The Official 2011-2012 European Football Thread.

[usmarin3]

anyone saying pele is the best player to ever lace up boots needs to watch his games... numerous people and experts will tell you he wasnt even the best player on his team lol

maradona was much better, and skillful...

peles best known for a miss... hitting the cross bar from the half way line lol

smh @ gb...

anyone saying pele is the best player to ever lace up boots needs to watch his games... numerous people and experts will tell you he wasnt even the best player on his team lol

maradona was much better, and skillful...

peles best known for a miss... hitting the cross bar from the half way line lol

smh @ gb...

The same numerous people who ranked him as the goat soccer player. Ya'll the same niggas who claim Messi is the best, when he clearly ain't the most skilled nigga out there, he ain't more skilled than Neymar. The same Messi who comes up short in World Cup and Copa America play.

What grounds do you have to argue against Pele, nigga got World Cups, statistics, and boots. What, ya'll tryna to deminish his accomplishments because he doesn't have Euro acclaim.

 

[Gooner]

Brazil 5 WC Italy 4WC

Germany 3WC 4x runners up 4x 3rd

those r the best teams ever

 

[Gooner]

TBH Argentina are underachievers somewhat...shud hav more than 2 WC...

 

[water ur seeds]

man pele is fckn overrated!!!!!!!!!! dude never left brazil, how can you judge a player that scores loads of goal in brazil and never played in europe in the best leagues in the world??? he didnt even hardly play in one of the world cups he won... hes is amazing know doubt, but hes not the best ever... maradonna for me, dude ran europe and also done it on the world stage ... pele thinks hes better then he is to...

lol at this Eurocentric nonsense, why would Pele need to leave Brasil when the Brasilian league was world class back then, South American players weren't running to Europe back then. South American national teams got most of the world cup titles (Brasil,Argentina, Uraguay,etc), if Europe is so great why did they get dusted in the world cup so much. During Pele's era, the only European team to win shit was Germany, if Spain, England,etc were so good why did not win world cups?

Yall need to get off this white man/europe fucking nonsense, do you know how many great south american players never sold out and go to europe back then.

lol @ you brining race into this...

europe invented football, its always been the best league in the world! brasilian league has never been world class... the only south americans that never left where zico, pele and garrincha

back in them days italy ran football, all the best players went their and applied their trade, you dont know what the fck your about...

Then why hasn't Italy won the amount of world cups as Brasil, why did they not run shit in Pele's era? I don't give a fuck if Europe invented shit, the most skilled players have come from South America and the two greatest players both came from there (Pele, Maradonna).

Lets not act as if money isn't the major issue with it comes to Euro football verses these other leagues, not skill or ability. Pump the same money, advertisement, and hype into any league that UEFA has and nuture young talent with the money europe has and i guarantee you South American leagues would be on the same level. Also for South American players like Messi, Sergio Aquero, etc to stay in their home country.

Take away all the So. American players from Europe and the game of soccer would look completely different. Money is the only reason why these players leave So. America, not because European leagues are better.

i didnt even read past the first couple lines...

pele had great players around him... winning the world cup dosent mean shit to what im saying... you havnt even watched the old football archives...

pele wasnt even the best player in the brasilian side, the european leagues had the best players in the world in them, spain, italy, germany, brasil, argentina, hence making it the toughest leagues in the world...

you ever had the pleasure of watching cruyff, di stefano, meazza, best, charlton, law, beckenbauer, moore??? god knows how many ive missed...

every football expert will tell you maradona better than pele... im not saying pele is shit, im saying hes not the best ever, hes one of them, know one will know how good he was against the the best teams in the world...

you read about pele and think hes the best player in the world, go do your homework

 

[Gooner]

Messi is way better player than Neymar...Neymar cud turn out better but he needs to prove himself...u confusing skill with flashyness... Messi's ball control is unreal the ball sticks to his boot even at full speed...he will hav more chances to win WC...he has performed in champions league which most ppl will tell u is the best competition in football...ur other points r valid but u look stupid when u try n shit on Messi all because he hasnt played well in internationals...argentina nvr replaced Riquelme thats their biggest problem...also the had an idiot coach in Maradonna

