The Last Days Of The Roc Pt 10:Dame Dash Discovers Jay-Z Is Making Moves W/ Def Jam

Who gives a fuck what Calvin Klein gotta say...Such a hustler but, he talking about why another man aint look out...its backwards...

Charge it to the game & move the fuck on...

read the interview dude ...

I got so much going on. I got the book deal going on, I got a movie situation going on you know I got a new company right now, I got a hotel booking agency that’s crazy… all I deal with is like exclusive artists and elite people in the industry. It’s not even just the music industry. I deal with 5 star people. My service deal was nothing but like 5 star people doing like 100 rooms a month type shit. I’ve got a hell of a company that I just recently started and it’s doing extremely well.

he is making moves ... whats wrong with him telling it how he sees it ?

read the interview and u will see that he isn't trying to clown jay .... grow up dude seriously .

 

[Maalik]

Because he INVESTED in him goofy nigga. And he put time and effort into building/helping Jay-Z. Read the damn interview. You act like dude been runnin' a campaign about this shit. He's been quiet about the whole Jay-Z shit for YEARS.

But he still talk about it...let it go.

How you invest in a nigga when you been locked up since the late 80s. Jay didn't get on til 96. You can't help build nothing that wasn't already a gem in the first place. Don't be running around saying you made a nigga. There's a million "investments" out there & every now & then, someone gets "lucky" to find one that grew into something substantial. Best believe, if he aint get down with Jay, another nigga would've. You think Mark Zuckerberg says Peter Thiel helped build him LOL. Fuck no. If anything, Peter Thiel kisses Mark's feet that he essentially gave him 500k for 1.6 Billion. Because Mark/Facebook would've been successful regardless. His "investors" aint make him. He did. Same with Hov.

I just hate cats like that. If you were so instrumental in a nigga's success, why can't you apply that to yourself. And you calling yourself a hustler. Get out of here B!

 

[Maalik]

I read the interview bruh....Im not like these niggas on here. I dont talk shit or enter an argument without reading shit.


At the end of the day, this nigga Calvin talking about Hov to bring shine to himself & pump whatever endeavors he got going on. Shaunie O'neal ass nigga.That's it. And..................its corny.

 

u fuck ass clowns need to get off that niggas nuts and just read the interview with a open fucking mind for once....

its ok if he wasnt a big time nigga in the streets ... get the fuck over it already .

why the fuck would klein try clowning jay .... he is part of the reason whether it knowledge influence or inspiration that jay is who he is ....

u niggas ride that fucking man so fucking much its ashame ... read the fucking real interview and see what being a built from scratch leader is about ... no manufactured shit ...

 

[usmarin3]

LOL @ Irv Gotti. How the fuck you gon' name some damn CEO about who was in the streets? You might as well ask Puffy. SMH.

Jaz-O also said Jay-Z wasn't in the streets. So he said both. However Calvin Klein was the REAL street dude. Jaz-O was more of a rapper compared to Calvin. I mean Calvin invested in him and has a big rep in the streets. I dont know too much about Jaz-O but we can all agree that he wasn't on CK's level.

My point however is that when shit like this gets reported about other rappers they're IMMEDIATELY written off as "fake", but when it's Jay-Z niggas wanna argue. Including you. Let's face it Jay-Z has created a big brand for himself and he is a talented MC i will say, but he's not no street dude.

But if you read my first sentence i did say "I can't say he NEVER sold drugs" cuz anybody can sell drugs. Snoop ain't no gangbangin' super crip but he sold drugs for a lil while but Snoop wouldn't hurt a fly back then. So anybody can sell a drug.

But that image Jay-Z has created as this big drug dealing big willy with tons of weight in the streets is HELLA FAKE. Just be honest.

WTF, goes to show how little and sparse your hiphop knowledge is dude, you are your mind if you think Irv has always been a coorporate dude, like he doesn't have street ties. All them niggas came from the streets.

