The Last Days Of The Roc Pt 10:Dame Dash Discovers Jay-Z Is Making Moves W/ Def Jam

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$ineedmoney$;1952235 said:
Ummm....some shyt don't sound right to me. I mean what went down between CK and Jay back in the day don't affect our lives at all. But from all the information gathered here, Calvin Klein stated and I quote, Jay said to him "Oh, I got you" when he got realeased and came home. He met with Jay once, then after that, he met with Ty Ty from then on. Then still nothing transpired after those meetings. No position nowhere, no legit connections....nothing. Akon turned Calvin Klein legit, which was a blessing for CK. Akon looked out for real.

Now rewind back in the day when Jay was gonna' get pinched for attempted murder while connected with CK. CK does all he can to separate Jay from the attempted murder charge, and it also costs him $50,000 to give Jay a clean slate.

Now background stories to a lot of these artists are real interesting as we all here know. But I'mma compare a couple situations here.

Guru of Gangstarr back in the day ran with a man name Big Shug. Guru and Big Shug was hustling together to get dough for studio time and making demos. They formed Gangstarr together. But in the midst of gettin' money, Guru dipped out on Big Shug during a robbery and Shug didn't snitch and got pinched for it. After Shug came home, Guru and Primo broke off Shug crazy paper, put him back down with the Gangstarr Foundation and gave him guest spots on the album even though he wasn't signed to the record label as a contractual artist. They made good.

We all know Bigs story. Big caught slippin' in the street with heat and tosses it. Big and his manz D-Roc get swooped for the gun charge. It's Bigs gun right, but D-Roc takes the gun charge for Big to do good and give him a clean slate. When D-Roc got released and came home, Big had D-Roc right there with him everywhere he went. Put his manz on.

I'm not trying to say who's right or who's wrong, but shyt just seem a lil' fishy here. Something don't smell right. But if I come home and the second phone call I get is from Jay, it's obvious I did something for that man that he'll never forget. Then he tells me, "Oh, I got you" and nothing comes about it. I'd feel a certain way too. Even though CK is making a way for himself. He never asked anyone for money. He just wanted to be legit. That's just my thoughts on how I feel about it.

basically wat everybody sayin in here

but it was klien charge so i respect he took it like a man kept it 100, most men wouldnt do that. like he said he got out not expectin anything from jay, but jay called him and told him he was gon hold him down, but he aint keep his word, he shouldnt have never told him that if he aint truely mean it, or he should have told him why he changed his mind.

it a crazy thing bout jay, it seems if he has a problem wit his friends, he dont seem to want to take it head on, he just cuts the person off, without them knwing wat he was mad about
 
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lol at niggas debating these niggas ducktales

1st the nigga took over trenton at 15 now he caught a attempt case and was not charged cause another nigga said don't charge him lol
 
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thecomebacklegend;1952378 said:
lol at niggas debating these niggas ducktales

1st the nigga took over trenton at 15 now he caught a attempt case and was not charged cause another nigga said don't charge him lol

the niggaz who makin these clams hate jay-z, so i dont knw to tell you. KC said he caught a attempt case but jay aint do nothin he was just with him and KC took his charge.

and dehaven said him and his dudes took over block in NJ and NA and then came back to marcy and got jay to work the corners they had took over

it aint like jay did this stuff, the dude he hung wit did this. i never heard of jay speak of any of this stuff besides move work in NJ and VA
 
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imalreadydagoat504;1952449 said:
the niggaz who makin these clams hate jay-z, so i dont knw to tell you. KC said he caught a attempt case but jay aint do nothin he was just with him and KC took his charge.

and dehaven said him and his dudes took over block in NJ and NA and then came back to marcy and got jay to work the corners they had took over

it aint like jay did this stuff, the dude he hung wit did this. i never heard of jay speak of any of this stuff besides move work in NJ and VA

all that shit is ducktales

trenton is a bigger shit hole then bk so i have hard time believing this nigga would take over a area that is worst then where he from

and the south five o can't wait 2 harass niggas so i have a hard time believing he went down south

these niggas know these stories sell so they make up the shit.u would not know these niggas without these ducktales so of course they gonna keep the shit going
 
