The Official Blackberry 10 Thread

[LUClEN]

Damn and both have 8 megapixel cameras?

Wtf u smoking talking like crapple is really doing anything super crazy?

 

[LUClEN]

You lost all credibility with that fallacious dick riding

 

[rage]

How does a weaker processor stomp out a stronger one btw?

.2 ghz less power is significant

http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2410034,00.asp

Damn and both have 8 megapixel cameras? [/img]

Wtf u smoking talking like crapple is really doing anything super crazy?

http://www.engadget.com/2012/09/26/lumia-920-low-light-shootout/

Now shut the fuck up...fucking Fandroids will never learn. Your entire steez is fugazhi, spurious, its a moissanite.

 

[one_manshow]

Ayo Sion got a question for you holla at me PM....

 

[LUClEN]

I call bull shit. No way a dual

Core is touching a quad core.

 

[rage]

I call bull shit. No way a dual

Core is touching a quad core.

http://www.anandtech.com/show/6324/the-iphone-5-performance-preview

Riiiggghttt...so now everybody's lying...LOL and I'm the fanboy?

 

[MrSoutCity]

@rage

2. That chart is going by smartphone sales, the reason why I say it's foolish is b/c one company has $100 billion dollars in revenue (Apple) the other has $18 billion in revenue (RIM). It doesn't matter how many smartphones RIM ships unless they're doing $100 billion in revenue nobody on that list is outdoing Apple. In Canada RIM still has 35% market share (on it's worst year), and Apple sits at 30%. Since the total is also averaged, it also greatly misconstrues the data presented. Some countries are too small and greatly distort the average in conjunction with revenue and scale.

3. RIM has 80 million customers - up 2 million from the year before.... public perception may be bad but it didn't stop RIM from growing their subscriber base & ALSO keeping the addition 78 million customers they already had. Remember once again RIM is NOT Apple, they're a quarter of the size of Apple and they operate in a country one tenth the size of yours.
http://www.mobilebusinessbriefing.com/articles/rim-surprises-with-subscriber-increase/25423/

4. Dude the BIGGEST problem with what you're doing is comparing a company 10 times bigger than another & asking why the other isn't equal. This is like me, taking the population of Canada and trying to compare it to the U.S., 36 million to 340 million. And saying why isn't Canada as big as the United States ? You see the issue here ? No one is knocking Apple's success fam. I'm trying to save your ass from losing money. I would not invest in Apple until it plummets in price. RIM is having it's troubles NOBODY doubts that but it's not as grave as the public is saying. That's why I'm saying for people to read the financial statements to come to a proper conclusion rather than jumping on the bandwagon. The media said American banks were going out of business in 2007/2008, today many of them were bailed out & are currently doing record numbers..... use your head fam.

What RIM has to do is move away from the comparisons of Apple and focus entirely on it's own business here in Canada and in other places around the world where they are strong. They are still growing subscribership, they are still shipping millions of smartphones and maintaining their revenue. RIM has never done 5 million in a day, on average they do 20-30 million a year (they currently have $18 billion dollars in revenue) so this is why it confuses me & makes me laugh as to why people are so shocked when RIM only ships 20-30 million phones in comparison to Apple. But they don't have to do 5 million in a day if they can still ship 10 million a year and take home 1 to 3 billion in profits that's a success. They're not gonna do $40 billion in profits & neither will Samsung. But there are 80 million customers with RIM that love the product and will upgrade to BB10. Samsung, Nokia, LG, Motorola can't claim that.

2) This is a BOLD FACED LIE. That chart has FUCK all to do with revenue and you know it...if that were the case Apple would be on TOP of that list. That chart is based on DEVICE market share. If the there were 12,000,000 smartphones sold in the world during that year RIM only sold 120,000 of those smartphones. IT HAS NOTHING ABSOLUTELY NOTHING TO DO WITH REVENUE. RIM DOESNT NOT HAVE 35% market share in Canada...again another lie. It has 26% thats behind Apple's 27%.

3) 2 million users??? A less than 3% growth and this is what your happy about?? Whether RIM operates in Waterloo, Kitchener or SoCal doesnt matter, RIM competes in a GLOBAL market. They compete against Apple, Samsung, Nokia...and they are getting ROCKED.

4) Of course I am comparing RIM to APPLE...they are they're main competition. Who the fuck else are you supposed to compare RIM to? Apple/Samsung/Microsoft/Nokia/Motorola....are all out to kill RIM, why wouldnt you compare RIM's market position to those companies?? WTF??

5) Profit and RIM dont belong in the same sentence...what sheets are you looking at? They lost $225 Million last quarter, they sold 7.2 Million phones Q2 2012 vs 10 million phones in Q2 2011, The only reason they ONLY lost $225 Million is because they damn near put half of Waterloo on UI. Please stop comparing RIM to Samsung...Samsung could CRUSH RIM tomorrow. They've sold almost 15 million Galaxy S3s...and thats NOT including the other Samsung phones. Samsung just posted a $7.3 BILLION PROFIT from July to Sept.

RIM is a dying company....BB10 is pushed all the way back to MARCH 2013. When that tanks...RIP RIM.

You're still at this tho ?

