The Official 2014-15 NBA Thread

[coop9889]

And also lol @ how all these niggas like "i knew GS being shooters wouldn't work "i knew they were too young/inexperienced" "i knew all the flash wouldn't work"

Yall niggas LYING

Wont nobody preaching that golden state would be struggling before game 1. Now yall acting like this was the obvious result and you knew it all along

i picked the cavs. before game 1.

and it aint hard if you actually watch and understand bball to not be surprise about what is transpiring. Being young inexperience has always been a factor in any team sport don't matter what level you are at. It takes more than just being in the finals., all this ish is learned. Lebron had to learn going against the spurs, n the mavs,. Dirk, Kobe, Wade etc. If you watch enough basketball also you would know, no team is gonna win anyone's championship just shooting jump shots...

now this series is not over by a long shot, but if you understand the game of basketball it ain't hard to understand what is going on right now.

Your argument would have merit, if it didnt work both ways...

Delledova, Shump, JR, Tristan, Mosgov... please let me know how much experience they have deep in the playoffs...

Im not saying AFTER WATCHING the 3 games its hard to see what is happening, but if you were gonna say the cavs were gonna win the series because of EXPERIENCE then that's a dumb argument, cuz it's only Lebron with any,

This comes down to one thing - people vastly underestimated Lebron and the impact he can have individually and by elevating the play of his entire team. That is what greats do. If you couldnt see that, then that's on you.

I picked GS in a long series - but I did so with hesitation because of the dude standing on the other sideline.

This is true. Vastly underestimated... but with good reason. It's unprecedented for someone to win the finals as the only all-star caliber person on their team against the best team in the league.

Yes and No.

If you have been watching him play his whole career, objectively, you knew this type of dominance was a possibility.

He's literally averaging OVER 48 minutes per game and will possibly average a triple double including ~40 points. That's unprecedented. No one is calling that type of performance.

You are right. No one predicted this statistical performance.

But if you thought it impossible that he could will his team to a victory (regardless of how the numbers played out), then you underestimated his greatness. He is an All Timer.

I don't believe in "willing your team to victory" That's some espn bullshit

You can draw attention off your shooters, guard the other team's best player, pass your teammates open etc... That's good playmaking and just being great overall. But when niggas say "willing his team to victory" that sounds like BS. Like he wants a ring more than other people so they play harder or some shit. I don't buy that.

You been watching these games? How many times have you seen Mike Miller, Delly and fuckin James Jones hit the ground for 50/50 balls in the past? Probably never. And how many times did GS players hit the deck for a loose ball before the Cavs' players? I don't think even once.

The Cavs do want it more, and it could be suggested it's that way because LeBron wants it more. Hell, Iggy himself said they need to start playing like every possession was their last. The Cavs been playing like that. Kobe cosigned the theory as well. It's not far-fetched like you seem to believe.

So in LeBron's finals matchup against the Mavs, tell me why LeBron wouldn't have equal or MORE determination than this championship?

He was already labeled a "choker", hadn't even gotten his first ring (first is always most important), pressure on him to perform etc...

Why was it not the same shit happening in that series? According to yall the heat should've been playing like they wanted it more because LeBron wanted it more.

Or are you saying he didn't "want a ring" as much in his finals losses as opposed to his wins?

Stupid theory and impossible to prove.

 

[1CK1S]

https://youtu.be/ZOw95bLv1dQ

b-tch ain't even attractive..

 

[Angeles1son85]

I was just thinkin did bron ban dan gilbert from arena or cam time on tv i aint seen.him yet lol

 

[coop9889]

I was just thinkin did bron ban dan gilbert from arena or cam time on tv i aint seen.him yet lol

That would be ether if that was a prerequisite for Lebron coming back. That's some shit I would do.