 

[water ur seeds]

anyone saying pele is the best player to ever lace up boots needs to watch his games... numerous people and experts will tell you he wasnt even the best player on his team lol

maradona was much better, and skillful...

peles best known for a miss... hitting the cross bar from the half way line lol

smh @ gb...

anyone saying pele is the best player to ever lace up boots needs to watch his games... numerous people and experts will tell you he wasnt even the best player on his team lol

maradona was much better, and skillful...

peles best known for a miss... hitting the cross bar from the half way line lol

smh @ gb...

The same numerous people who ranked him as the goat soccer player. Ya'll the same niggas who claim Messi is the best, when he clearly ain't the most skilled nigga out there, he ain't more skilled than Neymar. The same Messi who comes up short in World Cup and Copa America play.

What grounds do you have to argue against Pele, nigga got World Cups, statistics, and boots. What, ya'll tryna to deminish his accomplishments because he doesn't have Euro acclaim.

are you serious??? lmao naymar better than messi?

pele got his goals in a sub par league blud, friendlies, 100s of testimonials and in america! you telling me he didnt go to america 'to sell out?' hes not even got the best world cup stats, kolse and muller GERMANS have better records... the og ronaldo, romario, zico and garrincha are all better than him...

 

[dbrazil412]

neymar is not better than messi. is he more athletic maybe? okay.. better...not even close. messi is on another level compared to neymar, and thats taking nothing away from him

 

[water ur seeds]

neymar is not better than messi. is he more athletic maybe? okay.. better...not even close. messi is on another level compared to neymar, and thats taking nothing away from him

and thats coming from a brasilian? lol props on the unbiasness

 

[dbrazil412]

i dont wanna call pele overrated.. i just think he was the first soccer player outside the US to be well known by americans. you can argue his numbers and all that but there are better players in history than him, they're just not as famous (over here)

 

[water ur seeds]

man pele is fckn overrated!!!!!!!!!! dude never left brazil, how can you judge a player that scores loads of goal in brazil and never played in europe in the best leagues in the world??? he didnt even hardly play in one of the world cups he won... hes is amazing know doubt, but hes not the best ever... maradonna for me, dude ran europe and also done it on the world stage ... pele thinks hes better then he is to...

lol at this Eurocentric nonsense, why would Pele need to leave Brasil when the Brasilian league was world class back then, South American players weren't running to Europe back then. South American national teams got most of the world cup titles (Brasil,Argentina, Uraguay,etc), if Europe is so great why did they get dusted in the world cup so much. During Pele's era, the only European team to win shit was Germany, if Spain, England,etc were so good why did not win world cups?

Yall need to get off this white man/europe fucking nonsense, do you know how many great south american players never sold out and go to europe back then.

lol @ you brining race into this...

europe invented football, its always been the best league in the world! brasilian league has never been world class... the only south americans that never left where zico, pele and garrincha

back in them days italy ran football, all the best players went their and applied their trade, you dont know what the fck your about...

Zico did leave for a couple of years. He played for Udinese and Kashima Antlers.

thanks for pointing that out, i didnt realize... never heard of kashima antlers lol... all the best players left to play in spain or italy, rarely england because the weather is so shit lol

 

[dbrazil412]

neymar is not better than messi. is he more athletic maybe? okay.. better...not even close. messi is on another level compared to neymar, and thats taking nothing away from him

and thats coming from a brasilian? lol props on the unbiasness

lol i'm not really from brazil.. just happens to be my last name.. however they are my favorite national soccer team

 

[usmarin3]

man pele is fckn overrated!!!!!!!!!! dude never left brazil, how can you judge a player that scores loads of goal in brazil and never played in europe in the best leagues in the world??? he didnt even hardly play in one of the world cups he won... hes is amazing know doubt, but hes not the best ever... maradonna for me, dude ran europe and also done it on the world stage ... pele thinks hes better then he is to...

lol at this Eurocentric nonsense, why would Pele need to leave Brasil when the Brasilian league was world class back then, South American players weren't running to Europe back then. South American national teams got most of the world cup titles (Brasil,Argentina, Uraguay,etc), if Europe is so great why did they get dusted in the world cup so much. During Pele's era, the only European team to win shit was Germany, if Spain, England,etc were so good why did not win world cups?

