The Official 2015-16 NBA Thread

[IceBergTaylor]

I came in here and the first thing I see is "Curry is Shaq dominant"

 

[Los216]

Only reason niggaz say Steph is dominant is because he's the best player on the best team. They only reason he has the freedom to play the way he does is because he has good players around him that keeps teams for loading their defenses up against him. He is dominate but I wouldn't say in the same regard that Shaq was during his hey dad, or MJ or guya like that. They were getting buckets through double and triple teams. Steph doesn't. Don't lie and say he does it. Guarantee you if he was on a worse team he would not be as dominant. He would still get buckets of course cuz he can shoot the lights out. But watch how he gets his points. He ain't just coming through and breaking two and three players down to get buckets. He gets a lot of buckets off of open shots, screens and getting open on broken plays. He ain't on MJ, Kobe, Shaq, or even Lebron's level when it comes to dominance. We've seen all of these dudes get buckets with defenses loaded up to stop them on far worse teams, with wayyyy less help.

We say he's dominant cuz he's dominant b

U have a point on everything else although I don't think "lol not as dominant as mj or Shaq" "he shoots off screens" or "has good teammates" constitutes as a knock on curry

What aspects of the game does he dominate? How many different facets of the game does he dominate?

3 point shooting

Handles

What else?

3 pts shooting is enough, he's a great scorer as well and good playmaker and above avg position rebounder, nobodies gonna be dominant in every category, he's not a transcendent like shaq mj or LeBron but he is great

@ the bolded? No 3 point shooting is not enough. Dominant players dominate at more than one thing. He's an excellent shooter and above average ball handler. After that he does nothing above average.

 

[blu197]

Only reason niggaz say Steph is dominant is because he's the best player on the best team. They only reason he has the freedom to play the way he does is because he has good players around him that keeps teams for loading their defenses up against him. He is dominate but I wouldn't say in the same regard that Shaq was during his hey dad, or MJ or guya like that. They were getting buckets through double and triple teams. Steph doesn't. Don't lie and say he does it. Guarantee you if he was on a worse team he would not be as dominant. He would still get buckets of course cuz he can shoot the lights out. But watch how he gets his points. He ain't just coming through and breaking two and three players down to get buckets. He gets a lot of buckets off of open shots, screens and getting open on broken plays. He ain't on MJ, Kobe, Shaq, or even Lebron's level when it comes to dominance. We've seen all of these dudes get buckets with defenses loaded up to stop them on far worse teams, with wayyyy less help.

We say he's dominant cuz he's dominant b

U have a point on everything else although I don't think "lol not as dominant as mj or Shaq" "he shoots off screens" or "has good teammates" constitutes as a knock on curry

What aspects of the game does he dominate? How many different facets of the game does he dominate?

3 point shooting

Handles

What else?

Curry can drive, finish at rim, finish in traffic, make Free throws, efficient mid range and 3pt shooter, he's a complete scorer... He's Ai except he's not inefficient and doesn't need 30 shots to get 30 pts and he let's he team mates contribute and doesn't try to do it all by himself..

 

[Peezy_Jenkins]

Only reason niggaz say Steph is dominant is because he's the best player on the best team. They only reason he has the freedom to play the way he does is because he has good players around him that keeps teams for loading their defenses up against him. He is dominate but I wouldn't say in the same regard that Shaq was during his hey dad, or MJ or guya like that. They were getting buckets through double and triple teams. Steph doesn't. Don't lie and say he does it. Guarantee you if he was on a worse team he would not be as dominant. He would still get buckets of course cuz he can shoot the lights out. But watch how he gets his points. He ain't just coming through and breaking two and three players down to get buckets. He gets a lot of buckets off of open shots, screens and getting open on broken plays. He ain't on MJ, Kobe, Shaq, or even Lebron's level when it comes to dominance. We've seen all of these dudes get buckets with defenses loaded up to stop them on far worse teams, with wayyyy less help.