"Ill come back, but for that stupid shit you said, I don't want you in the building at all for the playoffs"

Dan would have to agree

 

[jamiefoxxhairline]

Hope this goes 7..every game been close/entertaining at the end

 

[jamiefoxxhairline]

Cs Nike >>>

]

 

[A$AP_A$TON]

I knew GS had a high cornball fan base when they was playing Memphis and they booed Tony Allen the rest of the game after he was still on the court during those kids half time performance.

I'm like these niggas can't be serious.

 

[NoCanadiansEH]

https://youtu.be/ZOw95bLv1dQ

b-tch ain't even attractive..

(from boxden) what a coincidence...

 

[A$AP_A$TON]

Rushed in here to say are yall watching Sports Center? They was outside the Q, showing these two girls taking a pic and one of these bunnies had a fat ol ass. Camera was right up on it.

Shit was plump

 

[iron man1]

I was just thinkin did bron ban dan gilbert from arena or cam time on tv i aint seen.him yet lol

I think they showed him during game 1 onw time real quick but that be hilarious if Bron did that.

 

[S2J]

And also lol @ how all these niggas like "i knew GS being shooters wouldn't work "i knew they were too young/inexperienced" "i knew all the flash wouldn't work"

Yall niggas LYING

Wont nobody preaching that golden state would be struggling before game 1. Now yall acting like this was the obvious result and you knew it all along

i picked the cavs. before game 1.

and it aint hard if you actually watch and understand bball to not be surprise about what is transpiring. Being young inexperience has always been a factor in any team sport don't matter what level you are at. It takes more than just being in the finals., all this ish is learned. Lebron had to learn going against the spurs, n the mavs,. Dirk, Kobe, Wade etc. If you watch enough basketball also you would know, no team is gonna win anyone's championship just shooting jump shots...

now this series is not over by a long shot, but if you understand the game of basketball it ain't hard to understand what is going on right now.

Your argument would have merit, if it didnt work both ways...

Delledova, Shump, JR, Tristan, Mosgov... please let me know how much experience they have deep in the playoffs...

Im not saying AFTER WATCHING the 3 games its hard to see what is happening, but if you were gonna say the cavs were gonna win the series because of EXPERIENCE then that's a dumb argument, cuz it's only Lebron with any,

This comes down to one thing - people vastly underestimated Lebron and the impact he can have individually and by elevating the play of his entire team. That is what greats do. If you couldnt see that, then that's on you.

I picked GS in a long series - but I did so with hesitation because of the dude standing on the other sideline.

This is true. Vastly underestimated... but with good reason. It's unprecedented for someone to win the finals as the only all-star caliber person on their team against the best team in the league.

Yes and No.

If you have been watching him play his whole career, objectively, you knew this type of dominance was a possibility.

He's literally averaging OVER 48 minutes per game and will possibly average a triple double including ~40 points. That's unprecedented. No one is calling that type of performance.

You are right. No one predicted this statistical performance.

But if you thought it impossible that he could will his team to a victory (regardless of how the numbers played out), then you underestimated his greatness. He is an All Timer.

I don't believe in "willing your team to victory" That's some espn bullshit

You can draw attention off your shooters, guard the other team's best player, pass your teammates open etc... That's good playmaking and just being great overall. But when niggas say "willing his team to victory" that sounds like BS. Like he wants a ring more than other people so they play harder or some shit. I don't buy that.

You been watching these games? How many times have you seen Mike Miller, Delly and fuckin James Jones hit the ground for 50/50 balls in the past? Probably never. And how many times did GS players hit the deck for a loose ball before the Cavs' players? I don't think even once.

The Cavs do want it more, and it could be suggested it's that way because LeBron wants it more. Hell, Iggy himself said they need to start playing like every possession was their last. The Cavs been playing like that. Kobe cosigned the theory as well. It's not far-fetched like you seem to believe.

So in LeBron's finals matchup against the Mavs, tell me why LeBron wouldn't have equal or MORE determination than this championship?

He was already labeled a "choker", hadn't even gotten his first ring (first is always most important), pressure on him to perform etc...