Welp... how about this ? You can have your pyrrhic victory since you already have your mind made up I'll leave it to time to prove me right. I was right about the subprime crash in the U.S., I was right about U.S. Banks turning back to profitability, I was right about the current slowdown in China, I was right about Europe, I was right about stock markets rising over the last 3 years and I was right about RIM & Netflix the first time. If you want to bask in Apple stock go ahead. I will be right here when it falls in price just like RIM did to tell you "I told you so".

If I'm wrong then I'll buy you the next Apple product and send it to you. But I know I'm right because I've seen this movie before. You're crazy if you think in the next 3-5 years Apple will continue to crush records. The bigger they are the harder they fall. Remember Steve isn't around no more and you can only milk his inventions for so long before the rest of the market catches up & profits begin to slow up.

samsung will be there when apple falls

AHAHAHAHAHAHHAH....oh that has got to be the funniest post on this site.

Maybe to an apple stan who thinks the fact that apple gets all their tech parts from samsung because samsung makes the best shit isnt a reason to be worried.

Korea is on the come up and samsung is next in line for apple's spot.

Your an idiot if you think Apple "gets" its tech parts from Samsung. Samsung MANUFACTURES parts for Apple....something ANY company can do. Apple has already moved the display business to Sharp and the chip business is going to Taiwan Semiconductor Manufacturing Company which is the largest chip manufacturer in the world. If Samsung makes "the best shit" why does the A6 stomp the FUCK out of the Exynos? Why does the iPhone have the better display than the S3? Why does the iPhone have a better camera than the S3?

Samsung doesn't INNOVATE or bring ANYTHING new to the table. They copied the iOS features and design and got bitch slapped in court. Apple is the architect, Samsung is the carpenter....any nigga can be a carpenter.

Don't you get tired of repeating the same shit?? And that court shit was home court advantage.

 

[rage]

@rage

2. That chart is going by smartphone sales, the reason why I say it's foolish is b/c one company has $100 billion dollars in revenue (Apple) the other has $18 billion in revenue (RIM). It doesn't matter how many smartphones RIM ships unless they're doing $100 billion in revenue nobody on that list is outdoing Apple. In Canada RIM still has 35% market share (on it's worst year), and Apple sits at 30%. Since the total is also averaged, it also greatly misconstrues the data presented. Some countries are too small and greatly distort the average in conjunction with revenue and scale.

3. RIM has 80 million customers - up 2 million from the year before.... public perception may be bad but it didn't stop RIM from growing their subscriber base & ALSO keeping the addition 78 million customers they already had. Remember once again RIM is NOT Apple, they're a quarter of the size of Apple and they operate in a country one tenth the size of yours.
http://www.mobilebusinessbriefing.com/articles/rim-surprises-with-subscriber-increase/25423/

4. Dude the BIGGEST problem with what you're doing is comparing a company 10 times bigger than another & asking why the other isn't equal. This is like me, taking the population of Canada and trying to compare it to the U.S., 36 million to 340 million. And saying why isn't Canada as big as the United States ? You see the issue here ? No one is knocking Apple's success fam. I'm trying to save your ass from losing money. I would not invest in Apple until it plummets in price. RIM is having it's troubles NOBODY doubts that but it's not as grave as the public is saying. That's why I'm saying for people to read the financial statements to come to a proper conclusion rather than jumping on the bandwagon. The media said American banks were going out of business in 2007/2008, today many of them were bailed out & are currently doing record numbers..... use your head fam.

What RIM has to do is move away from the comparisons of Apple and focus entirely on it's own business here in Canada and in other places around the world where they are strong. They are still growing subscribership, they are still shipping millions of smartphones and maintaining their revenue. RIM has never done 5 million in a day, on average they do 20-30 million a year (they currently have $18 billion dollars in revenue) so this is why it confuses me & makes me laugh as to why people are so shocked when RIM only ships 20-30 million phones in comparison to Apple. But they don't have to do 5 million in a day if they can still ship 10 million a year and take home 1 to 3 billion in profits that's a success. They're not gonna do $40 billion in profits & neither will Samsung. But there are 80 million customers with RIM that love the product and will upgrade to BB10. Samsung, Nokia, LG, Motorola can't claim that.

2) This is a BOLD FACED LIE. That chart has FUCK all to do with revenue and you know it...if that were the case Apple would be on TOP of that list. That chart is based on DEVICE market share. If the there were 12,000,000 smartphones sold in the world during that year RIM only sold 120,000 of those smartphones. IT HAS NOTHING ABSOLUTELY NOTHING TO DO WITH REVENUE. RIM DOESNT NOT HAVE 35% market share in Canada...again another lie. It has 26% thats behind Apple's 27%.

3) 2 million users??? A less than 3% growth and this is what your happy about?? Whether RIM operates in Waterloo, Kitchener or SoCal doesnt matter, RIM competes in a GLOBAL market. They compete against Apple, Samsung, Nokia...and they are getting ROCKED.

4) Of course I am comparing RIM to APPLE...they are they're main competition. Who the fuck else are you supposed to compare RIM to? Apple/Samsung/Microsoft/Nokia/Motorola....are all out to kill RIM, why wouldnt you compare RIM's market position to those companies?? WTF??