Jazo said Jay wasn't in the streets huh, ok because how did Rocafella start up and don't say Dame and Biggs, because why would you split profits 3 ways if a nigga ain't chip in equally. How do you explain numerous niggas saying he was in DC and VA hustlin, how do you explain niggas he ran with (Emory) doing 15 plus years in prison. Sounds to me like a small time nigga!

The only niggas you ever hear call it fake is niggas who have financial or business bitterness with him (Jazo, CK, and Dehaven). Why would CK and Dehaven have issues with dude if he was some petty drug dealer, they wouldn't feel no type of way if he was some nickle and bagger dude. Use some fucking logic nigga!

Petty time drug dealers would of been exposed by know and if CK and Dehaven were as heavy as they think they are, they wouldn't even care what some small time nigga like Jay did with his career post drug game and don't say it's based on friendship either because we've seen how Jay has treated Emory.

 

[CirocObama]

But he still talk about it...let it go.

How you invest in a nigga when you been locked up since the late 80s. Jay didn't get on til 96. You can't help build nothing that wasn't already a gem in the first place. Don't be running around saying you made a nigga. There's a million "investments" out there & every now & then, someone gets "lucky" to find one that grew into something substantial. Best believe, if he aint get down with Jay, another nigga would've. You think Mark Zuckerberg says Peter Thiel helped build him LOL. Fuck no. If anything, Peter Thiel kisses Mark's feet that he essentially gave him 500k for 1.6 Billion. Because he would've been successful regardless.

I just hate cats like that. If you were so instrumental in a nigga's success, why can't you apply that to yourself. And you calling yourself a hustler. Get out of here B!

Woow you really don't know how the street works huh? I think no matter what i say you'll defend Jay-Z so im not gonna bother arguin' with you. Just so you know Jay-Z has gave dude credit and said that without him (and a few more) Jay-Z prolly wouldn't have made it in the rap game. So check ya self.

 

But he still talk about it...let it go.

How you invest in a nigga when you been locked up since the late 80s. Jay didn't get on til 96. You can't help build nothing that wasn't already a gem in the first place. Don't be running around saying you made a nigga. There's a million "investments" out there & every now & then, someone gets "lucky" to find one that grew into something substantial. Best believe, if he aint get down with Jay, another nigga would've. You think Mark Zuckerberg says Peter Thiel helped build him LOL. Fuck no. If anything, Peter Thiel kisses Mark's feet that he essentially gave him 500k for 1.6 Billion. Because he would've been successful regardless.

I just hate cats like that. If you were so instrumental in a nigga's success, why can't you apply that to yourself. And you calling yourself a hustler. Get out of here B!

where did he say he was instrumental to jays success ... fuck nigga he said all he wanted to do was GET UNDER JAY TO LEARN FROM HIM HOW THAT GAME WORKS .... he is paying jay homage musically but damn nigga u cant seem to see it for what it is ....

 

[Maalik]

u fuck ass clowns need to get off that niggas nuts and just read the interview with a open fucking mind for once....

its ok if he wasnt a big time nigga in the streets ... get the fuck over it already .

why the fuck would klein try clowning jay .... he is part of the reason whether it knowledge influence or inspiration that jay is who he is ....

u niggas ride that fucking man so fucking much its ashame ... read the fucking real interview and see what being a built from scratch leader is about ... no manufactured shit ...

I read every article from Calvin Klein, to Jaz-O, to Dehaven, to Dame...

They all got one thing in common...

Upset as fuck that when the dust settled, they lost out...

I hope none of yall niggas work in Corporate America with yall soft ass...

 

[CirocObama]

WTF, goes to show how little and sparse your hiphop knowledge is dude, you are your mind if you think Irv has always been a coorporate dude, like he doesn't have street ties. All them niggas came from the streets.

