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For the record i've heard Jay-z list his top 5 numerous times and it generally goes like this

Big
Pac
Lauryn Hill
Nas
Andre 3000

Then he throws in other rappers like Scarface, Rakim, KRS,etc and say it's too hard to narrow it down to 5. Don't sit here and act like Em is consistently in his top 5
 
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usmarin3;3762573 said:
Why does Jay-z opinion matter, i thought all you said he raps about is drugs and can't sing or have emotions. Now Jay-z matters when it comes to kissing your gods ass?

No it doesn't matter but just was made for people like you to see how your idol Jay Z said Eminem is a top 5 Greatest Rapper of all time

And how The Marshall Mathers LP is 1 of his fave Albums ever and called it a classic

Eminm has never called Reasonable Doubt classic or said Jay Z was an influence but he said 2pac was his biggest influence and Redman was an influence for Slim Shady persona
 
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usmarin3;3762625 said:
For the record i've heard Jay-z list his top 5 numerous times and it generally goes like this

Big

Pac

Lauryn Hill

Nas

Andre 3000

Then he throws in other rappers like Scarface, Rakim, KRS,etc and say it's too hard to narrow it down to 5. Don't sit here and act like Em is consistently in his top 5

[video=youtube;6PrSLyrX6hA]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6PrSLyrX6hA[/video]

Straight outta the horses mouth
 
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Biggie
Pac
Kool G Rap
KRS
Kane

Now shut the fuck up
 
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This is what that idiot Usmarin couldn't understand when that lady at the Eminem Jay Z concert said a lotta Rappers speak alot about money yet Em keeps it humble cos of his roots and backround growing up in Detroit

Simple comprehending and Usmarin couldn't do that lol
 
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Like i said, i've heard Jay with different lists where he puts Andre 3000 and Lauryn Hill in his top 5 too.
 
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Wonderland;3762736 said:
[video=youtube;BFPxbgHyoe4]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BFPxbgHyoe4&feature=related[/video]

This is what that idiot Usmarin couldn't understand when that lady at the Eminem Jay Z concert said a lotta Rappers speak alot about money yet Em keeps it humble cos of his roots and backround growing up in Detroit

Simple comprehending and Usmarin couldn't do that lol

Talk to me when artist like COMMON, TALIB KWELI, MOS DEF, BLU, JOE BUDDEN,etc who don't speak on money and keep it humble sell the albums or get the attention from those same Eminem fans. If your dumb pancake ass can't see that Eminems race is a huge factor in why his fanbase looks past the fact that there are many black rappers who aren't flashy and put out better quality music than Em, then you're blind.

Lots of black rappers who aren't flashy with way rougher background than Eminem who would never get looked at twice by the typical Em fan.
 
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[video=youtube;I53vWm8dJGk]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I53vWm8dJGk[/video]

Now this is a Rapper i respect and 1 of the first Lyricists ever and a pioneer

Rakim said in this interview 'Eminem is the Mohammed Ali of Hip Hop

'Eminem is a natural born Writer if Hip Hop didn't exist he could be a Book Author he was born to Write he is a natural born Writer'

'Nas and Scarface are good Rappers and Nas is more of a Street Rapper while Eminem is more of a Personal Lyricist Em Raps about personal shit he went through in his life'

Nothing but real talk there from Rakim
 
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ItzGravitation;3762698 said:
is that ts in the pic?

It's her, she put up a pic earlier today of her booty tryna to come back at the jokes of her pancake ass from this pic. So it's definitely her
 
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usmarin3;3762783 said:
Talk to me when artist like COMMON, TALIB KWELI, MOS DEF, BLU, JOE BUDDEN,etc who don't speak on money and keep it humble sell the albums or get the attention from those same Eminem fans. If your dumb pancake ass can't see that Eminems race is a huge factor in why his fanbase looks past the fact that there are many black rappers who aren't flashy and put out better quality music than Em, then you're blind.

Lots of black rappers who aren't flashy with way rougher background than Eminem who would never get looked at twice by the typical Em fan.

Jesus Christ your idocity is amazing

Are any of the Rap Artists you listed there Mainstream?

Quality of Music is subjective and who makes better Music is subjective like you say regarding Jay Z but now you wanna be hypocritical, Eminem to me and his fans puts out the best quality of Music which is why we are fans we simply feel his Music is better than others and the most enjoyable hence why he is so succesful, respected and praised

Name a Mainstream Rapper with consistant Mainstream success that doesn't Rap about money and isn't flashy and keeps it humble?

