The Official Blackberry 10 Thread

[Michael_Malice]

The the new interface is reminiscent and similar to the meego os. and blackberry hub reminds me alot of the peoples hub on WP8. but how many apps will RIM have come launch time?

Looking at between 70,000 - 100,000 from the numbers I have heard. I know they just had another Port-a-Thon last weekend. It's all about Quality not Quantity hopefully.

 

[Ounceman]

The the new interface is reminiscent and similar to the meego os. and blackberry hub reminds me alot of the peoples hub on WP8. but how many apps will RIM have come launch time?

Looking at between 70,000 - 100,000 from the numbers I have heard. I know they just had another Port-a-Thon last weekend. It's all about Quality not Quantity hopefully.

Ok. sounds cool esp. for a young os. i welcome bb 10's success. what we need is competition on the smartphone market. not everybody is going to want a android or apple device. alternative platforms like windows phone 8 and blackberry 10 gives the consumer choice. and it also causes other platforms to step their game up and innovate in order to compete and stay relevant

 

[Stew]

Not sure If I wanna get the physical qwerty keyboard or not. Part of the reason I stayed around with BB for so long is cause Im not a big fan of the all touch screen joints.

Hate that they made the screen so big too. O well.

 

[Michael_Malice]

Not sure If I wanna get the physical qwerty keyboard or not. Part of the reason I stayed around with BB for so long is cause Im not a big fan of the all touch screen joints.

Hate that they made the screen so big too. O well.

I'm so used to typing on the iPhone so I will definently be getting the Z10. I'm hoping the screen size is just right. I'm not a fan of those big ass phones like the Note.

 

[Michael_Malice]

The BlackBerry Z10 is rumored to come with 4.2-inch HD display, 1.5GHz dual-core processor and an 8-megapixel rear camera. The smartphone is also said to include 2GB of RAM, 4G LTE connectivity, NFC, 16GB of internal storage and an 1,800 mAh removable battery

 

[rage]

Lenovo might up and purchase RIM....look for far better build quality in RIM devices if this does happen.

 

[Michael_Malice]

RIM will air a commercial during the Superbowl for Blackberry 10.

 

[Michael_Malice]

 

[Michael_Malice]

 

[dalyricalbandit]

Nas gonna be the spokesman for that L-series?

 

[black caesar]

@rage

2. That chart is going by smartphone sales, the reason why I say it's foolish is b/c one company has $100 billion dollars in revenue (Apple) the other has $18 billion in revenue (RIM). It doesn't matter how many smartphones RIM ships unless they're doing $100 billion in revenue nobody on that list is outdoing Apple. In Canada RIM still has 35% market share (on it's worst year), and Apple sits at 30%. Since the total is also averaged, it also greatly misconstrues the data presented. Some countries are too small and greatly distort the average in conjunction with revenue and scale.

3. RIM has 80 million customers - up 2 million from the year before.... public perception may be bad but it didn't stop RIM from growing their subscriber base & ALSO keeping the addition 78 million customers they already had. Remember once again RIM is NOT Apple, they're a quarter of the size of Apple and they operate in a country one tenth the size of yours.
http://www.mobilebusinessbriefing.com/articles/rim-surprises-with-subscriber-increase/25423/

4. Dude the BIGGEST problem with what you're doing is comparing a company 10 times bigger than another & asking why the other isn't equal. This is like me, taking the population of Canada and trying to compare it to the U.S., 36 million to 340 million. And saying why isn't Canada as big as the United States ? You see the issue here ? No one is knocking Apple's success fam. I'm trying to save your ass from losing money. I would not invest in Apple until it plummets in price. RIM is having it's troubles NOBODY doubts that but it's not as grave as the public is saying. That's why I'm saying for people to read the financial statements to come to a proper conclusion rather than jumping on the bandwagon. The media said American banks were going out of business in 2007/2008, today many of them were bailed out & are currently doing record numbers..... use your head fam.

What RIM has to do is move away from the comparisons of Apple and focus entirely on it's own business here in Canada and in other places around the world where they are strong. They are still growing subscribership, they are still shipping millions of smartphones and maintaining their revenue. RIM has never done 5 million in a day, on average they do 20-30 million a year (they currently have $18 billion dollars in revenue) so this is why it confuses me & makes me laugh as to why people are so shocked when RIM only ships 20-30 million phones in comparison to Apple. But they don't have to do 5 million in a day if they can still ship 10 million a year and take home 1 to 3 billion in profits that's a success. They're not gonna do $40 billion in profits & neither will Samsung. But there are 80 million customers with RIM that love the product and will upgrade to BB10. Samsung, Nokia, LG, Motorola can't claim that.