5) Profit and RIM dont belong in the same sentence...what sheets are you looking at? They lost $225 Million last quarter, they sold 7.2 Million phones Q2 2012 vs 10 million phones in Q2 2011, The only reason they ONLY lost $225 Million is because they damn near put half of Waterloo on UI. Please stop comparing RIM to Samsung...Samsung could CRUSH RIM tomorrow. They've sold almost 15 million Galaxy S3s...and thats NOT including the other Samsung phones. Samsung just posted a $7.3 BILLION PROFIT from July to Sept.

RIM is a dying company....BB10 is pushed all the way back to MARCH 2013. When that tanks...RIP RIM.

You're still at this tho ?

Welp... how about this ? You can have your pyrrhic victory since you already have your mind made up I'll leave it to time to prove me right. I was right about the subprime crash in the U.S., I was right about U.S. Banks turning back to profitability, I was right about the current slowdown in China, I was right about Europe, I was right about stock markets rising over the last 3 years and I was right about RIM & Netflix the first time. If you want to bask in Apple stock go ahead. I will be right here when it falls in price just like RIM did to tell you "I told you so".

If I'm wrong then I'll buy you the next Apple product and send it to you. But I know I'm right because I've seen this movie before. You're crazy if you think in the next 3-5 years Apple will continue to crush records. The bigger they are the harder they fall. Remember Steve isn't around no more and you can only milk his inventions for so long before the rest of the market catches up & profits begin to slow up.

samsung will be there when apple falls

AHAHAHAHAHAHHAH....oh that has got to be the funniest post on this site.

Maybe to an apple stan who thinks the fact that apple gets all their tech parts from samsung because samsung makes the best shit isnt a reason to be worried.

Korea is on the come up and samsung is next in line for apple's spot.

Your an idiot if you think Apple "gets" its tech parts from Samsung. Samsung MANUFACTURES parts for Apple....something ANY company can do. Apple has already moved the display business to Sharp and the chip business is going to Taiwan Semiconductor Manufacturing Company which is the largest chip manufacturer in the world. If Samsung makes "the best shit" why does the A6 stomp the FUCK out of the Exynos? Why does the iPhone have the better display than the S3? Why does the iPhone have a better camera than the S3?

Samsung doesn't INNOVATE or bring ANYTHING new to the table. They copied the iOS features and design and got bitch slapped in court. Apple is the architect, Samsung is the carpenter....any nigga can be a carpenter.

Don't you get tired of repeating the same shit?? And that court shit was home court advantage.

Da fuck was talking to you?

 

[MrSoutCity]

@rage

2. That chart is going by smartphone sales, the reason why I say it's foolish is b/c one company has $100 billion dollars in revenue (Apple) the other has $18 billion in revenue (RIM). It doesn't matter how many smartphones RIM ships unless they're doing $100 billion in revenue nobody on that list is outdoing Apple. In Canada RIM still has 35% market share (on it's worst year), and Apple sits at 30%. Since the total is also averaged, it also greatly misconstrues the data presented. Some countries are too small and greatly distort the average in conjunction with revenue and scale.

3. RIM has 80 million customers - up 2 million from the year before.... public perception may be bad but it didn't stop RIM from growing their subscriber base & ALSO keeping the addition 78 million customers they already had. Remember once again RIM is NOT Apple, they're a quarter of the size of Apple and they operate in a country one tenth the size of yours.
http://www.mobilebusinessbriefing.com/articles/rim-surprises-with-subscriber-increase/25423/

4. Dude the BIGGEST problem with what you're doing is comparing a company 10 times bigger than another & asking why the other isn't equal. This is like me, taking the population of Canada and trying to compare it to the U.S., 36 million to 340 million. And saying why isn't Canada as big as the United States ? You see the issue here ? No one is knocking Apple's success fam. I'm trying to save your ass from losing money. I would not invest in Apple until it plummets in price. RIM is having it's troubles NOBODY doubts that but it's not as grave as the public is saying. That's why I'm saying for people to read the financial statements to come to a proper conclusion rather than jumping on the bandwagon. The media said American banks were going out of business in 2007/2008, today many of them were bailed out & are currently doing record numbers..... use your head fam.

What RIM has to do is move away from the comparisons of Apple and focus entirely on it's own business here in Canada and in other places around the world where they are strong. They are still growing subscribership, they are still shipping millions of smartphones and maintaining their revenue. RIM has never done 5 million in a day, on average they do 20-30 million a year (they currently have $18 billion dollars in revenue) so this is why it confuses me & makes me laugh as to why people are so shocked when RIM only ships 20-30 million phones in comparison to Apple. But they don't have to do 5 million in a day if they can still ship 10 million a year and take home 1 to 3 billion in profits that's a success. They're not gonna do $40 billion in profits & neither will Samsung. But there are 80 million customers with RIM that love the product and will upgrade to BB10. Samsung, Nokia, LG, Motorola can't claim that.

2) This is a BOLD FACED LIE. That chart has FUCK all to do with revenue and you know it...if that were the case Apple would be on TOP of that list. That chart is based on DEVICE market share. If the there were 12,000,000 smartphones sold in the world during that year RIM only sold 120,000 of those smartphones. IT HAS NOTHING ABSOLUTELY NOTHING TO DO WITH REVENUE. RIM DOESNT NOT HAVE 35% market share in Canada...again another lie. It has 26% thats behind Apple's 27%.

3) 2 million users??? A less than 3% growth and this is what your happy about?? Whether RIM operates in Waterloo, Kitchener or SoCal doesnt matter, RIM competes in a GLOBAL market. They compete against Apple, Samsung, Nokia...and they are getting ROCKED.