Name a Rapper that came from a backround like Eminem? name a Rap Artist that grew up with out a father, grew up in section 8 housing, grew up with a mother that was unemployed and on welfare, grew up losing an uncle, grew up washing dishes on minimum wage to feed their daughter, grew up being a parent in his early 20's, grew up with a parent that had a drug addiction, growing up in a City as dangerous as Detroit??

Cloesest is 2pac as far as having that kinda rough backround and even he had opportunities Em didn't like going to Performing Arts school and having positive male rodel models that were panthers

You are so stupid it ain't even funny
 
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5 mic albums from great rappers

Ice Cube - Amerikkkas Most Wanted, Death Certificate
Nas - Illmatic, Stillmatic
Jay - Reasonable Doubt, Blueprint
Scarface - The Diary, The Fix
Rakim - Paid in Full, Follow the leader
KRS - Criminal Minded, By any means necessary
Slick - Great adventures of Slick Rick
Outkast - Aquemini, Southerplayalisticadillacmusik
A Tribe Call Quest - Midnight Marauders, Low End theory
Biggie - Ready to die, Life after death
Pac - All Eyez on me, Me against the world
Lauryn Hill - Miseducation of Lauryn Hill
LL - Radio, Mama said knock you out
Beastie - License to Ill
Public Enemy - It takes a nation

Eminem - ????????????????????????????

How the fuck is he Ali when he can't even win a fucking title. What does Em got going beside sales, what timeless music has this dude made to stand the test of time.
 
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[video=youtube;kaGfCN5SSeA]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kaGfCN5SSeA[/video]

Show me when aspiring Underground Artists make versions of Jay Z Songs and pay homeage like this to a Jay Z Song
 
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usmarin3;3762883 said:
5 mic albums from great rappers

Ice Cube - Amerikkkas Most Wanted, Death Certificate

Nas - Illmatic, Stillmatic

Jay - Reasonable Doubt, Blueprint

Scarface - The Diary, The Fix

Rakim - Paid in Full, Follow the leader

KRS - Criminal Minded, By any means necessary

Slick - Great adventures of Slick Rick

Outkast - Aquemini, Southerplayalisticadillacmusik

A Tribe Call Quest - Midnight Marauders, Low End theory

Biggie - Ready to die, Life after death

Pac - All Eyez on me, Me against the world

Lauryn Hill - Miseducation of Lauryn Hill

Eminem - ????????????????????????????

The Slim Shady LP, The Marshall Mathers, The Eminem Show
 
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but jay-z saying hes top 5 doesn't stop people from thinking hes overrated

just because jay-z said it doesn't really mean anything. I doubt jay-z really even

feels that way.
 
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Wonderland;3762908 said:
The Slim Shady LP, The Marshall Mathers, The Eminem Show

Slim Shady LP - bitch please, only decent songs are the Dr. Dre produced ones. He lucky he got 4 mics for it.

MMLP - not with corny ass KIM, Real Slim Shady, and the second half of the album tails off.

Eminem Show- not with wack shit like My Dads gone crazy, drips, and without me.

All those albums are 4 mic at best, they aren't on the level of Nas, Jay, Pacs albums like (It was written, God Son, American Gangster, Vol 1, Makevelli 7 Day Theory) which are their second tier albums.
 
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Aside from Sales being the highest selling Artist in the genre ever and having Diamond Plaques and sales of over 80 MIllion in Total so far

Has Number 1 Hits like Lose Yourself, Not Afraid and countless top 5 and top 10 Hit Singles

Has Toured Worldwide selling out stadiums filled with over 80K fans

Has won countless Grammy Awards and amongst the Artists to win the most Grammy's in history

Has won an Oscar Award for the Lose Yourself Song

Has broken records holding the record for most sold in a week with 1.7 Million for The Marslall Mathers LP and sold over a Million in a week with The Eminem Show again

Has had Albums Like The Slim Shady LP, The Marshall Mathers Lp and THe Eminem Show rated amongst the highest ever from countless publications and magazines

Has Produced Smash Hit Singles for so many different Artists like Smack That for Akon, Runnin for 2pac, Ghetto Gospel for 2pac etc

Has Produced all his biggest Hits like Lose Yourself

Has won countless other Awards like Soul Train Awards

I could go on but you get the picture @ Usmarin
 
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