ merging my thread with this garbage. reason mods STAY killing traffic in their own forum.

 

[Gee_has_hot_picture]

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Sion, this is H-Rap dont some brainless troll throwing a premature celebration on a rap forum because a "projection" told him that "Self-Made" will sell 50,000...Im not that naive.

I stated my projection which is documented (75K) and I stick by that...I use my pulse for these things not my emotions.

Lets have a conversation based on actual sales instead of "projections", because everybody alot of Black folks get paid the last Friday of the month so when they do the scans on Tuesday we will see the actual number.

BLACK PANTHER! NIGGAS GET pay checks on different days then whites LOL? did ur father leave ur mom for a white dude, now i wonder why those NO homo jokes get you so salty

please tell the community how blacks can be racist and whites cant

if a black kid was bullied for being black and made a racist tape, would u care? nope stop changing ur morals

 

[Rhymesfinest]

Great post.

I wish Bob Marley was still here .... I wonder what he'd say looking at Obama & everything.

Most definitley

It's great that a black man become President

If you look at stats more and more blacks are middle and upper class too

 

[Gee_has_hot_picture]

cracka stfu & stop typin nigga white boy u is fukin PATHETIC bitch!

internet virgin, your on this site probably everyday

you type like a 2 year old, nigga the way u hurt niggas is why stereotypes exist

and change your picture, your 1 ugly ass kid, over weight, u need go outside and get a bitch

i know ur on that Ross diet but you forgot the main ingredient, CASH, biggies first bitch looked like a man b4 he had doe

 

[Rhymesfinest]

sionb55 you a good guy