The Official Rick Ross "God Forgives I Don't" Discussion thread (Release Date 07/31/12)

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Good album , not great . I agree it could have been a great album but it did stall with Hold me back and 911. Not so much those songs were wack just not up to the level of the songs before it . But the main thing I got out of the album is that the Justice League may be the most musical producers in Hip Hop . Them and Ross have Dr. Dre and Snoop type chemistry . Justice Leagues beats stand out from every other beats on the album .
 
Mrslim1;4695365 said:
Good album , not great . I agree it could have been a great album but it did stall with Hold me back and 911. Not so much those songs were wack just not up to the level of the songs before it . But the main thing I got out of the album is that the Justice League may be the most musical producers in Hip Hop . Them and Ross have Dr. Dre and Snoop type chemistry . Justice Leagues beats stand out from every other beats on the album .
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Dope thread, we got em' hooked love it or hate it.



If you ask street dudes their favorite songs they gonna say Hold me Back & 911

ask females & they say Diced Pineapple & Touch N You, & Presidetial

ask Soul fans & they say Ashamed & Amsterdam

ask lyric fans they say Sixteen & Accident murderers

ask music fans & they say MM4 & Ten Jesus Peices & Rich Forever

ask Ross fans & they say So Sophisticated & Pirates

ask regional unity fans and they say 3-Kings

You can't please everybody or alienate everybody so the formula is to give fans something they can vibe to and enjoy or try to please everybody and make a Emo/Homo/Euro/Techno mainstream album and hope it crosses over to the buying consumers but not connect to your people.

Not many artists are willing to cater to the streets because it's more $$$$$$ in the POP charts but there are still a few mainstream artists who are willing to sacrifice Pop money aspirations to give us unfilterd HipHop music.
 
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infamous114;4694506 said:
blackbloc;4694483 said:
lol@ ross being the game of the south, still paying taxes to the real nigga that put him on. slip n slide >>>>>>>>>>>triple cs and mmg

No one's on Slip N Slide anymore. Trick and Trina left, on bad terms with Ted Lucas.

but ted owns all of ross' pub

 
poindexter2;4695618 said:
infamous114;4694506 said:
blackbloc;4694483 said:
lol@ ross being the game of the south, still paying taxes to the real nigga that put him on. slip n slide >>>>>>>>>>>triple cs and mmg

No one's on Slip N Slide anymore. Trick and Trina left, on bad terms with Ted Lucas.

but ted owns all of ross' pub

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How the hell is bruh bruh making the Forbes list every year if all his publishing is owned by Ted?

HipHop Forbes List

2009 = Ross (6-Million)

2010 = Ross ( 5-Million)

2011 = Ross (6-Million)

4 Blunts lit at Once publishing better be giving that Black entrepanuer a check or B.M.I ain't doing it's job and somebody ain't got they facts straight.
 
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poindexter2;4695618 said:
infamous114;4694506 said:
blackbloc;4694483 said:
lol@ ross being the game of the south, still paying taxes to the real nigga that put him on. slip n slide >>>>>>>>>>>triple cs and mmg

No one's on Slip N Slide anymore. Trick and Trina left, on bad terms with Ted Lucas.

but ted owns all of ross' pub

That may not be the case anymore: 4 Blunts Lit at Once/EMI Blackwood (BMI) I'm checking back and forth between the digital booklet and the BMI site. The most recent track BMI lists is Rich Forever and First n Gold is gone.

Rich Forever @ BMI
 
pretty good after first listen, dont know how i feel bout mm IV, sixteen is cool, 3000 didnt kill him as much as niggas say, i think niggas caught up in him goin longer and playin guitar, at the same time he did kill it, hold me back and 911 back to back, ross should know better than that, ion kno what i'd rate it but GFID
 
chiyosuke;4695690 said:
poindexter2;4695618 said:
infamous114;4694506 said:
blackbloc;4694483 said:
lol@ ross being the game of the south, still paying taxes to the real nigga that put him on. slip n slide >>>>>>>>>>>triple cs and mmg

No one's on Slip N Slide anymore. Trick and Trina left, on bad terms with Ted Lucas.

but ted owns all of ross' pub

That may not be the case anymore: 4 Blunts Lit at Once/EMI Blackwood (BMI) I'm checking back and forth between the digital booklet and the BMI site. The most recent track BMI lists is Rich Forever and First n Gold is gone.