We say he's dominant cuz he's dominant b

U have a point on everything else although I don't think "lol not as dominant as mj or Shaq" "he shoots off screens" or "has good teammates" constitutes as a knock on curry

It aint a knock on him, it is what it is. It ain't Curry's fault GS built a team around him to get the best out of him. Its clearly working but, we can't try and act like it's all based on what he is capable of individually. He's in a good situation but he wouldn't be the same player in a worse situation. We've seen Kobe average 35 with garbage teammates and defenses doubling and tripling him. We've seen MJ average 38 with mediocre teammates and double teams and triple teams We saw LeBron average 30, 7 and 8 with trash teammates. When Curry had ass teammates he wasn't even close to touching that lol. He is a great player B. We all agree with that, but he just ain't up there with the top dogs right now.

Those guys were transcending talents, curry isn't quite imo, but also when curry had ass teammates, he was a rookie, and the next 2 seasons had 1 ankle, he turned the corner and was dropping 50 pts games in year 4 tho we also can't forget that. Not his fault he had great teammates and was approaching his prime at the same time. The potential to reach the big dogs is definitely there

On another note bolded is exactly what I also think of draymond

 

[bless the child]

Only reason niggaz say Steph is dominant is because he's the best player on the best team. They only reason he has the freedom to play the way he does is because he has good players around him that keeps teams for loading their defenses up against him. He is dominate but I wouldn't say in the same regard that Shaq was during his hey dad, or MJ or guya like that. They were getting buckets through double and triple teams. Steph doesn't. Don't lie and say he does it. Guarantee you if he was on a worse team he would not be as dominant. He would still get buckets of course cuz he can shoot the lights out. But watch how he gets his points. He ain't just coming through and breaking two and three players down to get buckets. He gets a lot of buckets off of open shots, screens and getting open on broken plays. He ain't on MJ, Kobe, Shaq, or even Lebron's level when it comes to dominance. We've seen all of these dudes get buckets with defenses loaded up to stop them on far worse teams, with wayyyy less help.

We say he's dominant cuz he's dominant b

U have a point on everything else although I don't think "lol not as dominant as mj or Shaq" "he shoots off screens" or "has good teammates" constitutes as a knock on curry

What aspects of the game does he dominate? How many different facets of the game does he dominate?

3 point shooting

Handles

What else?

3 pts shooting is enough, he's a great scorer as well and good playmaker and above avg position rebounder, nobodies gonna be dominant in every category, he's not a transcendent like shaq mj or LeBron but he is great

@ the bolded? No 3 point shooting is not enough. Dominant players dominate at more than one thing. He's an excellent shooter and above average ball handler. After that he does nothing above average.

Word. The nigga will have the occasional game where he rebounds good, or his passing is next level, but most nights, it's just the 3.

 

[Los216]

Only reason niggaz say Steph is dominant is because he's the best player on the best team. They only reason he has the freedom to play the way he does is because he has good players around him that keeps teams for loading their defenses up against him. He is dominate but I wouldn't say in the same regard that Shaq was during his hey dad, or MJ or guya like that. They were getting buckets through double and triple teams. Steph doesn't. Don't lie and say he does it. Guarantee you if he was on a worse team he would not be as dominant. He would still get buckets of course cuz he can shoot the lights out. But watch how he gets his points. He ain't just coming through and breaking two and three players down to get buckets. He gets a lot of buckets off of open shots, screens and getting open on broken plays. He ain't on MJ, Kobe, Shaq, or even Lebron's level when it comes to dominance. We've seen all of these dudes get buckets with defenses loaded up to stop them on far worse teams, with wayyyy less help.

We say he's dominant cuz he's dominant b

U have a point on everything else although I don't think "lol not as dominant as mj or Shaq" "he shoots off screens" or "has good teammates" constitutes as a knock on curry

It aint a knock on him, it is what it is. It ain't Curry's fault GS built a team around him to get the best out of him. Its clearly working but, we can't try and act like it's all based on what he is capable of individually. He's in a good situation but he wouldn't be the same player in a worse situation. We've seen Kobe average 35 with garbage teammates and defenses doubling and tripling him. We've seen MJ average 38 with mediocre teammates and double teams and triple teams We saw LeBron average 30, 7 and 8 with trash teammates. When Curry had ass teammates he wasn't even close to touching that lol. He is a great player B. We all agree with that, but he just ain't up there with the top dogs right now.

