The Official 2015-16 NBA Thread

[Tommy bilfiger]

Curry has more than 1 triple double, is an avg not ass defender and shooting wise only Nash Ray and/or Reggie could fuck with him

He's an ass defender. He never guards the PG on the other team.

Curry defense is decent but I agree with the bolded he does to start games and it usually doesn't go well,rose destroyed curry(2016 Rose at that) people be capin so much they can't be objective.

 

[Peezy_Jenkins]

He doesn't guard the PG on the other team but that doesn't make him ass, I got into this last night with a homie saying cp3 always guards the PG, well duh cp3 is a better defender, as a coach I think it'd b common sense to put the better defender(klay) on most pgs, that's doesn't mean curry not decent or avg lol @ couldn't guard delle

 

[Peezy_Jenkins]

Curry has more than 1 triple double, is an avg not ass defender and shooting wise only Nash Ray and/or Reggie could fuck with him

He's an ass defender. He never guards the PG on the other team. Klay does that. He couldn't guard Delly in the finals. I get the whole well he could maybe one day be as good as the players the ranked him above but he's halfway done with his career. He's already had two injury plagued seasons. Statistically he would have to average better numbers than he currently is for at least another 10 years to even compare with any of the greats.

That's assuming he's not gonna fall of in 10 years when he's 38 years old. Do you realize that Steph is only 3 years younger than Lebron and he's 5 years older than Kyrie, Anthony Davis.

So curry has to avg better than 30, 5 and 5 with more than 270 3s a year for at LEAST ten years to EVEN BE CONSIDERED GREAT?

 

[Los216]

Curry has more than 1 triple double, is an avg not ass defender and shooting wise only Nash Ray and/or Reggie could fuck with him

He's an ass defender. He never guards the PG on the other team. Klay does that. He couldn't guard Delly in the finals. I get the whole well he could maybe one day be as good as the players the ranked him above but he's halfway done with his career. He's already had two injury plagued seasons. Statistically he would have to average better numbers than he currently is for at least another 10 years to even compare with any of the greats.

That's assuming he's not gonna fall of in 10 years when he's 38 years old. Do you realize that Steph is only 3 years younger than Lebron and he's 5 years older than Kyrie, Anthony Davis.

So curry has to avg better than 30, 5 and 5 with more than 270 3s a year for at LEAST ten years to EVEN BE CONSIDERED GREAT?

I'm talking about from a statistical standpoint. His numbers are not even top 100 al things considered. The only statistics he has a shot at being great at is 3 point shooting. maybe Ft shooting as well. His career numbers are pedestrian. The only way you can make a case for him being ranked that high with those career numbers would be if he has multiple championships. He has 1 and he was the 3rd best player in that championship series.

He'd not a dominant player.

 

[playmaker88]

Ok now you are being stupid hes not a dominant player foh

 

[Los216]

Ok now you are being stupid hes not a dominant player foh

No he's not. He plays on a dominant team. Lebron, Kobe, KG, Wade, Pierce those guys are dominant. Any 5 of those guys in their prime could take the current Lakers or 76ers team to the playoffs this season. Can Curry do that? Can Curry be n a team where he's the only All Star and lead them to the playoffs?

You know the answer to that is no. Can Curry take the that Cavs team Lebron beat the Pistons with on '07 to the finals? Could he have taken any of the KG T'Wolves teams to the playoffs. Remember those Celtics teams pre KG and Ray? Throw Curry on one of them squads and they probably don't even make the playoffs. At no point in his career has Curry been an above average defender. He's a one dimensional player on a really good team.

 

[blu197]

Pierce in his Prime can't take this 76ers team to the playoffs, neither can KG who missed the playoffs 4 years in a row before going to Boston, and Wade? Nigga please... Nigga you dumb as shit..

 

[bless the child]

Only reason niggaz say Steph is dominant is because he's the best player on the best team. They only reason he has the freedom to play the way he does is because he has good players around him that keeps teams for loading their defenses up against him. He is dominate but I wouldn't say in the same regard that Shaq was during his hey day, or MJ or guys like that. They were getting buckets through double and triple teams. Steph doesn't. Don't lie and say he does it. Guarantee you if he was on a worse team he would not be as dominant. He would still get buckets of course cuz he can shoot the lights out. But watch how he gets his points. He ain't just coming through and breaking two and three players down to get buckets. He gets a lot of buckets off of open shots, screens and getting open on broken plays. He ain't on MJ, Kobe, Shaq, or even Lebron's level when it comes to dominance. We've seen all of these dudes get buckets with defenses loaded up to stop them on far worse teams, with wayyyy less help.