Why was it not the same shit happening in that series? According to yall the heat should've been playing like they wanted it more because LeBron wanted it more.

Or are you saying he didn't "want a ring" as much in his finals losses as opposed to his wins?

Stupid theory and impossible to prove.

You brought up the exact example i was to PROVE wanting it more

1 word: fear

Fear makes you hesitant, fear makes you think, fear limits you

On the flip, there's desperation.

If player A fears fuking up (Bron vs Dallas, Steph taking 6 shots thru 3 quarters ), but player B fears he may never play again (desperation, in this case LeBron weighing going 2/6 in the Finals) he WANTS IT MORE

Wanting it more is reaching the point of exceeding your fears. And sometimes it takes getting close and/or losing in crushing fashion to realize how to overcome fear. Which, again, some including me said GS hadnt come close to facing. Similar to OKC vs Miami

Damn ngga got me sounding like Batman n shit but yea it is real. When talent is at least comparable

 

[King Lee]

The Nike Jerseys have always been dope good to see them making a return, were ya'll a fan of the adidas jerseys? personally I thought they were fresh and looked classic

 

[S2J]

Cs Nike >>>

]

Funny how everything magically looks better when its in 'collectible' status

Those Pistons jerseys were literally WOAT. WNBA shit. Rockets and Raps joints looked cartoonish.

 

[coop9889]

And also lol @ how all these niggas like "i knew GS being shooters wouldn't work "i knew they were too young/inexperienced" "i knew all the flash wouldn't work"

Yall niggas LYING

Wont nobody preaching that golden state would be struggling before game 1. Now yall acting like this was the obvious result and you knew it all along

i picked the cavs. before game 1.

and it aint hard if you actually watch and understand bball to not be surprise about what is transpiring. Being young inexperience has always been a factor in any team sport don't matter what level you are at. It takes more than just being in the finals., all this ish is learned. Lebron had to learn going against the spurs, n the mavs,. Dirk, Kobe, Wade etc. If you watch enough basketball also you would know, no team is gonna win anyone's championship just shooting jump shots...

now this series is not over by a long shot, but if you understand the game of basketball it ain't hard to understand what is going on right now.

Your argument would have merit, if it didnt work both ways...

Delledova, Shump, JR, Tristan, Mosgov... please let me know how much experience they have deep in the playoffs...

Im not saying AFTER WATCHING the 3 games its hard to see what is happening, but if you were gonna say the cavs were gonna win the series because of EXPERIENCE then that's a dumb argument, cuz it's only Lebron with any,

This comes down to one thing - people vastly underestimated Lebron and the impact he can have individually and by elevating the play of his entire team. That is what greats do. If you couldnt see that, then that's on you.

I picked GS in a long series - but I did so with hesitation because of the dude standing on the other sideline.

This is true. Vastly underestimated... but with good reason. It's unprecedented for someone to win the finals as the only all-star caliber person on their team against the best team in the league.

Yes and No.

If you have been watching him play his whole career, objectively, you knew this type of dominance was a possibility.

He's literally averaging OVER 48 minutes per game and will possibly average a triple double including ~40 points. That's unprecedented. No one is calling that type of performance.

You are right. No one predicted this statistical performance.

But if you thought it impossible that he could will his team to a victory (regardless of how the numbers played out), then you underestimated his greatness. He is an All Timer.

I don't believe in "willing your team to victory" That's some espn bullshit

You can draw attention off your shooters, guard the other team's best player, pass your teammates open etc... That's good playmaking and just being great overall. But when niggas say "willing his team to victory" that sounds like BS. Like he wants a ring more than other people so they play harder or some shit. I don't buy that.

You been watching these games? How many times have you seen Mike Miller, Delly and fuckin James Jones hit the ground for 50/50 balls in the past? Probably never. And how many times did GS players hit the deck for a loose ball before the Cavs' players? I don't think even once.

