The Official Blackberry 10 Thread

[UPTOWN]

this moron rage ... is honestly in here arguing.... that all these ppl.... are buying iphones.... because they did the research and decided that iphone was the best phone on the market??

LOL

their are some weird fucking ppl in the world LOL

thats like saying millions of fans go to football games because they want to analyze and break down offensive schemes by different offensive coordinators. not to watch players entertain them LOL

when the next trend comes along .... iphones will be just like flip phones LOL

 

[rage]

this moron rage ... is honestly in here arguing.... that all these ppl.... are buying iphones.... because they did the research and decided that iphone was the best phone on the market??

LOL

their are some weird fucking ppl in the world LOL

thats like saying millions of fans go to football games because they want to analyze and break down offensive schemes by different offensive coordinators. not to watch players entertain them LOL

when the next trend comes along .... iphones will be just like flip phones LOL

You're a fucking child...grown folks are talking fuck up outta here ya hear.

 

[rage]

And so it begins....
http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/10/25/us-apple-results-new-idUSBRE89O1M920121025
http://www.forbes.com/sites/connieg...ales-but-misses-on-profit-forecast-live-blog/

Apple sold fewer iPads than anticipated as the economy remained weak and consumers waited for the new iPad mini, which will hit store shelves next month.

Analysts say the real test for the company will come during the crucial holiday shopping season, when competition will reach fever-pitch with Apple, Amazon.com Inc, Google Inc and Microsoft Corp all fielding new gadgets.

"Going into earnings we were wondering if the slowing economy will catch up with Wall Street and it has," said Channing Smith, co-manager of the Capital Advisors Growth Fund.

First RIM, Nokia, Motorola, then Dell, Nintendo, Google, even Amazon just felt the pinch as Amazon will record a loss for the first time since 2002. Europe and Japan got sales weak for everyone all over & more competition and hardware costs is slowing up sales. This is the first red flag.

Remember Apple relies heavily on branding but it doesn't have a definitive competitive advantage that someone can't copy or create. All these smartphone makers are making the same product just slightly different features. Apple relies on the brand to be able to sell it's products at quite expensive prices. The problem with that is sooner or later Microsoft, Google, HTC, Samsung, RIM, Nokia, Motorola are gonna be offering the same products but at different price points. They can make a tablet or smartphone product with the same features but at a lower cost for the consumer. Eventually that's going to catch up with Apple. You can only milk Jobs' inventions for so long before the market asks "what's next" ? Apple is a great success story but there are kinks in their armor....

When Apple can no longer match expectations of 30% + growth like they wanted RIM to, the market is gonna sell it off and look for the next bandwagon to jump on. It'll still be able to grow there's no doubting that, but it will not be able to keep shattering records over and over.

Wrong, only idiots actually believe this.

Apple relies on making their customers happy. They have the highest customer satisfaction scores of any tech company ever. They have the highest brand loyalty than any other tech company....ever. They do this by making the most customer focused product in the market. People HATE R.I.M and they HATE BBs.

The iPad is the best tablet on the market. The iPhone is the best smartphone on the market. The public knows it, thats why Apple sold more iPhones last quarter than every other Android manufacturer in North America. Thats why they have sold 100 Million iPads, thats why 91% of tablet traffic on the net is from an iPad. Apple just reported RECORD PROFITS AGAIN and SMASHED its own FORECASTS.

26.9 Million iPhones....58% increase over Q32011 (How are these "quite expensive prices")

14 Million iPads.....thats a 26% increase over Q32011(again how are these "quite expensive prices")

$8.2 Billion in profits on $36 Billion in Sales.

Went from $117 Billion in cash to $121 Billion.

 

[rage]

And so it begins....
http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/10/25/us-apple-results-new-idUSBRE89O1M920121025
http://www.forbes.com/sites/connieg...ales-but-misses-on-profit-forecast-live-blog/

Apple sold fewer iPads than anticipated as the economy remained weak and consumers waited for the new iPad mini, which will hit store shelves next month.