2) This is a BOLD FACED LIE. That chart has FUCK all to do with revenue and you know it...if that were the case Apple would be on TOP of that list. That chart is based on DEVICE market share. If the there were 12,000,000 smartphones sold in the world during that year RIM only sold 120,000 of those smartphones. IT HAS NOTHING ABSOLUTELY NOTHING TO DO WITH REVENUE. RIM DOESNT NOT HAVE 35% market share in Canada...again another lie. It has 26% thats behind Apple's 27%.

3) 2 million users??? A less than 3% growth and this is what your happy about?? Whether RIM operates in Waterloo, Kitchener or SoCal doesnt matter, RIM competes in a GLOBAL market. They compete against Apple, Samsung, Nokia...and they are getting ROCKED.

4) Of course I am comparing RIM to APPLE...they are they're main competition. Who the fuck else are you supposed to compare RIM to? Apple/Samsung/Microsoft/Nokia/Motorola....are all out to kill RIM, why wouldnt you compare RIM's market position to those companies?? WTF??

5) Profit and RIM dont belong in the same sentence...what sheets are you looking at? They lost $225 Million last quarter, they sold 7.2 Million phones Q2 2012 vs 10 million phones in Q2 2011, The only reason they ONLY lost $225 Million is because they damn near put half of Waterloo on UI. Please stop comparing RIM to Samsung...Samsung could CRUSH RIM tomorrow. They've sold almost 15 million Galaxy S3s...and thats NOT including the other Samsung phones. Samsung just posted a $7.3 BILLION PROFIT from July to Sept.

RIM is a dying company....BB10 is pushed all the way back to MARCH 2013. When that tanks...RIP RIM.

You're still at this tho ?

Welp... how about this ? You can have your pyrrhic victory since you already have your mind made up I'll leave it to time to prove me right. I was right about the subprime crash in the U.S., I was right about U.S. Banks turning back to profitability, I was right about the current slowdown in China, I was right about Europe, I was right about stock markets rising over the last 3 years and I was right about RIM & Netflix the first time. If you want to bask in Apple stock go ahead. I will be right here when it falls in price just like RIM did to tell you "I told you so".

If I'm wrong then I'll buy you the next Apple product and send it to you. But I know I'm right because I've seen this movie before. You're crazy if you think in the next 3-5 years Apple will continue to crush records. The bigger they are the harder they fall. Remember Steve isn't around no more and you can only milk his inventions for so long before the rest of the market catches up & profits begin to slow up.

samsung will be there when apple falls

I have very high expectations for Samsung, I think they are on the right track.

Co-sign. I want a Samsung Galaxy III, but I keep hearing that IV is on it's way this year...

 

[Michael_Malice]

RIM will air a commercial during the Superbowl for Blackberry 10.

A Superbowl spot makes as much a statement about RIM the company as it does about Blackberry 10. This could be huge.

 

[Michael_Malice]

That cocaine white Z10 is beautiful.

 

[Michael_Malice]

The X10 for my Qwerty Brothas.

 

[Michael_Malice]

Using Blackberry Peek to view Blackberry Hub.

Sleep Mode/Alarm

 

[Stew]

The X10 for my Qwerty Brothas.

Whats the difference between this one and the other screens beside the keyboard?

Phone looks bad ass btw.

 

[Michael_Malice]

The X10 for my Qwerty Brothas.

Whats the difference between this one and the other screens beside the keyboard?

Phone looks bad ass btw.

There hasn't been too many leaks on the X10 so I'm not sure what the difference is between it and the Z10. I believe it will be the same besides the physical Qwerty. And it looks like its more rounded than the Z10. We will know for sure in about 3 days though. It does look nice.

 

[Jems2387]

They coulda just went the route that Samsung is doin by making branded Blackberry phones that run Android but have the BB interface and some new features. Then hop off Android after they have X amount of sales and start their own thing. I would have been more interested in seeing BB go head to head with Samsung phone wise. Cause everyones familiar with Blackberry phones, and Samsung is just gaining it's popularity with android phones. Would have been interesting to see how that turned out. Instead they're doin their Steve Jobs shit. More power to them tho.

 

[LUClEN]

This new os has me anxious

 

[Michael_Malice]

They coulda just went the route that Samsung is doin by making branded Blackberry phones that run Android but have the BB interface and some new features. Then hop off Android after they have X amount of sales and start their own thing. I would have been more interested in seeing BB go head to head with Samsung phone wise. Cause everyones familiar with Blackberry phones, and Samsung is just gaining it's popularity with android phones. Would have been interesting to see how that turned out. Instead they're doin their Steve Jobs shit. More power to them tho.

But everyone doesn't like Andoid tho.