Yall need to get off this white man/europe fucking nonsense, do you know how many great south american players never sold out and go to europe back then.

lol @ you brining race into this...

europe invented football, its always been the best league in the world! brasilian league has never been world class... the only south americans that never left where zico, pele and garrincha

back in them days italy ran football, all the best players went their and applied their trade, you dont know what the fck your about...

Then why hasn't Italy won the amount of world cups as Brasil, why did they not run shit in Pele's era? I don't give a fuck if Europe invented shit, the most skilled players have come from South America and the two greatest players both came from there (Pele, Maradonna).

Lets not act as if money isn't the major issue with it comes to Euro football verses these other leagues, not skill or ability. Pump the same money, advertisement, and hype into any league that UEFA has and nuture young talent with the money europe has and i guarantee you South American leagues would be on the same level. Also for South American players like Messi, Sergio Aquero, etc to stay in their home country.

Take away all the So. American players from Europe and the game of soccer would look completely different. Money is the only reason why these players leave So. America, not because European leagues are better.

i didnt even read past the first couple lines...

pele had great players around him... winning the world cup dosent mean shit to what im saying... you havnt even watched the old football archives...

pele wasnt even the best player in the brasilian side, the european leagues had the best players in the world in them, spain, italy, germany, brasil, argentine, hence making it the toughest leagues in the world...

you ever had the pleasure of watching cruyff, di stefano, meazza, best, charlton, law, beckenbauer, moore??? god knows how many ive missed...

every football expert will tell you maradona better than pele... im not saying pele is shit, im saying hes not the best ever, hes one of them, know one will know how good he was against the the best teams in the world...

you read about pele and think hes the best player in the world, go do your homework

LOL at winning a world cup doesn't mean shit, and isn't Messi playing with the most great players around him. Isn't this nigga playing with Iniesta, Xavi,etc, oh wait you only use that excuse when it comes to Pele. Isn't Iniesta more accomplished, La Liga, Euro Cup, and World Cup titles?

Lets call the Euro leagues for what they are, they feed and leech off smaller leagues talent which all goes back to the money issue. It's all a money issue, nothing fucking else.

 

[water ur seeds]

i dont wanna call pele overrated.. i just think he was the first soccer player outside the US to be well known by americans. you can argue his numbers and all that but there are better players in history than him, they're just not as famous (over here)

prolly for the fact he tried to really push football in america with the cosmos, like george best did... i think george best is better than him to, shame his career was so short, had he not fckd himself on booze and actually trained once in a while he would of surpassed him...

 

[usmarin3]

Neymar is more skilled that Messi. What does Messi do, wait for Iniesta and Xavi to set up his left foot, because that's all he has.

Please tell me what has Messi done outside of Iniesta and Xavi, what has this dude done outside of club play.

Atleast we can say Christiano Ronaldo has won in both leagues and excelled in both. I bet money Messi wouldn't put up the number of goals he has in the EPL, no way in hell he would get the referee protection he does in La Liga.

 

[Figo]

since when winning the world cup doesn't mean shit?? seeds you got that construed. the entire England football team will trade in the premiere league medal an champs league for the greatest tournament on earth trophy(world cup). messi have great players around him as well on both Barcelona and Argentina. you coming across real bias homie

 

[Gooner]

yo im making a new thread i'll post the link in here and get mods to sticky it...who r cheapseat mods btw?