That's why I asked him if Curry could take the Lakers or the 76ers to the playoffs. Nigga if you put Lebron on the Current Lakers squad they would challenge for home court in the west right now. Curry would have them right where they are now. Dominant players do things like that. Curry isn't that kind of player.

 

[Peezy_Jenkins]

Only reason niggaz say Steph is dominant is because he's the best player on the best team. They only reason he has the freedom to play the way he does is because he has good players around him that keeps teams for loading their defenses up against him. He is dominate but I wouldn't say in the same regard that Shaq was during his hey dad, or MJ or guya like that. They were getting buckets through double and triple teams. Steph doesn't. Don't lie and say he does it. Guarantee you if he was on a worse team he would not be as dominant. He would still get buckets of course cuz he can shoot the lights out. But watch how he gets his points. He ain't just coming through and breaking two and three players down to get buckets. He gets a lot of buckets off of open shots, screens and getting open on broken plays. He ain't on MJ, Kobe, Shaq, or even Lebron's level when it comes to dominance. We've seen all of these dudes get buckets with defenses loaded up to stop them on far worse teams, with wayyyy less help.

We say he's dominant cuz he's dominant b

U have a point on everything else although I don't think "lol not as dominant as mj or Shaq" "he shoots off screens" or "has good teammates" constitutes as a knock on curry

What aspects of the game does he dominate? How many different facets of the game does he dominate?

3 point shooting

Handles

What else?

3 pts shooting is enough, he's a great scorer as well and good playmaker and above avg position rebounder, nobodies gonna be dominant in every category, he's not a transcendent like shaq mj or LeBron but he is great

@ the bolded? No 3 point shooting is not enough. Dominant players dominate at more than one thing. He's an excellent shooter and above average ball handler. After that he does nothing above average.

Kobe only dominated scoring and was good to great in other categories PP dominated scoring less than that, but they dominant and curry not?

Dominant shooter and ball handler, great scorer, good playmaker/passer, can easily take over games, that's dominant to me, not on mj or bron level but still dominant

 

[Los216]

Only reason niggaz say Steph is dominant is because he's the best player on the best team. They only reason he has the freedom to play the way he does is because he has good players around him that keeps teams for loading their defenses up against him. He is dominate but I wouldn't say in the same regard that Shaq was during his hey dad, or MJ or guya like that. They were getting buckets through double and triple teams. Steph doesn't. Don't lie and say he does it. Guarantee you if he was on a worse team he would not be as dominant. He would still get buckets of course cuz he can shoot the lights out. But watch how he gets his points. He ain't just coming through and breaking two and three players down to get buckets. He gets a lot of buckets off of open shots, screens and getting open on broken plays. He ain't on MJ, Kobe, Shaq, or even Lebron's level when it comes to dominance. We've seen all of these dudes get buckets with defenses loaded up to stop them on far worse teams, with wayyyy less help.

We say he's dominant cuz he's dominant b

U have a point on everything else although I don't think "lol not as dominant as mj or Shaq" "he shoots off screens" or "has good teammates" constitutes as a knock on curry

What aspects of the game does he dominate? How many different facets of the game does he dominate?

3 point shooting

Handles

What else?

Curry can drive, finish at rim, finish in traffic, make Free throws, efficient mid range and 3pt shooter, he's a complete scorer... He's Ai except he's not inefficient and doesn't need 30 shots to get 30 pts and he let's he team mates contribute and doesn't try to do it all by himself..

C'mon man lol. How long you been watching basketball? I'm sure the AI stans in the cheap seats gone git you for that lol. Seriously though Allen Iverson is 5'11 165 soken wet. I've stood next to him personally. I'm 5'11 185. Dude is small. Iverson is one of the most dominant players EVER. Don't compare Curry to him when discussing dominant players. Look at those 76ers squads he played on.