4) Of course I am comparing RIM to APPLE...they are they're main competition. Who the fuck else are you supposed to compare RIM to? Apple/Samsung/Microsoft/Nokia/Motorola....are all out to kill RIM, why wouldnt you compare RIM's market position to those companies?? WTF??

5) Profit and RIM dont belong in the same sentence...what sheets are you looking at? They lost $225 Million last quarter, they sold 7.2 Million phones Q2 2012 vs 10 million phones in Q2 2011, The only reason they ONLY lost $225 Million is because they damn near put half of Waterloo on UI. Please stop comparing RIM to Samsung...Samsung could CRUSH RIM tomorrow. They've sold almost 15 million Galaxy S3s...and thats NOT including the other Samsung phones. Samsung just posted a $7.3 BILLION PROFIT from July to Sept.

RIM is a dying company....BB10 is pushed all the way back to MARCH 2013. When that tanks...RIP RIM.

You're still at this tho ?

Welp... how about this ? You can have your pyrrhic victory since you already have your mind made up I'll leave it to time to prove me right. I was right about the subprime crash in the U.S., I was right about U.S. Banks turning back to profitability, I was right about the current slowdown in China, I was right about Europe, I was right about stock markets rising over the last 3 years and I was right about RIM & Netflix the first time. If you want to bask in Apple stock go ahead. I will be right here when it falls in price just like RIM did to tell you "I told you so".

If I'm wrong then I'll buy you the next Apple product and send it to you. But I know I'm right because I've seen this movie before. You're crazy if you think in the next 3-5 years Apple will continue to crush records. The bigger they are the harder they fall. Remember Steve isn't around no more and you can only milk his inventions for so long before the rest of the market catches up & profits begin to slow up.

samsung will be there when apple falls

AHAHAHAHAHAHHAH....oh that has got to be the funniest post on this site.

Maybe to an apple stan who thinks the fact that apple gets all their tech parts from samsung because samsung makes the best shit isnt a reason to be worried.

Korea is on the come up and samsung is next in line for apple's spot.

Your an idiot if you think Apple "gets" its tech parts from Samsung. Samsung MANUFACTURES parts for Apple....something ANY company can do. Apple has already moved the display business to Sharp and the chip business is going to Taiwan Semiconductor Manufacturing Company which is the largest chip manufacturer in the world. If Samsung makes "the best shit" why does the A6 stomp the FUCK out of the Exynos? Why does the iPhone have the better display than the S3? Why does the iPhone have a better camera than the S3?

Samsung doesn't INNOVATE or bring ANYTHING new to the table. They copied the iOS features and design and got bitch slapped in court. Apple is the architect, Samsung is the carpenter....any nigga can be a carpenter.

Don't you get tired of repeating the same shit?? And that court shit was home court advantage.

Da fuck was talking to you?

Why the fuck you in a Black Berry thread taking about apple?

 

[LUClEN]

@rage

2. That chart is going by smartphone sales, the reason why I say it's foolish is b/c one company has $100 billion dollars in revenue (Apple) the other has $18 billion in revenue (RIM). It doesn't matter how many smartphones RIM ships unless they're doing $100 billion in revenue nobody on that list is outdoing Apple. In Canada RIM still has 35% market share (on it's worst year), and Apple sits at 30%. Since the total is also averaged, it also greatly misconstrues the data presented. Some countries are too small and greatly distort the average in conjunction with revenue and scale.

3. RIM has 80 million customers - up 2 million from the year before.... public perception may be bad but it didn't stop RIM from growing their subscriber base & ALSO keeping the addition 78 million customers they already had. Remember once again RIM is NOT Apple, they're a quarter of the size of Apple and they operate in a country one tenth the size of yours.
http://www.mobilebusinessbriefing.com/articles/rim-surprises-with-subscriber-increase/25423/

4. Dude the BIGGEST problem with what you're doing is comparing a company 10 times bigger than another & asking why the other isn't equal. This is like me, taking the population of Canada and trying to compare it to the U.S., 36 million to 340 million. And saying why isn't Canada as big as the United States ? You see the issue here ? No one is knocking Apple's success fam. I'm trying to save your ass from losing money. I would not invest in Apple until it plummets in price. RIM is having it's troubles NOBODY doubts that but it's not as grave as the public is saying. That's why I'm saying for people to read the financial statements to come to a proper conclusion rather than jumping on the bandwagon. The media said American banks were going out of business in 2007/2008, today many of them were bailed out & are currently doing record numbers..... use your head fam.

What RIM has to do is move away from the comparisons of Apple and focus entirely on it's own business here in Canada and in other places around the world where they are strong. They are still growing subscribership, they are still shipping millions of smartphones and maintaining their revenue. RIM has never done 5 million in a day, on average they do 20-30 million a year (they currently have $18 billion dollars in revenue) so this is why it confuses me & makes me laugh as to why people are so shocked when RIM only ships 20-30 million phones in comparison to Apple. But they don't have to do 5 million in a day if they can still ship 10 million a year and take home 1 to 3 billion in profits that's a success. They're not gonna do $40 billion in profits & neither will Samsung. But there are 80 million customers with RIM that love the product and will upgrade to BB10. Samsung, Nokia, LG, Motorola can't claim that.