The Cavs do want it more, and it could be suggested it's that way because LeBron wants it more. Hell, Iggy himself said they need to start playing like every possession was their last. The Cavs been playing like that. Kobe cosigned the theory as well. It's not far-fetched like you seem to believe.

So in LeBron's finals matchup against the Mavs, tell me why LeBron wouldn't have equal or MORE determination than this championship?

He was already labeled a "choker", hadn't even gotten his first ring (first is always most important), pressure on him to perform etc...

Why was it not the same shit happening in that series? According to yall the heat should've been playing like they wanted it more because LeBron wanted it more.

Or are you saying he didn't "want a ring" as much in his finals losses as opposed to his wins?

Stupid theory and impossible to prove.

You brought up the exact example i was to PROVE wanting it more

1 word: fear

Fear makes you hesitant, fear makes you think, fear limits you

On the flip, there's desperation.

If player A fears fuking up (Bron vs Dallas, Steph taking 6 shots thru 3 quarters ), but player B fears he may never play again (desperation, in this case LeBron weighing going 2/6 in the Finals) he WANTS IT MORE

Wanting it more is reaching the point of exceeding your fears. And sometimes it takes getting close and/or losing in crushing fashion to realize how to overcome fear. Which, again, some including me said GS hadnt come close to facing. Similar to OKC vs Miami

Damn ngga got me sounding like Batman n shit but yea it is real. When talent is at least comparable

I see what theory you are trying to go with, but I'm not buying it.

Because we don't know these niggas personally and aren't capable of reading their minds, everything dealing with emotional and mental aspects are assumptions. That's inarguable.

So with that being said, how can you prove that a player who fears going 2/6 in the finals "wants it more" than a player who "fears fucking up"? And how can you even think 'fearing you may never play again' is the same thing as going 2/6 in finals. That's not even remotely close to the same thing. The Cavs gonna be the East favorites again next year.

Another note... how can you sit here and try to tell me what player a fears, or what mental hump player b has to get over. HOW DO YOU KNOW

YOU AINT GOT THE ANSWERS SWAY

 

[MR.CJ]

https://twitter.com/MagicJohnson/status/608761248830906368

 

[Peace_79]

And also lol @ how all these niggas like "i knew GS being shooters wouldn't work "i knew they were too young/inexperienced" "i knew all the flash wouldn't work"

Yall niggas LYING

Wont nobody preaching that golden state would be struggling before game 1. Now yall acting like this was the obvious result and you knew it all along

i picked the cavs. before game 1.

and it aint hard if you actually watch and understand bball to not be surprise about what is transpiring. Being young inexperience has always been a factor in any team sport don't matter what level you are at. It takes more than just being in the finals., all this ish is learned. Lebron had to learn going against the spurs, n the mavs,. Dirk, Kobe, Wade etc. If you watch enough basketball also you would know, no team is gonna win anyone's championship just shooting jump shots...

now this series is not over by a long shot, but if you understand the game of basketball it ain't hard to understand what is going on right now.

Your argument would have merit, if it didnt work both ways...

Delledova, Shump, JR, Tristan, Mosgov... please let me know how much experience they have deep in the playoffs...

Im not saying AFTER WATCHING the 3 games its hard to see what is happening, but if you were gonna say the cavs were gonna win the series because of EXPERIENCE then that's a dumb argument, cuz it's only Lebron with any,

This comes down to one thing - people vastly underestimated Lebron and the impact he can have individually and by elevating the play of his entire team. That is what greats do. If you couldnt see that, then that's on you.

I picked GS in a long series - but I did so with hesitation because of the dude standing on the other sideline.

This is true. Vastly underestimated... but with good reason. It's unprecedented for someone to win the finals as the only all-star caliber person on their team against the best team in the league.

Yes and No.

If you have been watching him play his whole career, objectively, you knew this type of dominance was a possibility.

He's literally averaging OVER 48 minutes per game and will possibly average a triple double including ~40 points. That's unprecedented. No one is calling that type of performance.