 

[yroholla]

I dont necessarily agree with the Espn lists but niggas gotta stop taking credit away from niggas cause they teammates show up. Curry has to average 30,10,10 before niggas give him his proper respect and thats bullshit.

Theres niggas out here padding stats yet they get called a better overall player cause their numbers say so and thats bullshit too.

I wouldnt call Curry 23rd all time but hes the best right now and carved his own lane. Let him cook

 

[Peezy_Jenkins]

Curry has more than 1 triple double, is an avg not ass defender and shooting wise only Nash Ray and/or Reggie could fuck with him

He's an ass defender. He never guards the PG on the other team. Klay does that. He couldn't guard Delly in the finals. I get the whole well he could maybe one day be as good as the players the ranked him above but he's halfway done with his career. He's already had two injury plagued seasons. Statistically he would have to average better numbers than he currently is for at least another 10 years to even compare with any of the greats.

That's assuming he's not gonna fall of in 10 years when he's 38 years old. Do you realize that Steph is only 3 years younger than Lebron and he's 5 years older than Kyrie, Anthony Davis.

So curry has to avg better than 30, 5 and 5 with more than 270 3s a year for at LEAST ten years to EVEN BE CONSIDERED GREAT?

I'm talking about from a statistical standpoint. His numbers are not even top 100 al things considered. The only statistics he has a shot at being great at is 3 point shooting. maybe Ft shooting as well. His career numbers are pedestrian. The only way you can make a case for him being ranked that high with those career numbers would be if he has multiple championships. He has 1 and he was the 3rd best player in that championship series.

He'd not a dominant player.

Idk y ur acting as if espn said that's where he ranks now that he's retired, he's only been playing 6 years so clearly it's based on potential with him still getting better, not even gonna acknowledge the rest of this, lol @ not dominant

 

[Los216]

Only reason niggaz say Steph is dominant is because he's the best player on the best team. They only reason he has the freedom to play the way he does is because he has good players around him that keeps teams for loading their defenses up against him. He is dominate but I wouldn't say in the same regard that Shaq was during his hey dad, or MJ or guya like that. They were getting buckets through double and triple teams. Steph doesn't. Don't lie and say he does it. Guarantee you if he was on a worse team he would not be as dominant. He would still get buckets of course cuz he can shoot the lights out. But watch how he gets his points. He ain't just coming through and breaking two and three players down to get buckets. He gets a lot of buckets off of open shots, screens and getting open on broken plays. He ain't on MJ, Kobe, Shaq, or even Lebron's level when it comes to dominance. We've seen all of these dudes get buckets with defenses loaded up to stop them on far worse teams, with wayyyy less help.

Pierce in his Prime can't take this 76ers team to the playoffs, neither can KG who missed the playoffs 4 years in a row before going to Boston, and Wade? Nigga please... Nigga you dumb as shit..

@blu197 so can Curry take them to the playoffs? And did you watch basketball pre 2009. KG was a league MVP of a team who's next best players were a washed Sprewell and Sam Cassell. Go look at those roster of the pre KG, Ray Allen Celtics teams. Who was Pierce best teammate? Antoine Walker maybe? Nigga Wade took the Heat to the playoffs the year before Shaq. Those are a few examples of dominant players.

I'm talking bout the leaders of the team. Curry is not the leader of the Warriors. It's Draymond. And after that it's probably Iggy. I'm talking bout players who lead their team in multiple categories pts, rbs, ast, stl, and still guard the best player on the opposing team. When Sota play the Spurs in the playoffs KG is guarding Duncan. When the Celtics play the Cavs Pierce is on Lebron. When the Warriors play the Clippers Steph Curry not guarding CP3. He guarding JJ Reddick. He's not guarding Westbrook bruh. He gone hide on Andre Robertson. That's not a dominant player. That's a guy that's a product of a dominant team.