 

[Peezy_Jenkins]

Only reason niggaz say Steph is dominant is because he's the best player on the best team. They only reason he has the freedom to play the way he does is because he has good players around him that keeps teams for loading their defenses up against him. He is dominate but I wouldn't say in the same regard that Shaq was during his hey dad, or MJ or guya like that. They were getting buckets through double and triple teams. Steph doesn't. Don't lie and say he does it. Guarantee you if he was on a worse team he would not be as dominant. He would still get buckets of course cuz he can shoot the lights out. But watch how he gets his points. He ain't just coming through and breaking two and three players down to get buckets. He gets a lot of buckets off of open shots, screens and getting open on broken plays. He ain't on MJ, Kobe, Shaq, or even Lebron's level when it comes to dominance. We've seen all of these dudes get buckets with defenses loaded up to stop them on far worse teams, with wayyyy less help.

We say he's dominant cuz he's dominant b

U have a point on everything else although I don't think "lol not as dominant as mj or Shaq" "he shoots off screens" or "has good teammates" constitutes as a knock on curry

What aspects of the game does he dominate? How many different facets of the game does he dominate?

3 point shooting

Handles

What else?

3 pts shooting is enough, he's a great scorer as well and good playmaker and above avg position rebounder, nobodies gonna be dominant in every category, he's not a transcendent like shaq mj or LeBron but he is great

@ the bolded? No 3 point shooting is not enough. Dominant players dominate at more than one thing. He's an excellent shooter and above average ball handler. After that he does nothing above average.

Word. The nigga will have the occasional game where he rebounds good, or his passing is next level, but most nights, it's just the 3.

Dude avg 5 rebounds that's above avg for a pg, and isn't the only playmaker on the team but still is great at making them, cut it out acting like this dude would b 30 year old Kevin Martin on another team

 

[Peezy_Jenkins]

Only reason niggaz say Steph is dominant is because he's the best player on the best team. They only reason he has the freedom to play the way he does is because he has good players around him that keeps teams for loading their defenses up against him. He is dominate but I wouldn't say in the same regard that Shaq was during his hey dad, or MJ or guya like that. They were getting buckets through double and triple teams. Steph doesn't. Don't lie and say he does it. Guarantee you if he was on a worse team he would not be as dominant. He would still get buckets of course cuz he can shoot the lights out. But watch how he gets his points. He ain't just coming through and breaking two and three players down to get buckets. He gets a lot of buckets off of open shots, screens and getting open on broken plays. He ain't on MJ, Kobe, Shaq, or even Lebron's level when it comes to dominance. We've seen all of these dudes get buckets with defenses loaded up to stop them on far worse teams, with wayyyy less help.

We say he's dominant cuz he's dominant b

U have a point on everything else although I don't think "lol not as dominant as mj or Shaq" "he shoots off screens" or "has good teammates" constitutes as a knock on curry

It aint a knock on him, it is what it is. It ain't Curry's fault GS built a team around him to get the best out of him. Its clearly working but, we can't try and act like it's all based on what he is capable of individually. He's in a good situation but he wouldn't be the same player in a worse situation. We've seen Kobe average 35 with garbage teammates and defenses doubling and tripling him. We've seen MJ average 38 with mediocre teammates and double teams and triple teams We saw LeBron average 30, 7 and 8 with trash teammates. When Curry had ass teammates he wasn't even close to touching that lol. He is a great player B. We all agree with that, but he just ain't up there with the top dogs right now.

That's why I asked him if Curry could take the Lakers or the 76ers to the playoffs. Nigga if you put Lebron on the Current Lakers squad they would challenge for home court in the west right now. Curry would have them right where they are now. Dominant players do things like that. Curry isn't that kind of player.

Yeah u know what, y'all got it...

 

[Los216]

Only reason niggaz say Steph is dominant is because he's the best player on the best team. They only reason he has the freedom to play the way he does is because he has good players around him that keeps teams for loading their defenses up against him. He is dominate but I wouldn't say in the same regard that Shaq was during his hey dad, or MJ or guya like that. They were getting buckets through double and triple teams. Steph doesn't. Don't lie and say he does it. Guarantee you if he was on a worse team he would not be as dominant. He would still get buckets of course cuz he can shoot the lights out. But watch how he gets his points. He ain't just coming through and breaking two and three players down to get buckets. He gets a lot of buckets off of open shots, screens and getting open on broken plays. He ain't on MJ, Kobe, Shaq, or even Lebron's level when it comes to dominance. We've seen all of these dudes get buckets with defenses loaded up to stop them on far worse teams, with wayyyy less help.