You are right. No one predicted this statistical performance.

But if you thought it impossible that he could will his team to a victory (regardless of how the numbers played out), then you underestimated his greatness. He is an All Timer.

I don't believe in "willing your team to victory" That's some espn bullshit

You can draw attention off your shooters, guard the other team's best player, pass your teammates open etc... That's good playmaking and just being great overall. But when niggas say "willing his team to victory" that sounds like BS. Like he wants a ring more than other people so they play harder or some shit. I don't buy that.

Lmao. What do you call what is happening?

Use all of your stats and strategies and in depth explanations. At the end of the day- its simple.

He does want it more. For a lot of reasons.

-Who has had more doubters for over a decade?

-Who has been more scrutinized?

-Who in the league has had more failures and disappointments on the biggest stage?

-Who in the league is closer to being compared to the greatest of all time?

-Who was the dude that came home to a city that has been yearning for a championship, literally forever?

But its not only that, he is able to take it - because he is better than everyone else on the floor - really in his era.

So call it what you want. But it wasn't impossible to predict

I already gave examples of what is happening.

But to say "he wants it more" is laughable. Like you know this nigga personally.

The goal for everyone in the nba is to win the championship. You cant say a nigga "wants it more" just cuz he's the best player in the league.

So there is no correlation between will/focus/determination and a player's performance?

So Dellavadova is just better than Curry?

He is performing better.

If your theory were true, then all of these guys would be fucking video game characters - with ratings for each dimension of playing ability. Sports would just be a math problem where the better team statistically would always win.

They are human, b. This is life. Everything that people do is influenced by will, focus, and determination.

Completely missing the point.

How do you define wanting it more? How can you measure that?

Give me an answer to that and you have the potential to start making sense.

Cuz what you talking is basically saying the Warriors DONT want to win this ring. Which is not even reply-worthy.

You are missing the point. You are looking at things like they are black and white.

I am not saying the Dubs don't want to win. I am saying the Cavs want to win MORE.

If you can't see that the Cavs are playing with more effort than the Dubs, I don't know what to tell you.

Yes, Xs and Os, talent, and matchups are a part of it. But so is being willing to sell out everything to win. There is no way to explain the series outcome so far without conceding that as a factor in what has transpired. You could also just watch the games and its obvious.

Of course you can't quantify will. Does that mean it doesn't exist? Or it is absolutely constant among every single person in the league?

Have you not heard of players who were mega talented but didn't reach their potential?

Do you think if Jordan had "Meh" work ethic, he would be the GOAT?

 

[iron man1]

https://twitter.com/MagicJohnson/status/608761248830906368

 

[Peace_79]

 

[coop9889]

And also lol @ how all these niggas like "i knew GS being shooters wouldn't work "i knew they were too young/inexperienced" "i knew all the flash wouldn't work"

Yall niggas LYING

Wont nobody preaching that golden state would be struggling before game 1. Now yall acting like this was the obvious result and you knew it all along

i picked the cavs. before game 1.

and it aint hard if you actually watch and understand bball to not be surprise about what is transpiring. Being young inexperience has always been a factor in any team sport don't matter what level you are at. It takes more than just being in the finals., all this ish is learned. Lebron had to learn going against the spurs, n the mavs,. Dirk, Kobe, Wade etc. If you watch enough basketball also you would know, no team is gonna win anyone's championship just shooting jump shots...

now this series is not over by a long shot, but if you understand the game of basketball it ain't hard to understand what is going on right now.

Your argument would have merit, if it didnt work both ways...

Delledova, Shump, JR, Tristan, Mosgov... please let me know how much experience they have deep in the playoffs...

Im not saying AFTER WATCHING the 3 games its hard to see what is happening, but if you were gonna say the cavs were gonna win the series because of EXPERIENCE then that's a dumb argument, cuz it's only Lebron with any,

This comes down to one thing - people vastly underestimated Lebron and the impact he can have individually and by elevating the play of his entire team. That is what greats do. If you couldnt see that, then that's on you.