 

[Peezy_Jenkins]

Only reason niggaz say Steph is dominant is because he's the best player on the best team. They only reason he has the freedom to play the way he does is because he has good players around him that keeps teams for loading their defenses up against him. He is dominate but I wouldn't say in the same regard that Shaq was during his hey dad, or MJ or guya like that. They were getting buckets through double and triple teams. Steph doesn't. Don't lie and say he does it. Guarantee you if he was on a worse team he would not be as dominant. He would still get buckets of course cuz he can shoot the lights out. But watch how he gets his points. He ain't just coming through and breaking two and three players down to get buckets. He gets a lot of buckets off of open shots, screens and getting open on broken plays. He ain't on MJ, Kobe, Shaq, or even Lebron's level when it comes to dominance. We've seen all of these dudes get buckets with defenses loaded up to stop them on far worse teams, with wayyyy less help.

We say he's dominant cuz he's dominant b

U have a point on everything else although I don't think "lol not as dominant as mj or Shaq" "he shoots off screens" or "has good teammates" constitutes as a knock on curry

 

[Peezy_Jenkins]

I'll never forget one of the dumbest things I ever read on social media during the last finals, a nigga really said "bruh, LeBron only takes open shots he's not a great player"

 

[Los216]

Only reason niggaz say Steph is dominant is because he's the best player on the best team. They only reason he has the freedom to play the way he does is because he has good players around him that keeps teams for loading their defenses up against him. He is dominate but I wouldn't say in the same regard that Shaq was during his hey dad, or MJ or guya like that. They were getting buckets through double and triple teams. Steph doesn't. Don't lie and say he does it. Guarantee you if he was on a worse team he would not be as dominant. He would still get buckets of course cuz he can shoot the lights out. But watch how he gets his points. He ain't just coming through and breaking two and three players down to get buckets. He gets a lot of buckets off of open shots, screens and getting open on broken plays. He ain't on MJ, Kobe, Shaq, or even Lebron's level when it comes to dominance. We've seen all of these dudes get buckets with defenses loaded up to stop them on far worse teams, with wayyyy less help.

We say he's dominant cuz he's dominant b

U have a point on everything else although I don't think "lol not as dominant as mj or Shaq" "he shoots off screens" or "has good teammates" constitutes as a knock on curry

What aspects of the game does he dominate? How many different facets of the game does he dominate?

3 point shooting

Handles

What else?

 

[Peezy_Jenkins]

Only reason niggaz say Steph is dominant is because he's the best player on the best team. They only reason he has the freedom to play the way he does is because he has good players around him that keeps teams for loading their defenses up against him. He is dominate but I wouldn't say in the same regard that Shaq was during his hey dad, or MJ or guya like that. They were getting buckets through double and triple teams. Steph doesn't. Don't lie and say he does it. Guarantee you if he was on a worse team he would not be as dominant. He would still get buckets of course cuz he can shoot the lights out. But watch how he gets his points. He ain't just coming through and breaking two and three players down to get buckets. He gets a lot of buckets off of open shots, screens and getting open on broken plays. He ain't on MJ, Kobe, Shaq, or even Lebron's level when it comes to dominance. We've seen all of these dudes get buckets with defenses loaded up to stop them on far worse teams, with wayyyy less help.

Pierce in his Prime can't take this 76ers team to the playoffs, neither can KG who missed the playoffs 4 years in a row before going to Boston, and Wade? Nigga please... Nigga you dumb as shit..

@blu197 so can Curry take them to the playoffs? And did you watch basketball pre 2009. KG was a league MVP of a team who's next best players were a washed Sprewell and Sam Cassell. Go look at those roster of the pre KG, Ray Allen Celtics teams. Who was Pierce best teammate? Antoine Walker maybe? Nigga Wade took the Heat to the playoffs the year before Shaq. Those are a few examples of dominant players.

I'm talking bout the leaders of the team. Curry is not the leader of the Warriors. It's Draymond. And after that it's probably Iggy. I'm talking bout players who lead their team in multiple categories pts, rbs, ast, stl, and still guard the best player on the opposing team. When Sota play the Spurs in the playoffs KG is guarding Duncan. When the Celtics play the Cavs Pierce is on Lebron. When the Warriors play the Clippers Steph Curry not guarding CP3. He guarding JJ Reddick. He's not guarding Westbrook bruh. He gone hide on Andre Robertson. That's not a dominant player. That's a guy that's a product of a dominant team.