Jazo said Jay wasn't in the streets huh, ok because how did Rocafella start up and don't Dame and Biggs, because why would you split profits 3 ways if a nigga ain't chip in equally. How do you explain numerous niggas saying he was in DC and VA hustlin, how do you explain niggas he ran with (Emory) doing 15 plus years in prison. Sounds to me like a small time nigga!

The only niggas you ever hear call it fake is niggas who have financial or business bitterness with him (Jazo, CK, and Dehaven). Why would CK and Dehaven have issues with dude if he was some petty drug dealer, they wouldn't feel no type of way if he was some nickle and bagger dude. Use some fucking logic nigga!

Petty time drug dealers would of been exposed by know and if CK and Dehaven were as heavy as they think they are, they wouldn't even care what some small time nigga like Jay did with his career post drug game and don't say it's based on friendship either because we've seen how Jay has treated Emory.

LLOL you REALLY don't know shit if you think Irv came from the streets. Im talkin about the REAL streets. All that niggas cred comes from Supreme. Like i said, stop talkin' unless you know. Nigga DMX and Ghostface got bigger reps than Irv Gotti nigga stop playin'.

Because Jay-Z is the one with the talent wtf. You think dude is supposed to get 0 $? It's a BUSINESS, it's just handled street wise. Jay-Z is the talent, CK was the muscle, Dame was the brains etc. Does that mean Jay-Z was this drug kingpin? Hell fuckin' no.

The same arguments you making for him you could make about the same niggas errbody likes to call fake.

And lol @ dudes who claimed Jay-Z was hustlin in VA and shit. Who was that? Ty Ty? LMAO some Internet dude? Look like i said Snoop got caught for sellin coke..but Snoop was still a church boy growing up who used to call himself Silky Slim or some shit cuz he was influenced more so by 70's music and used to rock them box fades and shit. Does that mean he NEVER sold drugs? Nope. But he wasn't hard, had weight nor was a real Crip.

Same thing goes for every rapper. You just not man enough to face reality.

 

[usmarin3]

I read every article from Calvin Klein, to Jaz-O, to Dehaven, to Dame...

They all got one thing in common...

Upset as fuck that when the dust settled, they lost out...

I hope none of yall niggas work in Corporate America with yall soft ass...

Don't pay not attention with that BestBuy nigga, he doesn't understand business and life, he's one of those niggas who walk around life with his hands out. One of them niggas who base friendships on what someone else can do for him.

 

[Maalik]

Woow you really don't know how the street works huh? I think no matter what i say you'll defend Jay-Z so im not gonna bother arguin' with you. Just so you know Jay-Z has gave dude credit and said that without him (and a few more) Jay-Z prolly wouldn't have made it in the rap game. So check ya self.

Im from Philly lol...

Most of my family is "out there"...

Hov probably rode in that nigga car 4 times or bought an ounce of weed off him & all of sudden Jay spose to owe that nigga a grip of dough when he get out. Nah b. You dont even know if Calvin the only cat. Imagine how many other niggas Jay know from Brooklyn/Marcy that "called" him once he succeeded. It gets annoying.

You dont understand this "Corporate" shit...

Regardless if this is Hip Hop or not, You not gonna be a CEO & want to keep your old Prison friends around you. Its bad business.

 

WTF, goes to show how little and sparse your hiphop knowledge is dude, you are your mind if you think Irv has always been a coorporate dude, like he doesn't have street ties. All them niggas came from the streets.Jazo said Jay wasn't in the streets huh, ok because how did Rocafella start up and don't say Dame and Biggs, because why would you split profits 3 ways if a nigga ain't chip in equally. How do you explain numerous niggas saying he was in DC and VA hustlin, how do you explain niggas he ran with (Emory) doing 15 plus years in prison. Sounds to me like a small time nigga!

The only niggas you ever hear call it fake is niggas who have financial or business bitterness with him (Jazo, CK, and Dehaven). Why would CK and Dehaven have issues with dude if he was some petty drug dealer, they wouldn't feel no type of way if he was some nickle and bagger dude. Use some fucking logic nigga!