2) This is a BOLD FACED LIE. That chart has FUCK all to do with revenue and you know it...if that were the case Apple would be on TOP of that list. That chart is based on DEVICE market share. If the there were 12,000,000 smartphones sold in the world during that year RIM only sold 120,000 of those smartphones. IT HAS NOTHING ABSOLUTELY NOTHING TO DO WITH REVENUE. RIM DOESNT NOT HAVE 35% market share in Canada...again another lie. It has 26% thats behind Apple's 27%.

3) 2 million users??? A less than 3% growth and this is what your happy about?? Whether RIM operates in Waterloo, Kitchener or SoCal doesnt matter, RIM competes in a GLOBAL market. They compete against Apple, Samsung, Nokia...and they are getting ROCKED.

4) Of course I am comparing RIM to APPLE...they are they're main competition. Who the fuck else are you supposed to compare RIM to? Apple/Samsung/Microsoft/Nokia/Motorola....are all out to kill RIM, why wouldnt you compare RIM's market position to those companies?? WTF??

5) Profit and RIM dont belong in the same sentence...what sheets are you looking at? They lost $225 Million last quarter, they sold 7.2 Million phones Q2 2012 vs 10 million phones in Q2 2011, The only reason they ONLY lost $225 Million is because they damn near put half of Waterloo on UI. Please stop comparing RIM to Samsung...Samsung could CRUSH RIM tomorrow. They've sold almost 15 million Galaxy S3s...and thats NOT including the other Samsung phones. Samsung just posted a $7.3 BILLION PROFIT from July to Sept.

RIM is a dying company....BB10 is pushed all the way back to MARCH 2013. When that tanks...RIP RIM.

You're still at this tho ?

Welp... how about this ? You can have your pyrrhic victory since you already have your mind made up I'll leave it to time to prove me right. I was right about the subprime crash in the U.S., I was right about U.S. Banks turning back to profitability, I was right about the current slowdown in China, I was right about Europe, I was right about stock markets rising over the last 3 years and I was right about RIM & Netflix the first time. If you want to bask in Apple stock go ahead. I will be right here when it falls in price just like RIM did to tell you "I told you so".

If I'm wrong then I'll buy you the next Apple product and send it to you. But I know I'm right because I've seen this movie before. You're crazy if you think in the next 3-5 years Apple will continue to crush records. The bigger they are the harder they fall. Remember Steve isn't around no more and you can only milk his inventions for so long before the rest of the market catches up & profits begin to slow up.

samsung will be there when apple falls

AHAHAHAHAHAHHAH....oh that has got to be the funniest post on this site.

Maybe to an apple stan who thinks the fact that apple gets all their tech parts from samsung because samsung makes the best shit isnt a reason to be worried.

Korea is on the come up and samsung is next in line for apple's spot.

Your an idiot if you think Apple "gets" its tech parts from Samsung. Samsung MANUFACTURES parts for Apple....something ANY company can do. Apple has already moved the display business to Sharp and the chip business is going to Taiwan Semiconductor Manufacturing Company which is the largest chip manufacturer in the world. If Samsung makes "the best shit" why does the A6 stomp the FUCK out of the Exynos? Why does the iPhone have the better display than the S3? Why does the iPhone have a better camera than the S3?

Samsung doesn't INNOVATE or bring ANYTHING new to the table. They copied the iOS features and design and got bitch slapped in court. Apple is the architect, Samsung is the carpenter....any nigga can be a carpenter.

Don't you get tired of repeating the same shit?? And that court shit was home court advantage.

Da fuck was talking to you?

Why the fuck you in a Black Berry thread taking about apple?

Cause bb gunnin for apple's throne

 

[goldenja]

blackberry are great

i still have the blackberry style

too bad they discontinued them for whatever reason

 

[rage]

@rage

2. That chart is going by smartphone sales, the reason why I say it's foolish is b/c one company has $100 billion dollars in revenue (Apple) the other has $18 billion in revenue (RIM). It doesn't matter how many smartphones RIM ships unless they're doing $100 billion in revenue nobody on that list is outdoing Apple. In Canada RIM still has 35% market share (on it's worst year), and Apple sits at 30%. Since the total is also averaged, it also greatly misconstrues the data presented. Some countries are too small and greatly distort the average in conjunction with revenue and scale.

3. RIM has 80 million customers - up 2 million from the year before.... public perception may be bad but it didn't stop RIM from growing their subscriber base & ALSO keeping the addition 78 million customers they already had. Remember once again RIM is NOT Apple, they're a quarter of the size of Apple and they operate in a country one tenth the size of yours.
http://www.mobilebusinessbriefing.com/articles/rim-surprises-with-subscriber-increase/25423/

4. Dude the BIGGEST problem with what you're doing is comparing a company 10 times bigger than another & asking why the other isn't equal. This is like me, taking the population of Canada and trying to compare it to the U.S., 36 million to 340 million. And saying why isn't Canada as big as the United States ? You see the issue here ? No one is knocking Apple's success fam. I'm trying to save your ass from losing money. I would not invest in Apple until it plummets in price. RIM is having it's troubles NOBODY doubts that but it's not as grave as the public is saying. That's why I'm saying for people to read the financial statements to come to a proper conclusion rather than jumping on the bandwagon. The media said American banks were going out of business in 2007/2008, today many of them were bailed out & are currently doing record numbers..... use your head fam.