Spreewell and cassell weren't washed wtf?

And pierce could barely take the Celtics to the playoffs how he taking this year's Lakers or 76ers

Bruh stop

 

[blu197]

Curry is Shaq dominant, he's the other side of the coin with dominanting from the perimeter instead of the paint, we've had about 50 games the last 2 years where he sat out the entire 4th quarter with 30/40+ pt games.. He's the best floor spreader the game of Basketball has ever seen.. Take Curry off GS and they're a 1st exit at best and it hurts me to say that because Klay is my nigga and favorite on the team...

And you're blind if you think teams don't double or trap Curry, how do you think Dray, Barnes and Iggy are always open in the corner or top of the key? Curry is on his way to his 2nd MVP and having the best PER since Wilt in '67.. But he aint dominate though, FOH...

 

[Los216]

Only reason niggaz say Steph is dominant is because he's the best player on the best team. They only reason he has the freedom to play the way he does is because he has good players around him that keeps teams for loading their defenses up against him. He is dominate but I wouldn't say in the same regard that Shaq was during his hey dad, or MJ or guya like that. They were getting buckets through double and triple teams. Steph doesn't. Don't lie and say he does it. Guarantee you if he was on a worse team he would not be as dominant. He would still get buckets of course cuz he can shoot the lights out. But watch how he gets his points. He ain't just coming through and breaking two and three players down to get buckets. He gets a lot of buckets off of open shots, screens and getting open on broken plays. He ain't on MJ, Kobe, Shaq, or even Lebron's level when it comes to dominance. We've seen all of these dudes get buckets with defenses loaded up to stop them on far worse teams, with wayyyy less help.

Pierce in his Prime can't take this 76ers team to the playoffs, neither can KG who missed the playoffs 4 years in a row before going to Boston, and Wade? Nigga please... Nigga you dumb as shit..

@blu197 so can Curry take them to the playoffs? And did you watch basketball pre 2009. KG was a league MVP of a team who's next best players were a washed Sprewell and Sam Cassell. Go look at those roster of the pre KG, Ray Allen Celtics teams. Who was Pierce best teammate? Antoine Walker maybe? Nigga Wade took the Heat to the playoffs the year before Shaq. Those are a few examples of dominant players.

I'm talking bout the leaders of the team. Curry is not the leader of the Warriors. It's Draymond. And after that it's probably Iggy. I'm talking bout players who lead their team in multiple categories pts, rbs, ast, stl, and still guard the best player on the opposing team. When Sota play the Spurs in the playoffs KG is guarding Duncan. When the Celtics play the Cavs Pierce is on Lebron. When the Warriors play the Clippers Steph Curry not guarding CP3. He guarding JJ Reddick. He's not guarding Westbrook bruh. He gone hide on Andre Robertson. That's not a dominant player. That's a guy that's a product of a dominant team.

Spreewell and cassell weren't washed wtf?

And pierce could barely take the Celtics to the playoffs how he taking this year's Lakers or 76ers

Bruh stop

Can Curry take them to the playoffs this year?

 

[Peezy_Jenkins]

Only reason niggaz say Steph is dominant is because he's the best player on the best team. They only reason he has the freedom to play the way he does is because he has good players around him that keeps teams for loading their defenses up against him. He is dominate but I wouldn't say in the same regard that Shaq was during his hey dad, or MJ or guya like that. They were getting buckets through double and triple teams. Steph doesn't. Don't lie and say he does it. Guarantee you if he was on a worse team he would not be as dominant. He would still get buckets of course cuz he can shoot the lights out. But watch how he gets his points. He ain't just coming through and breaking two and three players down to get buckets. He gets a lot of buckets off of open shots, screens and getting open on broken plays. He ain't on MJ, Kobe, Shaq, or even Lebron's level when it comes to dominance. We've seen all of these dudes get buckets with defenses loaded up to stop them on far worse teams, with wayyyy less help.

We say he's dominant cuz he's dominant b

U have a point on everything else although I don't think "lol not as dominant as mj or Shaq" "he shoots off screens" or "has good teammates" constitutes as a knock on curry

What aspects of the game does he dominate? How many different facets of the game does he dominate?

3 point shooting

Handles

What else?

