The Last Days Of The Roc Pt 10:Dame Dash Discovers Jay-Z Is Making Moves W/ Def Jam

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bull6599;1944689 said:
Actually Def Jam owned 50% of the ROC. They bought a 50% stake for $1.5M in 97 when they signed the 1st distribution deal.

"Jay, Dash and Burke recently renewed their contract with Def Jam for a reported $20 million. They brought Roc-A-Fella to the label in 1997 and sold the initial half-stake to Def Jam at that time for $1.5 million."

http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1494616/jayz-dame-dash-sell-rocafella-records.jhtml

Jay just didnt like them niggas LOL...

"M.O.P. and the Dips were set to go out on the road with State Property for the Roc Army Tour in May. However, since Jay-Z announced his headlining role on the Roc the Mic Tour, the Roc Army Tour has been shelved (see "50 Cent, Jay-Z Set To 'Roc The Mic' ").

"I'm just telling you the story, and you take it as you want to take it," Santana said with regard to the botched tour plans. "The fact was, we was supposed to be doing Roc-A-Fella's tour, [and it would include] everybody on Roc-A-Fella except Jay-Z. Doesn't make sense to me. Jay is on Roc-A-Fella and he's going on tour with 50 Cent. Why are you not going on the Roc Army Tour? I have no problems with this, though. I'm just saying — it's a Roc-A-Fella tour and it's your label."

Juelz and the Dips were left scratching their heads even more when the entire roster of the would-be Roc Army Tour were called to join Jay on the Roc the Mic Tour — except them.

"Basically you leaving us with no tour," he said. "We're caked up anyway. We gonna find other ways to do it." "

http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1472682/juelz-santana-drop-solo-lp.jhtml

Yeah I remember that huge Roc Army tour getting cancelled. There was even flyers on the net and had a huge roster on it. Noreaga was even on it. Maybe it is true that Billy Danze snuffed Jay for phucking up the tour plans. M.O.P. was gonna' eat off that. LOL
 
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darkrain;1944706 said:
If Jay-Z didn't like them then why did he end up on Cam"Ron's song Welcome To NYC"?

It's funny...

..because when you don't like something or someone you suppose to man up and express that shit out the open. But Jay never did that and never expressed to Dame that signing Cam'ron wouldn't be a good idea. So you tell me..who was actually running the show?
 
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darkrain;1944706 said:
If Jay-Z didn't like them then why did he end up on Cam"Ron's song Welcome To NYC"?

It was a last minute addition to the album honestly. Cam had been dissing Jay back in like 99/00 on NYC mixtapes so there was some tension there from the jump, but w/ all the beef they had been in recently (Jay vs. nas, Beans vs. Jada, etc.) I guess they felt like they needed to show some unity. Plus Dame prolly asked him to do it but he prob didnt really want to.
 
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bull6599;1944689 said:
Actually Def Jam owned 50% of the ROC. They bought a 50% stake for $1.5M in 97 when they signed the 1st distribution deal.

"Jay, Dash and Burke recently renewed their contract with Def Jam for a reported $20 million. They brought Roc-A-Fella to the label in 1997 and sold the initial half-stake to Def Jam at that time for $1.5 million."

http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1494616/jayz-dame-dash-sell-rocafella-records.jhtml

Jay just didnt like them niggas LOL...

"M.O.P. and the Dips were set to go out on the road with State Property for the Roc Army Tour in May. However, since Jay-Z announced his headlining role on the Roc the Mic Tour, the Roc Army Tour has been shelved (see "50 Cent, Jay-Z Set To 'Roc The Mic' ").

"I'm just telling you the story, and you take it as you want to take it," Santana said with regard to the botched tour plans. "The fact was, we was supposed to be doing Roc-A-Fella's tour, [and it would include] everybody on Roc-A-Fella except Jay-Z. Doesn't make sense to me. Jay is on Roc-A-Fella and he's going on tour with 50 Cent. Why are you not going on the Roc Army Tour? I have no problems with this, though. I'm just saying — it's a Roc-A-Fella tour and it's your label."

