The Official Biggie Vs Jay-Z Thread...

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Fazeem Blackall;652388 said:
From style and flow to longetivity and versatility Jigga has alway done what Big Did and better minus the Homo Lyrics. The very fact he is still breathing and 1 of the flagship faces of Mainstream HipHop Proves this fact more. Anyone saying otherwise is either trend jumping, a badboy/biggie groupie, or delusional...

Shut the fuck up...
 
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Lol at Fazeem adding all the tags in this thread. You can debate all you want and I must say that good points were made on both sides but the T/S himself belives that if you think Biggie is better than Jay then you are certain type of person automatically.

Like I said before this was made to make Biggie fans "catch feelings"

Just debate it at face value.
 
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jamacia;698136 said:
Lol at Fazeem adding all the tags in this thread. You can debate all you want and I must say that good points were made on both sides but the T/S himself belives that if you think Biggie is better than Jay then you are certain type of person automatically.

Like I said before this was made to make Biggie fans "catch feelings"

Just debate it at face value.
wow interseting naration... We already know wo you Stan for as you can relate to Lyrics a lot of us cannot from him. That said Jigga is everything Bigge aspired to be without the deviant molestation and homo Lyrics. Jigga played smart indutry politics and has kept out of the Line of Fire and thus been able to move up the ranks. What he shared with Biggie was asimilar origin and he learned from Biggies mistakes which in the end Cost Biggie his life. Jigga has made consitantly better music because of these Choices and you stans should recognise this and evolve instead of being stuck in fantasy world where Biggie Could Have, Would Have, Should have, was going too, But tragically never did as abasis for arguing against Jigga...
 
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Fazeem Blackall;698196 said:
wow interseting naration... We already know wo you Stan for as you can relate to Lyrics a lot of us cannot from him. That said Jigga is everything Bigge aspired to be without the deviant molestation and homo Lyrics. Jigga played smart indutry politics and has kept out of the Line of Fire and thus been able to move up the ranks. What he shared with Biggie was asimilar origin and he learned from Biggies mistakes which in the end Cost Biggie his life. Jigga has made consitantly better music because of these Choices and you stans should recognise this and evolve instead of being stuck in fantasy world where Biggie Could Have, Would Have, Should have, was going too, But tragically never did as abasis for arguing against Jigga...

I am arguing based on what Big put out vs what Jigga has put out during his career, I never mentioned what Biggie would have done but didn't. Based on that Big's two albums are better than anything Jigga put out. Oh by the way I am not a Biggie stan I am just debating an opinion.
 
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ay i been on this site for a hot minute now n every biggie thread made this nigga fazeem comes in n drops his 2 cents of hate on a dead man.
btw it aint fair comparing a 3 year career to a 15 year career. compare them while they was alive n big will come out on top.

the funny thing is that yall forgettin is that big was gettin better by the album as far as skills go n jay started makin better music but dumb down for his audience so he could triple his dollas.
 
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rico_ENS;698238 said:
ay i been on this site for a hot minute now n every biggie thread made this nigga fazeem comes in n drops his 2 cents of hate on a dead man.
btw it aint fair comparing a 3 year career to a 15 year career. compare them while they was alive n big will come out on top.

the funny thing is that yall forgettin is that big was gettin better by the album as far as skills go n jay started makin better music but dumb down for his audience so he could triple his dollas.
A hot minute but you have 19 posts atthis point, Hmm aliases say the darnedest things exposing themselves. I find it funny that those who stan for a Artist any Artist whether it is Biggie, Eminem, Jigga, 2pac, Lil Wayne, G-Unit or Whoever cannot take criticism and if you point out facts you are hating, If you are not feeling the individual you are hating, If you judge them against other artists doing the same type of music you are hating. And these same stans will create multiple accounts to argue and defend their positions in a attempt to convert your mind...
 
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Fazeem Blackall;698265 said:
A hot minute but you have 19 posts atthis point, Hmm aliases say the darnedest things exposing themselves. I find it funny that those who stan for a Artist any Artist whether it is Biggie, Eminem, Jigga, 2pac, Lil Wayne, G-Unit or Whoever cannot take criticism and if you point out facts you are hating, If you are not feeling the individual you are hating, If you judge them against other artists doing the same type of music you are hating. And these same stans will create multiple accounts to argue and defend their positions in a attempt to convert your mind...

Yet this only applys when they argue against your favor, not when they supposedly do this in your favor.
 
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Ready To Die vs Reasonable Doubt - I take Reasonable Doubt

Life after Death vs In My Lifetime Vol 1 - I take Life after Death

But RD gets more replay value then both Big CD's. Thats just my opinion
 
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jamacia;698275 said:
Yet this only applys when they argue against your favor, not when they supposedly do this in your favor.
naw stanley it applys at all times for all artists I have recognised when a fan conversates because they can be objective, just an example of a Biggie Fan Would Genastasia respectable and objective and a female to Boot , quite the opposite of Stan Like Dretox who create multiple accounts or one like yourself who just misuses his position and power to push his points. You kats cannot handle the basics with out getting Homotional about those of us who do not fall in line. Maybe not so much this thread from you but others and even yourself in past threads have proven your inability to be an objective fan about subjects and most in this thread can only argue off of fantsy scenerios that did not happen...
 
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Fazeem Blackall;698331 said:
naw stanley it applys at all times for all artists I have recognised when a fan conversates because they can be objective, just an example of a Biggie Fan Would Genastasia respectable and objective and a female to Boot , quite the opposite of Stan Like Dretox who create multiple accounts or one like yourself who just misuses his position and power to push his points. You kats cannot handle the basics with out getting Homotional about those of us who do not fall in line. Maybe not so much this thread from you but others and even yourself in past threads have proven your inability to be an objective fan about subjects and most in this thread can only argue off of fantsy scenerios that did not happen...

You're not saying anything and this is just one big pile of gibberish.
 
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jamacia;698733 said:
You're not saying anything and this is just one big pile of gibberish.
yeah I know your understanding level is remedial at best and your Love for Biggie makes you feel apart of something while off in your delusional basement world. But that does not change the facts, just because you are in capable of getting it...
 
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Fazeem Blackall;698752 said:
yeah I know your understanding level is remedial at best and your Love for Biggie makes you feel apart of something while off in your delusional basement world. But that does not change the facts, just because you are in capable of getting it...

oh okay cool .
 
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Outside of actual lyricism and double meanings and wordplay, I could see how one would favor Biggie over Jay-Z. Personally, Jay was always more gifted with regards to putting words together.

Biggie had the better voice and delivery with some personality to boot in his rhymes. Great flow as well, not as many flows as Hov.

And Biggie spit better hardcore lyrics for those who favor that style over slick lyrics that Hov spit.

Obviously Biggie told better stories. Kinda has that edge by default cause Hov never really explored the storytelling aspect of rhyme till later in his career.

All in all ima still say that Hov at his best edges Biggie. Still can't find one Biggie track that can lyrically compete with what Hov spit on Pressure on Lupes first album. Quadruple, and double meanings all over that verse.

Victory is classic, Big rode the beat perfect but if we talking about wordplay it doesn't compare to Pressure
 
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I don't get how we can do these same threads, but yet everybody still continues to comment on them.
 
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You know what actually he did on " Give It To Me" he did get songwriting credit. But I'm tired of people acting like Jay is the only one using biggie lines. It's also funny how no one complains about how Biggie did a Schooly D song over or when he spit a Biz Markie line in the beginning of "What's Beef" You think Biz deserves co writer credit too?
 
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