The OFFICIAL Self Made Vol. 1 Discussion Thread

[IceBergTaylor]

Wale and Meek will be out in 2011, Pill dropping in 2012.......its on the booklet included with album, but I guess you would have to buy it to know that. Nigga Pill and Meek sound nothing alike, are you serious or just talkin?

TO ME, Meek & Pill sound alike. Being that I never heard of neither one of them til I heard this album, I couldnt tell the difference. Like I said, its wonderful they wanna drop albums in the near future but neither one of them probably will. So dont get offended.

 

[thesynthesis]

The Re Up has sold about 4 Million

white skin tone goes a long way even when u put out the wackest of wacl albums.. i.e most of em's albums

 

[@My_nameaintearl]

white skin tone goes a long way even when u put out the wackest of wacl albums.. i.e most of em's albums

If Ross so black, why he name himself after a white man? There were lots of memorable black criminals for rappers to steal names from.

 

[Rhymesfinest]

the race card?

have you ever been to a rick ross show? his fanbsase is 99.9% black

compare that to a em show his fanbase is 99.9% white

now being that this is america, a white majority country, and seeing as white people are the biggest consumer of music, that includes rap music, who do you think will sell more?

if you have a large white fanbase you will always sell more than the rapper who's fanbase solely consists who black fans

gold is respectable but ross in terms of appealing to white people has a long way to go in order to get that jay z and kanye money

nobody expected mmg tp sell big numbers, they churned out music and through it out onthe market, on to the next

A huge contradiction you said Rick Ross fan base is 99% black

Then you said majority of the people who buy Rap Music are white people which actually has been re searched over years and is true

But Rick Ross has 4 Gold selling solo Albums

So that means he does have a huge white fan base buying his Albums if he has 4 Gold Albums

Just cos a lotta blacks attend his shows doesn't mean he doesn't have a massive white fan base you can't prove this either cos you never been to every Rick Ross concert in history

 

[c.b.b.]

I find it funny how people still stuck on that considering the type of Music Rick Ross and Mayback Music make you clowns acting like they make Music like Dead Prez

Gangsta Rap has always sold very high from NWA days generally people enjoy that kinda Music

You act like Suburban kids don't eat up that Gangsta/King Pin Drug Rap

It's a flop no denying that

As a CEO Rick Ross isn't gonna make much money none of the acts on his label gonna ever sell good

Look at how the Triple C's Album flopped on a major

Self Made flopped on a major

Rick Ross himself on a major can just about go Gold over a long period of time

The days of gangsta/drug rap selling are long gone.

Now days swag rap or Drake/love song music sells.

MMG's audience is pretty much all black, the only black rappers that suburban kids are mostly checking for are Kanye, Jay Z, Em, Dre,Weezy and Drake. Even 50 Cent isn't on demand anymore.

A G Unit compilation coming out today would sell around the same #s.

Ross' ceiling is going gold for the most part so naturally the artists under him aren't going to sell that many units on a group album.

 

[donnie500morton]

If Ross so black, why he name himself after a white man? There were lots of memorable black criminals for rappers to steal names from.

He did, Rick Ross is black

 

[Rhymesfinest]

I remember Dipset era from 2003 - 2006

Pretty much Dipset were making good Street Music but Street Music alot more darker and harder than the commercial easy to nod your head to Music Rick Ross/Maybach Music do

Yet no 1 was going around saying Dipset don't have a white fan base

I just think on the IC people are desperate for a Rapper they luv to not be associated with white people which is just silly really

 

[Rhymesfinest]

The days of gangsta/drug rap selling are long gone.

Now days swag rap or Drake/love song music sells.

MMG's audience is pretty much all black, the only black rappers that suburban kids are mostly checking for are Kanye, Jay Z, Em, Dre,Weezy and Drake. Even 50 Cent isn't on demand anymore.

A G Unit compilation coming out today would sell around the same #s.

Ross' ceiling is going gold for the most part so naturally the artists under him aren't going to sell that many units on a group album.

You say that but Suburban kids will always love Gangsta/Drug Rap to all of them it's like watching a movie really exciting and they like how it sounds

 

[thesynthesis]

A huge contradiction you said Rick Ross fan base is 99% black

Then you said majority of the people who buy Rap Music are white people which actually has been re searched over years and is true

But Rick Ross has 4 Gold selling solo Albums

So that means he does have a huge white fan base buying his Albums if he has 4 Gold Albums

Just cos a lotta blacks attend his shows doesn't mean he doesn't have a massive white fan base you can't prove this either cos you never been to every Rick Ross concert in history

contradiction?

if the majority brought ross albums he'd be right up there with kanye and jay

he bearly gets gold, which is mainly off the back of black people

old white women know who kanye and jay are, unlike ross.