Petty time drug dealers would of been exposed by know and if CK and Dehaven were as heavy as they think they are, they wouldn't even care what some small time nigga like Jay did with his career post drug game and don't say it's based on friendship either because we've seen how Jay has treated Emory.

shut the fuck up spilling lies into this authentic thread u fuck nigga ...

I got the fucking book in my shelf about the whole queens background from the 80's up until 05 .... irv was a fucking middle class kid who used to dj ... the nigga is from hollis and is brother had associates in the streets but chris lorenzo would tell u himself that irv was no fucking street cat ...

irv didnt meet preem until late 90's on the set of a ja rule video "for the fortune" in jamaica queens ... he was in awe to see the small green eyed cat that went by "supreme" ...

your great at riding jays dick USmarine ... but dont even think about trying to come in this thread like u know the history of how things worked before the platinum plaques u "FAN" ...

 

[Maalik]

Don't pay not attention with that BestBuy nigga, he doesn't understand business and life, he's one of those niggas who walk around life with his hands out. One of them niggas who base friendships on what someone else can do for him.

It dont make sense bruh...

I'm in college & i dont like hangin around with unscrupulous individuals...

Nigga....If I was a Multi-Millionaire CEO, I ain't kicking with no fucking gangstas no more...get serious...

 

[usmarin3]

LLOL you REALLY don't know shit if you think Irv came from the streets. All that niggas cred comes from Supreme. Like i said, stop talkin' unless you know. Nigga DMX and Ghostface got bigger reps than Irv Gotti nigga stop playin'.

Because Jay-Z is the one with the talent wtf. You think dude is supposed to get 0 $? It's a BUSINESS, it's just handled street wise. Jay-Z is the talent, CK was the muscle, Dame was the brains etc. Does that mean Jay-Z was this drug kingpin? Hell fuckin' no.

The same arguments you making for him you could make about the same niggas errbody likes to call fake.

How the fuck would you know what Irv Street rep is, ain't you in Chicago nigga, what you think you know because you watched one too many Ashanti and Ja lovely dovey video. Stop making assumptions off people, and how they present themselves in the corporate world.

So an exec is just gonna split a business 1/3 with the talent, you acting like Dame was some green nigga off the streets and wasn't managing other artist at the time. If Jay was some regular artist like you claim, give his ass a regular artist contract and charge him managerial fees, not give him 1/3 of your business. Correct me if i'm wrong, CK was in prison at the time so how in the hell was he the muscle, from my understanding it was Jay, Dame, Biggs, Ty Ty, and B High, where does CK come into play?

Who are these other people you are talking about, stop the blanket statement nonsense?

 

Im from Philly lol...

Most of my family is "out there"...

Hov probably rode in that nigga car 4 times or bought an ounce of weed off him & all of sudden Jay spose to owe that nigga a grip of dough when he get out. Nah b. You dont even know if Calvin the only cat. Imagine how many other niggas Jay know from Brooklyn/Marcy that "called" him once he succeeded. It gets annoying.

You dont understand this "Corporate" shit...

Regardless if this is Hip Hop or not, You not gonna be a CEO & want to keep your old Prison friends around you. Its bad business.

I understand that u may have people who are "out there" but listen my nigga HE IS NOT SAYING JAY OWES HIM JAY CALLED THAT MAN AND TOLD HIM THAT HE HAD HIM WHEN HE CAME HOME ... he didnt even expect a call from jay ... is that clear enough for u ...

even though things didnt happen the way jay told him he still tips his hat to the man MUSICALLY ... he just questions his character ... HE IS GOOD HE HAS ASSETS AND INVESTMENTS ... he made moves 15years before jay touched a million my dude ...

read the interview and give the man some type of due quit trying to automatically shit on niggas ... he did a lengthy bid came home made moves and is right back on his way to touching the millions he touched in the streets in a legit fashion ...

why are u ignoring the facts that dude has a position with akons konvict music ... has his own company ... has his own hotel booking agency ...