We say he's dominant cuz he's dominant b

U have a point on everything else although I don't think "lol not as dominant as mj or Shaq" "he shoots off screens" or "has good teammates" constitutes as a knock on curry

What aspects of the game does he dominate? How many different facets of the game does he dominate?

3 point shooting

Handles

What else?

3 pts shooting is enough, he's a great scorer as well and good playmaker and above avg position rebounder, nobodies gonna be dominant in every category, he's not a transcendent like shaq mj or LeBron but he is great

@ the bolded? No 3 point shooting is not enough. Dominant players dominate at more than one thing. He's an excellent shooter and above average ball handler. After that he does nothing above average.

Kobe only dominated scoring and was good to great in other categories PP dominated scoring less than that, but they dominant and curry not?

Dominant shooter and ball handler, great scorer, good playmaker/passer, can easily take over games, that's dominant to me, not on mj or bron level but still dominant

Bruh Kobe only dominated scoring?????????

 

[blu197]

I came in here and the first thing I see is "Curry is Shaq dominant"

How did you stop Shaq? Exploit him on Defense to get him in foul trouble and hack his ass...

How do you stop Curry? Be physical with him? Teams tried it, it didn't work.. Make him "play D"? PGs have tried and it didn't work... The only thing that stops Curry is if he has a rare off night..

Curry is the opposite of Shaq in every way, but just as dominant... And Curry is currently doing more with less than Shaq ever did, how many HOF players and GOAT role players did Shaq play with? Is Curry even playing with another HOF player right now?

If/When Curry wins another MVP/Title he would have more MVPs than Shaq and half the rings and the same amount of rings as Lebron (who had more stacked teams) and half the MVPs, let that sink in...

 

[Los216]

Watch the Dubs vs Wizards game tonight. Let's see how often Curry guards John Wall.

 

[Los216]

I came in here and the first thing I see is "Curry is Shaq dominant"

How did you stop Shaq? Exploit him on Defense to get him in foul trouble and hack his ass...

How do you stop Curry? Be physical with him? Teams tried it, it didn't work.. Make him "play D"? PGs have tried and it didn't work... The only thing that stops Curry is if he has a rare off night..

Curry is the opposite of Shaq in every way, but just as dominant... And Curry is currently doing more with less than Shaq ever did, how many HOF players and GOAT role players did Shaq play with? Is Curry even playing with another HOF player right now?

If/When Curry wins another MVP/Title he would have more MVPs than Shaq and half the rings and the same amount of rings as Lebron (who had more stacked teams) and half the MVPs, let that sink in...

My nigga........?

Did you just say that Curry is just as dominant as Shaq and at the same time talk about exploiting Shaqs defense (like Curry plays defense)

 

[detcatinva]

hey @Los216 shut the fuck up

 

[blu197]

I came in here and the first thing I see is "Curry is Shaq dominant"

How did you stop Shaq? Exploit him on Defense to get him in foul trouble and hack his ass...

How do you stop Curry? Be physical with him? Teams tried it, it didn't work.. Make him "play D"? PGs have tried and it didn't work... The only thing that stops Curry is if he has a rare off night..

Curry is the opposite of Shaq in every way, but just as dominant... And Curry is currently doing more with less than Shaq ever did, how many HOF players and GOAT role players did Shaq play with? Is Curry even playing with another HOF player right now?

If/When Curry wins another MVP/Title he would have more MVPs than Shaq and half the rings and the same amount of rings as Lebron (who had more stacked teams) and half the MVPs, let that sink in...

My nigga........?

Did you just say that Curry is just as dominant as Shaq and at the same time talk about exploiting Shaqs defense (like Curry plays defense)

Curry led the league the NBA in steals last year, a nigga has to play some D to achieve some shit like that

 

[Peezy_Jenkins]

Watch the Dubs vs Wizards game tonight. Let's see how often Curry guards John Wall.

