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Capo1;859294 said:H-rap breaks down "Not Afraid"
[video=youtube;UCN84zKcQGw]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UCN84zKcQGw&feature=related[/video]
samkay12;859174 said:Did u listen to the 3-am lyrics?? Even KRS1 said the writing of that song was brilliant. Serial killer or not, the writing was brilliant. People actually watch horror movies if you didn't know.
And btw.. eminem never uses his girls's actual voice. Just cos its a little girl, you assume its his daughter.
How about Pdiddy hawking his son all over the place??
Then people talk about race.. The same people that first looked down on an upcoming wannabe whiteboy rapper with no chance of ever making in the black man's genre. Now hes making it, they turn it around and say its cos of his color.
I won't begrudge Em his album numbers. His curse became his gift. But that boy spits fire man..
rip.dilla;859326 said:^^ look like he just woke up from sleep... LOL
hrap-120;859196 said:Up untill recently hiphop culture has always promoted a masculine image, and it became hyper-masculine after a while with all the posturing and chest-poking.
That Black masculine image with the shirtless rapper is a signature, its almost embedded in the fabric of this culture and to step across that line into the realm of cross-dressing and dressing in drag would be career-suicide for a Black rapper....he would most definitly cross-over but he would lose the streets and his core audience.
This whole effeminization movement is sickening but Emenim proved it could be successful, so other will follow $$$$$$$.
hrap-120;859250 said:Other than the amusement that we get out out of teasing groupies and people who are idol-worshippers and rabid fans, we get to see how intense and fanatical people are towards their hero's.
To most of us Emenim is simply another rapper, simply an entertainer nothing-more-nothing less
To many people he is a white-cultural-icon, they view him like we would view Muhammad Ali or Martin Luther king, their idolization and worship of him is the same as ours towards the champions of our causes.
Once we understand this mindstate we can understand Dretox, Capo1, and Gee757 and the others wh Emenim referred to on his classic song "Stan".
These people are not simply defending a rapper, they are defending a cultural symbol and icon within their culture. We must remember this while antagonizing them.
theillestrator;859380 said:there is an unnecessary fascination with race.
VIBE86;859205 said:CAN EMINEM SALES BE TAKEN SERIOUSLY?
To that I want to add, do you think he sells solely because he is WHITE? His whiteness is what sells him, thats the only thing that does, nothing besdies that?
That's what I'm getting now in this thread, that his talent has nothing to do with it. That every fan has said, "it's because he's white".
I'm sure we've all heard ONE person say it, maybe TWO. Does that account for ALL fans? Just because his fan base is white though? Lil Wayne would have to be considered as a serious seller too then, right? 50 Cent too. They have a bigger white fan base than black.
What other artists can we list now if we're determining this shit by white fan bases? Now that I think about it, this thread is stupid. I explained that yes, being white did help but Lil Wayne and 50 are BLACK and yet they still have a HUGE white following.
Kwan Dai;859406 said:I hope you are referring to whites?
ambiguous1;859336 said:Um i think you quoted the wrong person. B/c that's basically waht i was saying. The writing of the song was great, as well as the 3am verses were (like you mentioned to play out like a horror movie) that's why i said it's a bit dumb to compare it to something like a lame rapper just talking about how he on the block shooting whatever he wants
Im not speaking for all of hiphop Im just giving you an educated observation.ambiguous1;859346 said:you dont speak for all of hip hop, and again you are the one putting the limitations on it. Just saying
Capo1;859417 said:lol so i guess blacks are color blind? This thread was created by a BLACK BOY that is obsessed with Eminem's RACE.
hrap-120;859436 said:Im not speaking for all of hiphop Im just giving you an educated observation.
HipHop has ZERO limitations, that's why the culture is fagged out and drugged out, I say cool I hope LiL B sells a million records and I hope Emenim sells 50 million records.
I just enjoy tormenting the overly sensitive fans because I like to witness the extremes they go to show their love and adoration for Emenim.
Emenim speaks to them in the subtle nuances of their dialect, his appeal lies within his ability to "connect" with his fans, he does this by touching on the themes and topics that his fans find enjoyable and entertaining.
He is just a rapper to me, not an ambassador for racial pride, so i am immune to the hype. He has touched the hearts of many people and has become a symbol of hope to many.
I understand.