Analysts say the real test for the company will come during the crucial holiday shopping season, when competition will reach fever-pitch with Apple, Amazon.com Inc, Google Inc and Microsoft Corp all fielding new gadgets.

"Going into earnings we were wondering if the slowing economy will catch up with Wall Street and it has," said Channing Smith, co-manager of the Capital Advisors Growth Fund.

First RIM, Nokia, Motorola, then Dell, Nintendo, Google, even Amazon just felt the pinch as Amazon will record a loss for the first time since 2002. Europe and Japan got sales weak for everyone all over & more competition and hardware costs is slowing up sales. This is the first red flag.

Remember Apple relies heavily on branding but it doesn't have a definitive competitive advantage that someone can't copy or create. All these smartphone makers are making the same product just slightly different features. Apple relies on the brand to be able to sell it's products at quite expensive prices. The problem with that is sooner or later Microsoft, Google, HTC, Samsung, RIM, Nokia, Motorola are gonna be offering the same products but at different price points. They can make a tablet or smartphone product with the same features but at a lower cost for the consumer. Eventually that's going to catch up with Apple. You can only milk Jobs' inventions for so long before the market asks "what's next" ? Apple is a great success story but there are kinks in their armor....

When Apple can no longer match expectations of 30% + growth like they wanted RIM to, the market is gonna sell it off and look for the next bandwagon to jump on. It'll still be able to grow there's no doubting that, but it will not be able to keep shattering records over and over.

Wrong, only idiots actually believe this.

Apple relies on making their customers happy. They have the highest customer satisfaction scores of any tech company ever. They have the highest brand loyalty than any other tech company....ever. They do this by making the most customer focused product in the market. People HATE R.I.M and they HATE BBs.

The iPad is the best tablet on the market. The iPhone is the best smartphone on the market. The public knows it, thats why Apple sold more iPhones last quarter than every other Android manufacturer in North America. Thats why they have sold 100 Million iPads, thats why 91% of tablet traffic on the net is from an iPad. Apple just reported RECORD PROFITS AGAIN and SMASHED its own FORECASTS.

26.9 Million iPhones....58% increase over Q32011 (How are these "quite expensive prices")

14 Million iPads.....thats a 26% increase over Q32011(again how are these "quite expensive prices")

$8.2 Billion in profits on $36 Billion in Sales.

Went from $117 Billion in cash to $121 Billion.

If you say so dude, I wouldn't consider that a durable competitive advantage - people loved the quality service of American manufacturing only... across the pond they'll do it for cheaper & it might not be aesthetically perfect but they can make more money that way. This is the challenge Apple will have to face along with a changing global environment.

As for the numbers you posted, you see how it still wasn't enough to satisfy the 'Street' as good as it was ? The expectations are growing more and more higher and unrealistic.

What the Streets expect are irrelevant to a company's financial stability. All Apple missed.....was an estimate...made by analysts. It has zero bearing on how good Apple is doing as a company. RIM, Nokia, HTC, even Amazon have all reported massive loses. Because none of those companies innovate...they simply copy and make generic devices. So this notion that people will gravitate towards other devices just because they do the same thing is unfounded.

 

[qtipp73]

this rage dude been talking about apple for a straight month and a half now.

Grow up my nigga. Apple dont need nerds like u to convince people to buy their shit. They dont make phones for consumers like u who wanna post fucking benchmark scores ans shit. 80% of their customers could give two fucks about what processor is in their phone or how fast it computes shit.

I cosigned u way back in early September on this shit but now its just getting sad. Get a life,girl,job,etc. Shits pathetic at this point.

 

[rage]

this rage dude been talking about apple for a straight month and a half now.

Grow up my nigga. Apple dont need nerds like u to convince people to buy their shit. They dont make phones for consumers like u who wanna post fucking benchmark scores ans shit. 80% of their customers could give two fucks about what processor is in their phone or how fast it computes shit.