 

[water ur seeds]

man pele is fckn overrated!!!!!!!!!! dude never left brazil, how can you judge a player that scores loads of goal in brazil and never played in europe in the best leagues in the world??? he didnt even hardly play in one of the world cups he won... hes is amazing know doubt, but hes not the best ever... maradonna for me, dude ran europe and also done it on the world stage ... pele thinks hes better then he is to...

lol at this Eurocentric nonsense, why would Pele need to leave Brasil when the Brasilian league was world class back then, South American players weren't running to Europe back then. South American national teams got most of the world cup titles (Brasil,Argentina, Uraguay,etc), if Europe is so great why did they get dusted in the world cup so much. During Pele's era, the only European team to win shit was Germany, if Spain, England,etc were so good why did not win world cups?

Yall need to get off this white man/europe fucking nonsense, do you know how many great south american players never sold out and go to europe back then.

lol @ you brining race into this...

europe invented football, its always been the best league in the world! brasilian league has never been world class... the only south americans that never left where zico, pele and garrincha

back in them days italy ran football, all the best players went their and applied their trade, you dont know what the fck your about...

Then why hasn't Italy won the amount of world cups as Brasil, why did they not run shit in Pele's era? I don't give a fuck if Europe invented shit, the most skilled players have come from South America and the two greatest players both came from there (Pele, Maradonna).

Lets not act as if money isn't the major issue with it comes to Euro football verses these other leagues, not skill or ability. Pump the same money, advertisement, and hype into any league that UEFA has and nuture young talent with the money europe has and i guarantee you South American leagues would be on the same level. Also for South American players like Messi, Sergio Aquero, etc to stay in their home country.

Take away all the So. American players from Europe and the game of soccer would look completely different. Money is the only reason why these players leave So. America, not because European leagues are better.

i didnt even read past the first couple lines...

pele had great players around him... winning the world cup dosent mean shit to what im saying... you havnt even watched the old football archives...

pele wasnt even the best player in the brasilian side, the european leagues had the best players in the world in them, spain, italy, germany, brasil, argentine, hence making it the toughest leagues in the world...

you ever had the pleasure of watching cruyff, di stefano, meazza, best, charlton, law, beckenbauer, moore??? god knows how many ive missed...

every football expert will tell you maradona better than pele... im not saying pele is shit, im saying hes not the best ever, hes one of them, know one will know how good he was against the the best teams in the world...

you read about pele and think hes the best player in the world, go do your homework

LOL at winning a world cup doesn't mean shit, and isn't Messi playing with the most great players around him. Isn't this nigga playing with Iniesta, Xavi,etc, oh wait you only use that excuse when it comes to Pele. Isn't Iniesta more accomplished, La Liga, Euro Cup, and World Cup titles?

Lets call the Euro leagues for what they are, they feed and leech off smaller leagues talent which all goes back to the money issue. It's all a money issue, nothing fucking else.

messi is also playing in the champions league and against the best teams in the world... unlike pele what pele did...

i said world cups dont mean shit to my point, not that they dont mean shit in general... players like george best played for northern ireland, never won or even played in world cup to my knowledge, but is still regarded as one of the goats...

im not saying pele isnt great, or one of the best ever... im saying hes not the best ever, look on the net, no experts or poles have him as the best ever... maradona was alot better... like i said, pele wasnt even the best player on his team... hes top 5 though...

go watch some espn best players ever docs on american tv and see what you think...

 

[Gooner]

Neymar is more skilled that Messi. What does Messi do, wait for Iniesta and Xavi to set up his left foot, because that's all he has.

Please tell me what has Messi done outside of Iniesta and Xavi, what has this dude done outside of club play.

Atleast we can say Christiano Ronaldo has won in both leagues and excelled in both. I bet money Messi wouldn't put up the number of goals he has in the EPL, no way in hell he would get the referee protection he does in La Liga.

wow i rly hope ur trolling

 

[water ur seeds]

since when winning the world cup doesn't mean shit?? seeds you got that construed. the entire England football team will trade in the premiere league medal an champs league for the greatest tournament on earth trophy(world cup). messi have great players around him as well on both Barcelona and Argentina. you coming across real bias homie

i didnt say that, see my last comment...

 

[northside7]

yo im making a new thread i'll post the link in here and get mods to sticky it...who r cheapseat mods btw?

@peagle5