What RIM has to do is move away from the comparisons of Apple and focus entirely on it's own business here in Canada and in other places around the world where they are strong. They are still growing subscribership, they are still shipping millions of smartphones and maintaining their revenue. RIM has never done 5 million in a day, on average they do 20-30 million a year (they currently have $18 billion dollars in revenue) so this is why it confuses me & makes me laugh as to why people are so shocked when RIM only ships 20-30 million phones in comparison to Apple. But they don't have to do 5 million in a day if they can still ship 10 million a year and take home 1 to 3 billion in profits that's a success. They're not gonna do $40 billion in profits & neither will Samsung. But there are 80 million customers with RIM that love the product and will upgrade to BB10. Samsung, Nokia, LG, Motorola can't claim that.

2) This is a BOLD FACED LIE. That chart has FUCK all to do with revenue and you know it...if that were the case Apple would be on TOP of that list. That chart is based on DEVICE market share. If the there were 12,000,000 smartphones sold in the world during that year RIM only sold 120,000 of those smartphones. IT HAS NOTHING ABSOLUTELY NOTHING TO DO WITH REVENUE. RIM DOESNT NOT HAVE 35% market share in Canada...again another lie. It has 26% thats behind Apple's 27%.

3) 2 million users??? A less than 3% growth and this is what your happy about?? Whether RIM operates in Waterloo, Kitchener or SoCal doesnt matter, RIM competes in a GLOBAL market. They compete against Apple, Samsung, Nokia...and they are getting ROCKED.

4) Of course I am comparing RIM to APPLE...they are they're main competition. Who the fuck else are you supposed to compare RIM to? Apple/Samsung/Microsoft/Nokia/Motorola....are all out to kill RIM, why wouldnt you compare RIM's market position to those companies?? WTF??

5) Profit and RIM dont belong in the same sentence...what sheets are you looking at? They lost $225 Million last quarter, they sold 7.2 Million phones Q2 2012 vs 10 million phones in Q2 2011, The only reason they ONLY lost $225 Million is because they damn near put half of Waterloo on UI. Please stop comparing RIM to Samsung...Samsung could CRUSH RIM tomorrow. They've sold almost 15 million Galaxy S3s...and thats NOT including the other Samsung phones. Samsung just posted a $7.3 BILLION PROFIT from July to Sept.

RIM is a dying company....BB10 is pushed all the way back to MARCH 2013. When that tanks...RIP RIM.

You're still at this tho ?

Welp... how about this ? You can have your pyrrhic victory since you already have your mind made up I'll leave it to time to prove me right. I was right about the subprime crash in the U.S., I was right about U.S. Banks turning back to profitability, I was right about the current slowdown in China, I was right about Europe, I was right about stock markets rising over the last 3 years and I was right about RIM & Netflix the first time. If you want to bask in Apple stock go ahead. I will be right here when it falls in price just like RIM did to tell you "I told you so".

If I'm wrong then I'll buy you the next Apple product and send it to you. But I know I'm right because I've seen this movie before. You're crazy if you think in the next 3-5 years Apple will continue to crush records. The bigger they are the harder they fall. Remember Steve isn't around no more and you can only milk his inventions for so long before the rest of the market catches up & profits begin to slow up.

samsung will be there when apple falls

AHAHAHAHAHAHHAH....oh that has got to be the funniest post on this site.

Maybe to an apple stan who thinks the fact that apple gets all their tech parts from samsung because samsung makes the best shit isnt a reason to be worried.

Korea is on the come up and samsung is next in line for apple's spot.

Your an idiot if you think Apple "gets" its tech parts from Samsung. Samsung MANUFACTURES parts for Apple....something ANY company can do. Apple has already moved the display business to Sharp and the chip business is going to Taiwan Semiconductor Manufacturing Company which is the largest chip manufacturer in the world. If Samsung makes "the best shit" why does the A6 stomp the FUCK out of the Exynos? Why does the iPhone have the better display than the S3? Why does the iPhone have a better camera than the S3?

Samsung doesn't INNOVATE or bring ANYTHING new to the table. They copied the iOS features and design and got bitch slapped in court. Apple is the architect, Samsung is the carpenter....any nigga can be a carpenter.

Don't you get tired of repeating the same shit?? And that court shit was home court advantage.

Da fuck was talking to you?

Why the fuck you in a Black Berry thread taking about apple?

I didnt bring Apple into the discussion. Again, its you niggas that have more of an obsession with Apple than any Apple Fanboy.

 

[rage]

COT DAYUM!!! HAHAHAHAH @ their Senior VP singing like a buffoon on a video for devs.
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/10/16/t...becomes-a-source-of-shame-for-users.html?_r=2

“I want to take a bat to it,” Ms. Crosby said, after waiting for her phone’s browser to load for the third minute, only to watch the battery die. “You can’t do anything with it. You’re supposed to, but it’s all a big lie.”

Goldman Sachs recently gave its employees the option to use an iPhone. Covington & Burling, a major law firm, did the same at the urging of associates. Even the White House, which used the BlackBerry for security reasons, recently started supporting the iPhone. (Some staff members suspect that decision was influenced by President Obama, who now prefers his iPad for national security briefings. A spokesman for the White House declined to comment.)