3 pts shooting is enough, he's a great scorer as well and good playmaker and above avg position rebounder, nobodies gonna be dominant in every category, he's not a transcendent like shaq mj or LeBron but he is great , and knocking him for guarding Roberson when any coach with sense would put their teams best defender on Westbrook is ridiculous, klay better on d and has more size, I wouldn't care how good steph is on d, I'd try that

 

[Peezy_Jenkins]

Only reason niggaz say Steph is dominant is because he's the best player on the best team. They only reason he has the freedom to play the way he does is because he has good players around him that keeps teams for loading their defenses up against him. He is dominate but I wouldn't say in the same regard that Shaq was during his hey dad, or MJ or guya like that. They were getting buckets through double and triple teams. Steph doesn't. Don't lie and say he does it. Guarantee you if he was on a worse team he would not be as dominant. He would still get buckets of course cuz he can shoot the lights out. But watch how he gets his points. He ain't just coming through and breaking two and three players down to get buckets. He gets a lot of buckets off of open shots, screens and getting open on broken plays. He ain't on MJ, Kobe, Shaq, or even Lebron's level when it comes to dominance. We've seen all of these dudes get buckets with defenses loaded up to stop them on far worse teams, with wayyyy less help.

Pierce in his Prime can't take this 76ers team to the playoffs, neither can KG who missed the playoffs 4 years in a row before going to Boston, and Wade? Nigga please... Nigga you dumb as shit..

@blu197 so can Curry take them to the playoffs? And did you watch basketball pre 2009. KG was a league MVP of a team who's next best players were a washed Sprewell and Sam Cassell. Go look at those roster of the pre KG, Ray Allen Celtics teams. Who was Pierce best teammate? Antoine Walker maybe? Nigga Wade took the Heat to the playoffs the year before Shaq. Those are a few examples of dominant players.

I'm talking bout the leaders of the team. Curry is not the leader of the Warriors. It's Draymond. And after that it's probably Iggy. I'm talking bout players who lead their team in multiple categories pts, rbs, ast, stl, and still guard the best player on the opposing team. When Sota play the Spurs in the playoffs KG is guarding Duncan. When the Celtics play the Cavs Pierce is on Lebron. When the Warriors play the Clippers Steph Curry not guarding CP3. He guarding JJ Reddick. He's not guarding Westbrook bruh. He gone hide on Andre Robertson. That's not a dominant player. That's a guy that's a product of a dominant team.

Spreewell and cassell weren't washed wtf?

And pierce could barely take the Celtics to the playoffs how he taking this year's Lakers or 76ers

Bruh stop

Can Curry take them to the playoffs this year?

Nigga nobody can wtf is u talm bout lmao

 

[bless the child]

Only reason niggaz say Steph is dominant is because he's the best player on the best team. They only reason he has the freedom to play the way he does is because he has good players around him that keeps teams for loading their defenses up against him. He is dominate but I wouldn't say in the same regard that Shaq was during his hey dad, or MJ or guya like that. They were getting buckets through double and triple teams. Steph doesn't. Don't lie and say he does it. Guarantee you if he was on a worse team he would not be as dominant. He would still get buckets of course cuz he can shoot the lights out. But watch how he gets his points. He ain't just coming through and breaking two and three players down to get buckets. He gets a lot of buckets off of open shots, screens and getting open on broken plays. He ain't on MJ, Kobe, Shaq, or even Lebron's level when it comes to dominance. We've seen all of these dudes get buckets with defenses loaded up to stop them on far worse teams, with wayyyy less help.

We say he's dominant cuz he's dominant b

U have a point on everything else although I don't think "lol not as dominant as mj or Shaq" "he shoots off screens" or "has good teammates" constitutes as a knock on curry

It aint a knock on him, it is what it is. It ain't Curry's fault GS built a team around him to get the best out of him. Its clearly working but, we can't try and act like it's all based on what he is capable of individually. He's in a good situation but he wouldn't be the same player in a worse situation. We've seen Kobe average 35 with garbage teammates and defenses doubling and tripling him. We've seen MJ average 38 with mediocre teammates and double teams and triple teams We saw LeBron average 30, 7 and 8 with trash teammates. When Curry had ass teammates he wasn't even close to touching that lol. He is a great player B. We all agree with that, but he just ain't up there with the top dogs right now.