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thecomebacklegend;1952650 said:
all that shit is ducktales

trenton is a bigger shit hole then bk so i have hard time believing this nigga would take over a area that is worst then where he from

and the south five o can't wait 2 harass niggas so i have a hard time believing he went down south

these niggas know these stories sell so they make up the shit.u would not know these niggas without these ducktales so of course they gonna keep the shit going

i aint sayin they did it or not cause i wasnt there

but it documented many times, ny dudes went to VA, DC and NJ set up shop

shit i knw n.o. nigga thats all over the country that went wit a crew and set up shop somewhere
 
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bull6599;1928787 said:
Yeah. I dont think Jay's problem was that Dame was an asshole ...it's that he didnt know when to stop being 1. On the come up he had to be an asshole b/c being an NY artist in the mid 90's was hard w/ all the competition & how record execs would treat u coming from the street... but once Jay sold 5 mil, Roc-A-Wear sold $80M, movies, liquors, etc. ur point was proved. U prove4d ur not dumb & that ur a force to be reckoned w/ in the industry so why keep doing the same shit w/ lil progress & results. Jay was 1 of Def Jam's biggest artist, I'm sure they woulda gave dude whatever he wanted to appease him.

and this is why Def Jam no longer wanted to work with Dame...the same attitude that got him in the door got him kicked out
 
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blackrain;1953668 said:
and this is why Def Jam no longer wanted to work with Dame...the same attitude that got him in the door got him kicked out

Yeah agree especially on the bold.
 
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blackrain;1953668 said:
and this is why Def Jam no longer wanted to work with Dame...the same attitude that got him in the door got him kicked out

To use a sports analogy:

If you've ever played a team sport (say basketball) there is always that 1 hot headed nigga who cant control his emotions. The dude from the other team who he's matched up against knows this and does shit like elbow him in the rib cage & pinch him when the refs not looking hoping he'll pick up a tech or talk about his mom, sister, or gf hoping he gets mad. Eventually he gets upset & turns it into a 1-on-1 game & starts forcing up dumb shots & turning the ball over...well Dame is that nigga LOL. Eventually the other players on the team (Jay) start looking @ the coach like "this niggas fucking up, take him out!!!" or they just stop passing him the ball. Dame couldnt control his emotions & the brass @ Def Jam played on that shit to the bitter end. It's fucked up but they played that divide & conquer tactic perfectly.
 
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CirocObama;1951594 said:
Ohhhh so when Busta Rhymes said how JayZ used to ball its true but when niggas say Jay-Z wasnt shit before its "ahhhhh this nigga lyin" "aww he looking for attention"

HAHAAHAHAH NIGGAS IS HILARIOUS!!

youre a fuckin hater !!! LOL

this nigga claiming he knows crips in LA and king pins in new york but is calling jay z, a man who these people actually have stories about, ducktales??

LOL im calling your shit duck tales way before jay z or any rapper for that matter. who the fuck are you?? LOL you could be a white boy from iowa for all we know

every post you make reeks with hatred.

calvin klein admits that jay was willing to take an attempted murder charge for him, and the first thing you say is "i dont want niggas thinking jay z caught a body"

LOL nigga!! we know what the fuck an ATTEMPTED murder is. we know that you cant have a body if the person lived LOL. you are going as far as discrediting shit that these rappers arent even claiming to have done. we know that jay z most likely didnt even almost kill who ever almost died. WE KNOW NIGGA!!! LOL!!!

Ciroc: jay z aint no astronaut. that nigga aint never been to the international space station

US: but he never claimed to be an astronaut fam why are you telling us this??

Ciroc: whatever man!! yall niggas can think jay z is an astronaut who's been to the moon if you want SMH

US: wth ????

you're the only one who thinks jay z claimed to be top dog in NY on the streets. we dont think that cuzzin LOL .... why you are enforcing something like this is beyond me .. but its funny as shit

when jay z nas and biggie were all hollaring KONY ... they were talking about the rap game man not the drug game

this nigga claiming snoop wasnt a crip like there is some crip army base in LA that you have to go thru to join the gang LOL. nigga there are a million fucking crip in LA ... snoop being one is no big deal either way you look at it. fact is, he's been around more real shit and real street cats THAN YOU!!!! you never had a murder case snoop did

so i guess that fake too huh, i guess snoop didnt write his own lyrics huh, fuck it .... snoop doesnt even exist ... the real calvin brodus died in vegas next to pac ... you know niggas so you know the truth huh???