I cosigned u way back in early September on this shit but now its just getting sad. Get a life,girl,job,etc. Shits pathetic at this point.

So you will be posting this same post about Sion as well?? You know the dude who has just as many posts about RIM. Its called a discussion you dumbass cornball. Will you be posting this about all the fandroids in the Samsung GS3 thread? You just dont agree with what I am writing so fuck outta you hypocrite.

 

[qtipp73]

this rage dude been talking about apple for a straight month and a half now.

Grow up my nigga. Apple dont need nerds like u to convince people to buy their shit. They dont make phones for consumers like u who wanna post fucking benchmark scores ans shit. 80% of their customers could give two fucks about what processor is in their phone or how fast it computes shit.

I cosigned u way back in early September on this shit but now its just getting sad. Get a life,girl,job,etc. Shits pathetic at this point.

So you will be posting this same post about Sion as well?? You know the dude who has just as many posts about RIM. Its called a discussion you dumbass cornball. Will you be posting this about all the fandroids in the Samsung GS3 thread? You just dont agree with what I am writing so fuck outta you hypocrite.

dumbass I said I cosigned u back in sept about this apple vs android shit. Im just saying its time to move on my dude. enough is enough. Its funny how a dude thats been dickriding apple on an internet forum for almost two damn months straight is calling another person a cornball lol. OH THE IRONY

 

[rage]

this rage dude been talking about apple for a straight month and a half now.

Grow up my nigga. Apple dont need nerds like u to convince people to buy their shit. They dont make phones for consumers like u who wanna post fucking benchmark scores ans shit. 80% of their customers could give two fucks about what processor is in their phone or how fast it computes shit.

I cosigned u way back in early September on this shit but now its just getting sad. Get a life,girl,job,etc. Shits pathetic at this point.

So you will be posting this same post about Sion as well?? You know the dude who has just as many posts about RIM. Its called a discussion you dumbass cornball. Will you be posting this about all the fandroids in the Samsung GS3 thread? You just dont agree with what I am writing so fuck outta you hypocrite.

dumbass I said I cosigned u back in sept about this apple vs android shit. Im just saying its time to move on my dude. enough is enough. Its funny how a dude thats been dickriding apple on an internet forum for almost two damn months straight is calling another person a cornball lol. OH THE IRONY

I'm dickriding Apple....so what is Sion doing with RIM? What is Dr. Chemix doing with Android? The OP just said BB is coming for the throne when BB has a 1.7% MARKET SHARE...thats not dickriding?? This is a message board where people discuss things...Sion and the OP's position is that RIM is going to make some miraculous comeback and rule the mobile smartphone world. They have presented their reasons why this is so. I think its a load of horseshit and that RIM is a company devoid of innovation and or any appealing products....I have stated the reasons why I think this is so. What the fuck does that have to do with you? Or did you just go the usual played out "dickriding" "caping" route just to get the LOL reactions?

 

[qtipp73]

last time im gonna say this shit. I agree with u on ur argument. im saying its time to move on. u been on two separate threads crusading for apple nonstop. u will go to great lengths to make ur point. u made it. move on my nigga

 

[Dr.Chemix]

Rage...rages. Appropiate screen name. He is your typical apple fan. Repeats rhetoric. Copy pastes apple fan site stats. Says the most outrageous shit. Quickly calls Android supporters fandroids. Rathers have a phone think for him than he thinks for it.

But to keep thread intact and in effort not to overly derail, does the T/S really think RIM will be around much longer. Shit I remember when Blackberry was GOAT...my shit felt inferior back then

 

[Stew]

GOAT my shit feels like its slowly dying lol I just hope that shit doesnt cost $600 again

 

[LUClEN]

BB will be offering data plans eh?

This is intriguing... i read awhile back that BB was receiving pressure from federal officials because their network was private and they would not give out info to investigators looking into criminal activity

Not sure how valid this is, but in 2013 increased privacy and security is a definite plus.