I picked GS in a long series - but I did so with hesitation because of the dude standing on the other sideline.

This is true. Vastly underestimated... but with good reason. It's unprecedented for someone to win the finals as the only all-star caliber person on their team against the best team in the league.

Yes and No.

If you have been watching him play his whole career, objectively, you knew this type of dominance was a possibility.

He's literally averaging OVER 48 minutes per game and will possibly average a triple double including ~40 points. That's unprecedented. No one is calling that type of performance.

You are right. No one predicted this statistical performance.

But if you thought it impossible that he could will his team to a victory (regardless of how the numbers played out), then you underestimated his greatness. He is an All Timer.

I don't believe in "willing your team to victory" That's some espn bullshit

You can draw attention off your shooters, guard the other team's best player, pass your teammates open etc... That's good playmaking and just being great overall. But when niggas say "willing his team to victory" that sounds like BS. Like he wants a ring more than other people so they play harder or some shit. I don't buy that.

Lmao. What do you call what is happening?

Use all of your stats and strategies and in depth explanations. At the end of the day- its simple.

He does want it more. For a lot of reasons.

-Who has had more doubters for over a decade?

-Who has been more scrutinized?

-Who in the league has had more failures and disappointments on the biggest stage?

-Who in the league is closer to being compared to the greatest of all time?

-Who was the dude that came home to a city that has been yearning for a championship, literally forever?

But its not only that, he is able to take it - because he is better than everyone else on the floor - really in his era.

So call it what you want. But it wasn't impossible to predict

I already gave examples of what is happening.

But to say "he wants it more" is laughable. Like you know this nigga personally.

The goal for everyone in the nba is to win the championship. You cant say a nigga "wants it more" just cuz he's the best player in the league.

So there is no correlation between will/focus/determination and a player's performance?

So Dellavadova is just better than Curry?

He is performing better.

If your theory were true, then all of these guys would be fucking video game characters - with ratings for each dimension of playing ability. Sports would just be a math problem where the better team statistically would always win.

They are human, b. This is life. Everything that people do is influenced by will, focus, and determination.

Completely missing the point.

How do you define wanting it more? How can you measure that?

Give me an answer to that and you have the potential to start making sense.

Cuz what you talking is basically saying the Warriors DONT want to win this ring. Which is not even reply-worthy.

You are missing the point. You are looking at things like they are black and white.

I am not saying the Dubs don't want to win. I am saying the Cavs want to win MORE.

If you can't see that the Cavs are playing with more effort than the Dubs, I don't know what to tell you.

Yes, Xs and Os, talent, and matchups are a part of it. But so is being willing to sell out everything to win. There is no way to explain the series outcome so far without conceding that as a factor in what has transpired. You could also just watch the games and its obvious.

Of course you can't quantify will. Does that mean it doesn't exist? Or it is absolutely constant among every single person in the league?

Have you not heard of players who were mega talented but didn't reach their potential?

Do you think if Jordan had "Meh" work ethic, he would be the GOAT?

And I'm saying that just because a team is playing with more intensity does not necessarily mean they want to win more. That just means they play with more intensity.

Just because a team is playing with more focus or effort, doesn't mean they want to win more. That just means they are playing with more focus and effort.

Not every player is like delledova where they play 48 minutes of skin tight D. Thats his style. Doesn't mean he's the hardest playing nigga on the court.

Lost in all the delledova and mike miller diving for loose balls is the fact that there were warriors diving for them too.

Clearly game one the Cavs were playing with just as much intensity as the past two games, still lost the game.

I'm not discrediting intensity/focus/will being a factor. I'm arguing against the fact that it means that player wants to win more.

They are not one and the same.

 

[coop9889]

You can count on one hand the amount of niggas in the league who would be playing D on curry with the intensity that delledova is right now. Does that mean they want to win more than anyone else in the league?

FOH