RIM’s most recent efforts to hold on to loyal customers, as well as software developers building apps for its next generation of phones scheduled to be available next year, have elicited universal cringes. In a recent promotional video, Alec Saunders, RIM’s vice president for developer relations, is shown belting out a rock song titled “Devs, BlackBerry Is Going to Keep on Loving You,” a riff on the 1981 power ballad by REO Speedwagon “Keep on Loving You.”

“This is the sign of a desperate company,” said Nick Mindel, a 26-year-old investment analyst. “Come on, BlackBerry, I always had some faith, but you just lost a customer. Frankly, I don’t think they can afford to lose many more.”

After eight years with a BlackBerry, Mr. Mindel said he just joined the wait list for the iPhone 5. When it arrives, he said, "I’m considering removing my BlackBerry battery, pouring in cement, and using the BlackBerry as an actual paperweight.”

 

[rage]

@rage

2. That chart is going by smartphone sales, the reason why I say it's foolish is b/c one company has $100 billion dollars in revenue (Apple) the other has $18 billion in revenue (RIM). It doesn't matter how many smartphones RIM ships unless they're doing $100 billion in revenue nobody on that list is outdoing Apple. In Canada RIM still has 35% market share (on it's worst year), and Apple sits at 30%. Since the total is also averaged, it also greatly misconstrues the data presented. Some countries are too small and greatly distort the average in conjunction with revenue and scale.

3. RIM has 80 million customers - up 2 million from the year before.... public perception may be bad but it didn't stop RIM from growing their subscriber base & ALSO keeping the addition 78 million customers they already had. Remember once again RIM is NOT Apple, they're a quarter of the size of Apple and they operate in a country one tenth the size of yours.
http://www.mobilebusinessbriefing.com/articles/rim-surprises-with-subscriber-increase/25423/

4. Dude the BIGGEST problem with what you're doing is comparing a company 10 times bigger than another & asking why the other isn't equal. This is like me, taking the population of Canada and trying to compare it to the U.S., 36 million to 340 million. And saying why isn't Canada as big as the United States ? You see the issue here ? No one is knocking Apple's success fam. I'm trying to save your ass from losing money. I would not invest in Apple until it plummets in price. RIM is having it's troubles NOBODY doubts that but it's not as grave as the public is saying. That's why I'm saying for people to read the financial statements to come to a proper conclusion rather than jumping on the bandwagon. The media said American banks were going out of business in 2007/2008, today many of them were bailed out & are currently doing record numbers..... use your head fam.

What RIM has to do is move away from the comparisons of Apple and focus entirely on it's own business here in Canada and in other places around the world where they are strong. They are still growing subscribership, they are still shipping millions of smartphones and maintaining their revenue. RIM has never done 5 million in a day, on average they do 20-30 million a year (they currently have $18 billion dollars in revenue) so this is why it confuses me & makes me laugh as to why people are so shocked when RIM only ships 20-30 million phones in comparison to Apple. But they don't have to do 5 million in a day if they can still ship 10 million a year and take home 1 to 3 billion in profits that's a success. They're not gonna do $40 billion in profits & neither will Samsung. But there are 80 million customers with RIM that love the product and will upgrade to BB10. Samsung, Nokia, LG, Motorola can't claim that.

2) This is a BOLD FACED LIE. That chart has FUCK all to do with revenue and you know it...if that were the case Apple would be on TOP of that list. That chart is based on DEVICE market share. If the there were 12,000,000 smartphones sold in the world during that year RIM only sold 120,000 of those smartphones. IT HAS NOTHING ABSOLUTELY NOTHING TO DO WITH REVENUE. RIM DOESNT NOT HAVE 35% market share in Canada...again another lie. It has 26% thats behind Apple's 27%.

3) 2 million users??? A less than 3% growth and this is what your happy about?? Whether RIM operates in Waterloo, Kitchener or SoCal doesnt matter, RIM competes in a GLOBAL market. They compete against Apple, Samsung, Nokia...and they are getting ROCKED.

4) Of course I am comparing RIM to APPLE...they are they're main competition. Who the fuck else are you supposed to compare RIM to? Apple/Samsung/Microsoft/Nokia/Motorola....are all out to kill RIM, why wouldnt you compare RIM's market position to those companies?? WTF??

5) Profit and RIM dont belong in the same sentence...what sheets are you looking at? They lost $225 Million last quarter, they sold 7.2 Million phones Q2 2012 vs 10 million phones in Q2 2011, The only reason they ONLY lost $225 Million is because they damn near put half of Waterloo on UI. Please stop comparing RIM to Samsung...Samsung could CRUSH RIM tomorrow. They've sold almost 15 million Galaxy S3s...and thats NOT including the other Samsung phones. Samsung just posted a $7.3 BILLION PROFIT from July to Sept.

RIM is a dying company....BB10 is pushed all the way back to MARCH 2013. When that tanks...RIP RIM.

You're still at this tho ?

Welp... how about this ? You can have your pyrrhic victory since you already have your mind made up I'll leave it to time to prove me right. I was right about the subprime crash in the U.S., I was right about U.S. Banks turning back to profitability, I was right about the current slowdown in China, I was right about Europe, I was right about stock markets rising over the last 3 years and I was right about RIM & Netflix the first time. If you want to bask in Apple stock go ahead. I will be right here when it falls in price just like RIM did to tell you "I told you so".