 

[chi-guy]

http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/11/12/us-rim-blackberry-idUSBRE8AB0H920121112

BB10 drops January 30th

Can't wait

 

[major pain]

sion ima drop 1k into RIM... if i lose my money.. im whippin yo ass

 

[qtipp73]

RIM is a sinking ship. Wont be worth shit in another 18 months

 

[rage]

http://money.cnn.com/2012/11/21/tec...feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed:+rss%2Fmoney_latest+(Latest+News)

"The NTSB requires effective, reliable and stable communication capabilities to carry-out its primary investigative mission and to ensure employee safety in remote locations," the agency wrote. "Due to performance issues with the blackberry [sic] devices, the NTSB desires to transition to a different device."

BWAHHAHAHAHAH COT DAYUM that has to hurt!!!

 

[Stew]

^^^Old story that means nothing. RIM stock up almost 6% today.

 

[rage]

^^^Old story that means nothing. RIM stock up almost 6% today.

Dated today...NTSB released this info TODAY.

LMAO @ you thinking what happens on a day to day basis on the stock market has anything to do with a company's performance.

 

[rage]

^^^Old story that means nothing. RIM stock up almost 6% today.

Dated today...NTSB released this info TODAY.

LMAO @ you thinking what happens on a day to day basis on the stock market has anything to do with a company's performance.

Oh cry me a river nigga you lost like 30% on Apple..... and don't even act like people aren't starting to see kinks in Apple's armor - their declining/tightening margins, management changes, tougher competition and lower expectations had a huge impact to that major fall off on the Street. I told you months ago this was GOING TO HAPPEN to Apple & look now. RIM was at $6.10 at it's low and now it's at $10.23 you realize how much money you didn't make right ? Tell me with a straight face that you'd rather have lost 30% with Apple than gain with RIM, you could have nearly doubled your money SMFH. It's not too late fam you're going to be kicking yourself once RIM gets back on track, watch.....

RIM is coming back strong, people are realizing it & people are buying. RIM will probably report 2 more bad quarters but it won't matter - they'll be able to use the previous losses as a tax loss carry forwards and be able to report larger profits on net income should BB10 do well. I was fiddling with the BB10 Dev model a couple weeks back & nigga I'll tell you from now there is NOTHING on the market now that can fuck with some of the features it's got going on, the browser is incredible too. If that shit was wack TRUST me I would've sold out & told everyone to follow suit but that wasn't the case fortunately.

If I were you I'd buy shares in RIM. You're gonna eat your own words & look like a fool when that shit quadruples in the longterm. You niggas need to get off this fanboy shit and start broadening your horizons, I don't agree with some of the shit the Bank of America does but that won't stop me from buying shares, same thing with Apple. If Apple fell 1000% tomorrow I'd be the first nigga in line to cop shares.

LOL...you have lost your fucking mind if you think that Apple's stock is anywhere remotely reached its high. What chink the armour? Just earlier in THIS very thread you were bitching and moaning about how quarterly fluctuations are meaningless and now your switching your tune?? Typical. Apple's sales are UP by record numbers across the board. The recent iPhone5 and iPad Mini just set sales records with the iPad Mini selling as many Nexus7 tablets did in 6 months (1.5 million) in 3 days. AT A MUCH HIGHER PRICE! They beat their estimates by a couple of BILLION last quarter while adding more than $4 Billion to their big Scroodge McDuck style Money Bin. And just got paid a cash dividend...do you even know what one of those look like?

Who the fuck is going to buy a BB10 device aside from the last remaining Blackberry Curve 98whateverhundred users. People fucking DESPISE Blackberry's and here we have first hand proof of that coming back to bite RIMM in the ass. Where do you think BB10 is going go? They have to get to WP8 status before it can even think about coming after iOS. The CEO has even conceded that number three is all they can ever hope for.

 

[joshuaboy]

Sorry I didn't listen to Sion and buy shares in RIM. You ain't never lied, sir.