Rich Forever @ BMI

there are different streams of revenue in publishing. i oculd go into details but i would be typing in tompatrez mode if i did. ted owns the bulk of those. Ross has other investments plus show money endorsement etc.

 
poindexter2;4695979 said:
chiyosuke;4695690 said:
poindexter2;4695618 said:
infamous114;4694506 said:
blackbloc;4694483 said:
lol@ ross being the game of the south, still paying taxes to the real nigga that put him on. slip n slide >>>>>>>>>>>triple cs and mmg

No one's on Slip N Slide anymore. Trick and Trina left, on bad terms with Ted Lucas.

but ted owns all of ross' pub

That may not be the case anymore: 4 Blunts Lit at Once/EMI Blackwood (BMI) I'm checking back and forth between the digital booklet and the BMI site. The most recent track BMI lists is Rich Forever and First n Gold is gone.

Rich Forever @ BMI

there are different streams of revenue in publishing. i oculd go into details but i would be typing in tompatrez mode if i did. ted owns the bulk of those. Ross has other investments plus show money endorsement etc.

I'm aware of that, but I'm going off the 2 sources I gave above. I checked Trilla, DTR, and TD, but apparantly this is his first LP to actually list all the publishers (rather than just narrowing down to BMI, ASCAP, SESAC, etc). With that said, BMI was the only other reliable source to check publishing (since Ross is a BMI artist in this case). First N Gold (Ted's publishing company) is listed on every track Ross has been involved in up until 2012. Perhaps dude smartened up and narrowed it down to just his publishing (4 Blunts Lit at Once) and EMI Blackwood (a mainstream publishing house that probably owns tens to hundreds of thousand songs). His publishing revenue is gonna be about 22% larger with that narrowed down from 3 to 2 (before paying every other writer) ASSUMING it's a now 50/50 cut between the two. Ted definitely still has a stake in his career since he's obviously still signed to and is pretty much SnS's only performing artist (as far as bringing in money). I don't know the percentages, but it's something.
 
chiyosuke;4696152 said:
poindexter2;4695979 said:
chiyosuke;4695690 said:
poindexter2;4695618 said:
infamous114;4694506 said:
blackbloc;4694483 said:
lol@ ross being the game of the south, still paying taxes to the real nigga that put him on. slip n slide >>>>>>>>>>>triple cs and mmg

No one's on Slip N Slide anymore. Trick and Trina left, on bad terms with Ted Lucas.

but ted owns all of ross' pub

That may not be the case anymore: 4 Blunts Lit at Once/EMI Blackwood (BMI) I'm checking back and forth between the digital booklet and the BMI site. The most recent track BMI lists is Rich Forever and First n Gold is gone.

Rich Forever @ BMI

there are different streams of revenue in publishing. i oculd go into details but i would be typing in tompatrez mode if i did. ted owns the bulk of those. Ross has other investments plus show money endorsement etc.

I'm aware of that, but I'm going off the 2 sources I gave above. I checked Trilla, DTR, and TD, but apparantly this is his first LP to actually list all the publishers (rather than just narrowing down to BMI, ASCAP, SESAC, etc). With that said, BMI was the only other reliable source to check publishing (since Ross is a BMI artist in this case). First N Gold (Ted's publishing company) is listed on every track Ross has been involved in up until 2012. Perhaps dude smartened up and narrowed it down to just his publishing (4 Blunts Lit at Once) and EMI Blackwood (a mainstream publishing house that probably owns tens to hundreds of thousand songs). His publishing revenue is gonna be about 22% larger with that narrowed down from 3 to 2 (before paying every other writer) ASSUMING it's a now 50/50 cut between the two. Ted definitely still has a stake in his career since he's obviously still signed to and is pretty much SnS's only performing artist (as far as bringing in money). I don't know the percentages, but it's something.

he probably bought back some bit by bit. who knows. publishing can be very tricky. ross caking regardless. he owns all them damn wing stops lol
 
This is a good album but not better than Teflon Don to me.

My favorite tracks are:

Sixteen

Diced Pineapples

So Sophisticated

Ten Jesus Pieces

Amsterdam

Lyrically Ross is still nice but he still hasn't used that many flows. It would be nice if he had a couple more creative concepts. Production wise I can't say it's his best just yet but the first 7 tracks are probably his most musical as a collective so far. I was fuckin with 911 more than Hold Me Back as far as that sound and So Sophisticated is just raw to me. Maybach Music IV is probably my least favorite of the series along with 2 (Wayne and Kanye's verses were wack to me).. I like Ashamed but I'm not gonna act like it's the greatest shit in the world at the same time.

Gotta digest it before I rate and rank it among his catalog. I know I'm not gonna like it more than TD because it doesn't have a Tears of Joy or All The Money in the World for me. And it's not better than Life Is Good. I have high expectations for Ross though because he always delivers quality.
 
damn @ that MMGroupie following everyone who has anything good to say about GFID. I bet he Retweets them all the time and tries to get them to RT his shit. lmao foolish old man
 

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