FOH !!!!! LMAO
 
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UPTOWN (CONNEXX);1954756 said:
youre a fuckin hater !!! LOL

this nigga claiming he knows crips in LA and king pins in new york but is calling jay z, a man who these people actually have stories about, ducktales??

LOL im calling your shit duck tales way before jay z or any rapper for that matter. who the fuck are you?? LOL you could be a white boy from iowa for all we know

every post you make reeks with hatred.

calvin klein admits that jay was willing to take an attempted murder charge for him, and the first thing you say is "i dont want niggas thinking jay z caught a body"

LOL nigga!! we know what the fuck an ATTEMPTED murder is. we know that you cant have a body if the person lived LOL. you are going as far as discrediting shit that these rappers arent even claiming to have done. we know that jay z most likely didnt even almost kill who ever almost died. WE KNOW NIGGA!!! LOL!!!

Ciroc: jay z aint no astronaut. that nigga aint never been to the international space station

US: but he never claimed to be an astronaut fam why are you telling us this??

Ciroc: whatever man!! yall niggas can think jay z is an astronaut who's been to the moon if you want SMH

US: wth ????


you're the only one who thinks jay z claimed to be top dog in NY on the streets. we dont think that cuzzin LOL .... why you are enforcing something like this is beyond me .. but its funny as shit

when jay z nas and biggie were all hollaring KONY ... they were talking about the rap game man not the drug game

this nigga claiming snoop wasnt a crip like there is some crip army base in LA that you have to go thru to join the gang LOL. nigga there are a million fucking crip in LA ... snoop being one is no big deal either way you look at it. fact is, he's been around more real shit and real street cats THAN YOU!!!! you never had a murder case snoop did

so i guess that fake too huh, i guess snoop didnt write his own lyrics huh, fuck it .... snoop doesnt even exist ... the real calvin brodus died in vegas next to pac ... you know niggas so you know the truth huh???

FOH !!!!! LMAO

lmaoooooooooooo
 
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UPTOWN (CONNEXX);1954756 said:
youre a fuckin hater !!! LOL

this nigga claiming he knows crips in LA and king pins in new york but is calling jay z, a man who these people actually have stories about, ducktales??

LOL im calling your shit duck tales way before jay z or any rapper for that matter. who the fuck are you?? LOL you could be a white boy from iowa for all we know

every post you make reeks with hatred.

calvin klein admits that jay was willing to take an attempted murder charge for him, and the first thing you say is "i dont want niggas thinking jay z caught a body"

LOL nigga!! we know what the fuck an ATTEMPTED murder is. we know that you cant have a body if the person lived LOL. you are going as far as discrediting shit that these rappers arent even claiming to have done. we know that jay z most likely didnt even almost kill who ever almost died. WE KNOW NIGGA!!! LOL!!!

Ciroc: jay z aint no astronaut. that nigga aint never been to the international space station

US: but he never claimed to be an astronaut fam why are you telling us this??

Ciroc: whatever man!! yall niggas can think jay z is an astronaut who's been to the moon if you want SMH

US: wth ????

you're the only one who thinks jay z claimed to be top dog in NY on the streets. we dont think that cuzzin LOL .... why you are enforcing something like this is beyond me .. but its funny as shit

when jay z nas and biggie were all hollaring KONY ... they were talking about the rap game man not the drug game

this nigga claiming snoop wasnt a crip like there is some crip army base in LA that you have to go thru to join the gang LOL. nigga there are a million fucking crip in LA ... snoop being one is no big deal either way you look at it. fact is, he's been around more real shit and real street cats THAN YOU!!!! you never had a murder case snoop did

so i guess that fake too huh, i guess snoop didnt write his own lyrics huh, fuck it .... snoop doesnt even exist ... the real calvin brodus died in vegas next to pac ... you know niggas so you know the truth huh???

FOH !!!!! LMAO

damn i lmao after this post, but this was exactly wat he was doin
 
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blackrain;1953668 said:
and this is why Def Jam no longer wanted to work with Dame...the same attitude that got him in the door got him kicked out

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