That is if coach decides against the smart route of putting the best perimeter defender on the best perimeter player of the opposition

 

[bless the child]

Only reason niggaz say Steph is dominant is because he's the best player on the best team. They only reason he has the freedom to play the way he does is because he has good players around him that keeps teams for loading their defenses up against him. He is dominate but I wouldn't say in the same regard that Shaq was during his hey dad, or MJ or guya like that. They were getting buckets through double and triple teams. Steph doesn't. Don't lie and say he does it. Guarantee you if he was on a worse team he would not be as dominant. He would still get buckets of course cuz he can shoot the lights out. But watch how he gets his points. He ain't just coming through and breaking two and three players down to get buckets. He gets a lot of buckets off of open shots, screens and getting open on broken plays. He ain't on MJ, Kobe, Shaq, or even Lebron's level when it comes to dominance. We've seen all of these dudes get buckets with defenses loaded up to stop them on far worse teams, with wayyyy less help.

We say he's dominant cuz he's dominant b

U have a point on everything else although I don't think "lol not as dominant as mj or Shaq" "he shoots off screens" or "has good teammates" constitutes as a knock on curry

What aspects of the game does he dominate? How many different facets of the game does he dominate?

3 point shooting

Handles

What else?

3 pts shooting is enough, he's a great scorer as well and good playmaker and above avg position rebounder, nobodies gonna be dominant in every category, he's not a transcendent like shaq mj or LeBron but he is great

@ the bolded? No 3 point shooting is not enough. Dominant players dominate at more than one thing. He's an excellent shooter and above average ball handler. After that he does nothing above average.

Word. The nigga will have the occasional game where he rebounds good, or his passing is next level, but most nights, it's just the 3.

Dude avg 5 rebounds that's above avg for a pg, and isn't the only playmaker on the team but still is great at making them, cut it out acting like this dude would b 30 year old Kevin Martin on another team

Nah, he would be more like Michael Redd or Ray Allen. Great players but they ain't MJ. They ain't Kobe. They ain't Shaq. They ain't LeBron. Im just saying niggaz tryna talk like Curry is up there with the guys I mentioned but he just aint.

 

[Los216]

I came in here and the first thing I see is "Curry is Shaq dominant"

How did you stop Shaq? Exploit him on Defense to get him in foul trouble and hack his ass...

How do you stop Curry? Be physical with him? Teams tried it, it didn't work.. Make him "play D"? PGs have tried and it didn't work... The only thing that stops Curry is if he has a rare off night..

Curry is the opposite of Shaq in every way, but just as dominant... And Curry is currently doing more with less than Shaq ever did, how many HOF players and GOAT role players did Shaq play with? Is Curry even playing with another HOF player right now?

If/When Curry wins another MVP/Title he would have more MVPs than Shaq and half the rings and the same amount of rings as Lebron (who had more stacked teams) and half the MVPs, let that sink in...

My nigga........?

Did you just say that Curry is just as dominant as Shaq and at the same time talk about exploiting Shaqs defense (like Curry plays defense)

Curry led the league the NBA in steals last year, a nigga has to play some D to achieve some shit like that

Kawhi Leonard led the league in steals last year. Steph finished 4th. You said a nigga has to play some D to achieve some shit like that right? You know who finished 5th?

James Harden

 

[its....JOHN B]

I agree let his career play out first before we put him in the top 50 let alone 25, but to credit his teammates for his success is some of the dumbest shit I ever read, mutha fucka Curry elevates every player on that team, not one player on that team is a true number 1 anywhere else, Draymond Green is a former 2nd round pick who wouldn't get anywhere close to an all star team in any other situation, Klay is in a perfect situation and wouldn't be nearly as efficient anywhere else, he's not doing it with future all time greats, Bron had to join Wade and Bosh to finally overcome that hump, Shaq had Kobe, Bird had Mchale and Parrish, Magic had Worthy and Kareem, etc.. nobody does it alone but Curry really ain't doing it with any other future top 50 to 75 players and he got the Warriors flirting with history, instead of even bringing up physically dominating players like Shaq and Bron and try to compare him let's keep it at point guards, outside of Magic which it's not even close yet and Isiah has there ever been a point guard this dominate?