50k plus is respectable for a group effort, for a mixtape that was converted into a album last minute, with no lead stand out single and limited promotion....not everyone has the luxury of being white and being called eminem who's fans will buy any doo doo he puts his name on to, like those wack ass d12 albums

 

[@My_nameaintearl]

He did, Rick Ross is black

smh at me not knowing that

ah well, Freeway already took the name of that drug dealer first

 

[H-Rap 180]

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[IceBergTaylor]

Man I went to college at SUNY Oneonta in upstate New York. I've heard tons of white people blasting "9 piece straight 8 balls!!"

 

[Rhymesfinest]

contradiction?

if the majority brought ross albums he'd be right up there with kanye and jay

he bearly gets gold, which is mainly off the back of black people

old white women know who kanye and jay are, unlike ross.

50k plus is respectable for a group effort, for a mixtape that was converted into a album last minute, with no lead stand out single and limited promotion....not everyone has the luxury of being white and being called eminem who's fans will buy any doo doo he puts his name on to, like those wack ass d12 albums

Be honest Maybach Music wether a Rick Ross solo Album or a complilation or another Maybach solo Rapper Album will probably never ever release an Album as great as Devils Night by D12

50K on a major label, with Singles/Videos, promotion and a known Rapper like Rick Ross all over it that is an epic flop

 

[c.b.b.]

contradiction?

if the majority brought ross albums he'd be right up there with kanye and jay

he bearly gets gold, which is mainly off the back of black people

old white women know who kanye and jay are, unlike ross.

50k plus is respectable for a group effort, for a mixtape that was converted into a album last minute, with no lead stand out single and limited promotion....not everyone has the luxury of being white and being called eminem who's fans will buy any doo doo he puts his name on to, like those wack ass d12 albums

Thank You, people can't expect Ross group to sell off of his name.

Nelly (as popular as he was) could barely get St Luntics to go plat

 

[thesynthesis]

You say that but Suburban kids will always love Gangsta/Drug Rap to all of them it's like watching a movie really exciting and they like how it sounds

minus ross name me gangsta rappers who shift records?

lupe?
BoB?
drake?
em?
kanye?
jay?
weezy?

everyone is off that gangsta shit, white people dont buy that typa music anymore, niggas wearing tight jeans rappin over electro beats and doin rock albums.

ross is the only artist in that gangsta lane and still selling records, cuz there is still a demand for that shit in the black community

if ross is goin only gold, what do you think his artists will go?

 

[Rhymesfinest]

Man I went to college at SUNY Oneonta in upstate New York. I've heard tons of white people blasting "9 piece straight 8 balls!!"

I know white dudes that got his Albums too

 

[Stew]

smh @ this turning into another typical racial thread. yall niggas lost for feeding her

 

[thesynthesis]

Be honest Maybach Music wether a Rick Ross solo Album or a complilation or another Maybach solo Rapper Album will probably never ever release an Album as great as Devils Night by D12

50K on a major label, with Singles/Videos, promotion and a known Rapper like Rick Ross all over it that is an epic flop

ross might be a known rapper but he aint no plat rapper

50k for a artist who bearly goes gold is good, whichever way you spin it

50k for an artist who goes plat + wud be a flop

 

[StillDreaming]

TO ME, Meek & Pill sound alike. Being that I never heard of neither one of them til I heard this album, I couldnt tell the difference. Like I said, its wonderful they wanna drop albums in the near future but neither one of them probably will. So dont get offended.

I didn't get offended I just corrected You because your obviously misinformed. Believe me with the bangers on this album the whole MMG team will be eating good off them club dates. The album didn't sell a lot, big deal. Y'all talk about sales like we don't already know who's gonna sell and who isn't. When was the last time soundscan surprised you? And who are you to say they wont drop? I'm glad we're FINALLY getting back to who has the best music And not whose the most popular amongst white ppl. The album is above average, why is this thread even needed?

 

[Rhymesfinest]

As far as Rick Ross goes i think most his white fan base consists of males he doesn't have a white female following like that

Same with his black fan base it's mostly males

Rick Ross only manages to go Gold cos he doesn't appeal to females based on how he looks, being pretty fat and just overall not appealing to females