DID U REALLY READ THE INTERVIEW >>

 

[CirocObama]

Im from Philly lol...

Most of my family is "out there"...

Hov probably rode in that nigga car 4 times or bought an ounce of weed off him & all of sudden Jay spose to owe that nigga a grip of dough when he get out. Nah b. You dont even know if Calvin the only cat. Imagine how many other niggas Jay know from Brooklyn/Marcy that "called" him once he succeeded. It gets annoying.

You dont understand this "Corporate" shit...

Regardless if this is Hip Hop or not, You not gonna be a CEO & want to keep your old Prison friends around you. Its bad business.

Nigga i understand your point. I understand what you're saying. You talkin' about them bitter dudes who since they can't cash in no more all of a sudden they wanna say some shit right? But it's the same with EVERY RAPPER. But if you look at the FACTS of EVERYTHING that's been said and claimed shit really doesn't add up with Jay-Z and alot of other rappers.

But like i said i said the same shit about 2 of my favorite rappers of all time so dont think im saying this cuz i hate Jay-Z or some shit. I believe this is the case wiht 98% of these rappers. The problem is that niggas wanna call rappers who they dont like fake, but cant be men enough (even though they not teenagers anymore) to say taht they fav rapper prolly aint tough/hard/gangsta/drug dealer either.

You'd be suprised to find out that DJ Quik got more rep than most of your fav rappers.

 

[usmarin3]

It dont make sense bruh...

I'm in college & i dont like hangin around with unscrupulous individuals...

Nigga....If I was a Multi-Millionaire CEO, I ain't kicking with no fucking gangstas no more...get serious...

You would think niggas would learn from Irv Gotti and Master P's situation, these feds are looking for niggas to slip up. It's easy to catch a conspiracy and laundering charge mixing legit business practices with street niggas.

 

[CirocObama]

You would think niggas would learn from Irv Gotti and Master P's situation, these feds are looking for niggas to slip up. It's easy to catch a conspiracy and laundering charge mixing legit business practices with street niggas.

LMAO okay you win dawg. Everybody in the IC know there's nothin you can say about Jay-Z with you. Okay you win Jay-Z was a big willie, Irv Gotti was a known street nigga etc etc. Why waste our times on this petty shit when you'll ride with Jay regardless, even when facts are in your face.

 

How the fuck would you know what Irv Street rep is, ain't you in Chicago nigga, what you think you know because you watched one too many Ashanti and Ja lovely dovey video. Stop making assumptions off people, and how they present themselves in the corporate world.

So an exec is just gonna split a business 1/3 with the talent, you acting like Dame was some green nigga off the streets and wasn't managing other artist at the time. If Jay was some regular artist like you claim, give his ass a regular artist contract and charge him managerial fees, not give him 1/3 of your business. Correct me if i'm wrong, CK was in prison at the time so how in the hell was he the muscle, from my understanding it was Jay, Dame, Biggs, Ty Ty, and B High, where does CK come into play?

Who are these other people you are talking about, stop the blanket statement nonsense?

how the fuck would u know anyones rep aint u some fucking island nigga with a middle class background down in florida who doesnt even interact with people of the same shade ....?

 

LMAO okay you win dawg. Everybody in the IC know there's nothin you can say about Jay-Z with you. Okay you win Jay-Z was a big willie, Irv Gotti was a known street nigga etc etc. Why waste our times on this petty shit when you'll ride with Jay regardless, even when facts are in your face.

u see that clown ass buffoon dodged me all together when I put the shit DEAD IN HIS FACE ....

if jay was to tell usmarine to his face that yes calvin klein was a major influence on me from a hustle standpoint usmarine would tell jay that he is a liar .....

its like that nigga thinks he knows jay better than sean knows jay ... Smh