If I'm wrong then I'll buy you the next Apple product and send it to you. But I know I'm right because I've seen this movie before. You're crazy if you think in the next 3-5 years Apple will continue to crush records. The bigger they are the harder they fall. Remember Steve isn't around no more and you can only milk his inventions for so long before the rest of the market catches up & profits begin to slow up.

samsung will be there when apple falls

AHAHAHAHAHAHHAH....oh that has got to be the funniest post on this site.

Maybe to an apple stan who thinks the fact that apple gets all their tech parts from samsung because samsung makes the best shit isnt a reason to be worried.

Korea is on the come up and samsung is next in line for apple's spot.

Your an idiot if you think Apple "gets" its tech parts from Samsung. Samsung MANUFACTURES parts for Apple....something ANY company can do. Apple has already moved the display business to Sharp and the chip business is going to Taiwan Semiconductor Manufacturing Company which is the largest chip manufacturer in the world. If Samsung makes "the best shit" why does the A6 stomp the FUCK out of the Exynos? Why does the iPhone have the better display than the S3? Why does the iPhone have a better camera than the S3?

Samsung doesn't INNOVATE or bring ANYTHING new to the table. They copied the iOS features and design and got bitch slapped in court. Apple is the architect, Samsung is the carpenter....any nigga can be a carpenter.

Don't you get tired of repeating the same shit?? And that court shit was home court advantage.

Da fuck was talking to you?

Why the fuck you in a Black Berry thread taking about apple?

Cause bb gunnin for apple's throne

LOL....even their OWN CEO doesnt believe this nonsense
http://allthingsd.com/20121016/rims-latest-bb10-developer-plan-grow-your-own/

Research In Motion CEO Thorsten Heins may be right when he says his struggling company has “a clear shot at being No. 3” in the smartphone market. But it’s not going to attain that spot on the strength of its forthcoming BlackBerry 10 operating system, even if the OS does prove to be a miracle of innovation.

Bronze medal ass niggas...

 

[blakfyahking]

people underestimate the fickleness of consumers in the smartphone market

apple's branding is too strong and RIM's strategy is too broad to compete even tho their financials look attractive

 

[rage]

people OVERestimate the fickleness of consumers in the smartphone market

apple's branding is too strong and RIM's strategy is too broad to compete even tho their financials look attractive

Corrected. "People" i.e. dumbass nobodies are under this misguided notion that Apple's success is due to being the "cool thing" or they user base are "sheep". Its the easy way out. But if you read what CEOs, Econ Strategists, Investment Analysts say they will tell you that Apple has some of the if not THE HIGHEST customer satisfaction ratings in the world. Whether its a laptop, tablet, or phone their shit runs like a swiss watch.

 

[blakfyahking]

people OVERestimate the fickleness of consumers in the smartphone market

apple's branding is too strong and RIM's strategy is too broad to compete even tho their financials look attractive

Corrected. "People" i.e. dumbass nobodies are under this misguided notion that Apple's success is due to being the "cool thing" or they user base are "sheep". Its the easy way out. But if you read what CEOs, Econ Strategists, Investment Analysts say they will tell you that Apple has some of the if not THE HIGHEST customer satisfaction ratings in the world. Whether its a laptop, tablet, or phone their shit runs like a swiss watch.

*looks at my ipod nano that was bought in 2006 and still works perfectly*

I can't even dispute the bolded

however on the numbers alone Apple is serious overvalued

as a product Apple is great.............as an investment tho:

Apple's day of reckoning is coming within the next 5 years

 

[MrSoutCity]

people OVERestimate the fickleness of consumers in the smartphone market

apple's branding is too strong and RIM's strategy is too broad to compete even tho their financials look attractive

Corrected. "People" i.e. dumbass nobodies are under this misguided notion that Apple's success is due to being the "cool thing" or they user base are "sheep". Its the easy way out. But if you read what CEOs, Econ Strategists, Investment Analysts say they will tell you that Apple has some of the if not THE HIGHEST customer satisfaction ratings in the world. Whether its a laptop, tablet, or phone their shit runs like a swiss watch.

*looks at my ipod nano that was bought in 2006 and still works perfectly*

I can't even dispute the bolded

however on the numbers alone Apple is serious overvalued

as a product Apple is great.............as an investment tho:

Apple's day of reckoning is coming within the next 5 years

This is what sion been trying to tell rage.

 

[rage]

people OVERestimate the fickleness of consumers in the smartphone market

apple's branding is too strong and RIM's strategy is too broad to compete even tho their financials look attractive

Corrected. "People" i.e. dumbass nobodies are under this misguided notion that Apple's success is due to being the "cool thing" or they user base are "sheep". Its the easy way out. But if you read what CEOs, Econ Strategists, Investment Analysts say they will tell you that Apple has some of the if not THE HIGHEST customer satisfaction ratings in the world. Whether its a laptop, tablet, or phone their shit runs like a swiss watch.

*looks at my ipod nano that was bought in 2006 and still works perfectly*

I can't even dispute the bolded

however on the numbers alone Apple is serious overvalued

as a product Apple is great.............as an investment tho:

Apple's day of reckoning is coming within the next 5 years

And this is based on??

 

[Stew]

Everything that goes up, must come down