Juelz and the Dips were left scratching their heads even more when the entire roster of the would-be Roc Army Tour were called to join Jay on the Roc the Mic Tour — except them.

"Basically you leaving us with no tour," he said. "We're caked up anyway. We gonna find other ways to do it." "

http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1472682/juelz-santana-drop-solo-lp.jhtml

He Left Dip Set off the tour LOL...

They was the hottest squad on Rocafella...no diss to SP
 
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bull6599;1944727 said:
It was a last minute addition to the album honestly. Cam had been dissing Jay back in like 99/00 on NYC mixtapes so there was some tension there from the jump, but w/ all the beef they had been in recently (Jay vs. nas, Beans vs. Jada, etc.) I guess they felt like they needed to show some unity. Plus Dame prolly asked him to do it but he prob didnt really want to.

Oh yeah, you're right...the tension from Cam dissing Jay back then didn't help much neither. But Dame use to manage Cam during the Children of the Corn days...why would he say no?

Jay should have just kept it real from jump.
 
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Disciplined InSight;1944741 said:
Oh yeah, you're right...the tension from Cam dissing Jay back then didn't help much neither. But Dame use to manage Cam during the Children of the Corn days...why would he say no?

Jay should have just kept it real from jump.

Kinda corny considering Nas ethered Jay's existence & they've collaborated alot.
 
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bull6599;1944689 said:
Actually Def Jam owned 50% of the ROC. They bought a 50% stake for $1.5M in 97 when they signed the 1st distribution deal.

"Jay, Dash and Burke recently renewed their contract with Def Jam for a reported $20 million. They brought Roc-A-Fella to the label in 1997 and sold the initial half-stake to Def Jam at that time for $1.5 million."

http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1494616/jayz-dame-dash-sell-rocafella-records.jhtml

Jay just didnt like them niggas LOL...

"M.O.P. and the Dips were set to go out on the road with State Property for the Roc Army Tour in May. However, since Jay-Z announced his headlining role on the Roc the Mic Tour, the Roc Army Tour has been shelved (see "50 Cent, Jay-Z Set To 'Roc The Mic' ").

"I'm just telling you the story, and you take it as you want to take it," Santana said with regard to the botched tour plans. "The fact was, we was supposed to be doing Roc-A-Fella's tour, [and it would include] everybody on Roc-A-Fella except Jay-Z. Doesn't make sense to me. Jay is on Roc-A-Fella and he's going on tour with 50 Cent. Why are you not going on the Roc Army Tour? I have no problems with this, though. I'm just saying — it's a Roc-A-Fella tour and it's your label."

Juelz and the Dips were left scratching their heads even more when the entire roster of the would-be Roc Army Tour were called to join Jay on the Roc the Mic Tour — except them.

"Basically you leaving us with no tour," he said. "We're caked up anyway. We gonna find other ways to do it." "

http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1472682/juelz-santana-drop-solo-lp.jhtml

He's on here saying that "they" (Dame, Jay, Biggs) own their own company. Either they didn't own the whole ROC stake or he's just bullshitting. He says at 1:55 "that we own our own company we look like artists"

[video=youtube;ZLrNfwAmidc]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZLrNfwAmidc[/video]
 
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Disciplined InSight;1944725 said:
It's funny...

..because when you don't like something or someone you suppose to man up and express that shit out the open. But Jay never did that and never expressed to Dame that signing Cam'ron wouldn't be a good idea. So you tell me..who was actually running the show?

Didnt he sign them w/o talkin to Jay as well? I know he signed Joe Budden & ODB w/o talkin to Jay & when Jay found out he wasnt feelin it. Hell ODB didnt erven know he was signed to the ROC...

[video=youtube;X4IDg2UAiEg]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X4IDg2UAiEg[/video]
 
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"Y'all got 25% and then what's her name got 25%"

-Dame to Kev Lyles

Was he talking specifically about the "Hard Knock Life Tour?"
 
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bull6599;1944775 said:
Didnt he sign them w/o talkin to Jay as well? I know he signed Joe Budden & ODB w/o talkin to Jay & when Jay found out he wasnt feelin it. Hell ODB didnt erven know he was signed to the ROC...

[video=youtube;X4IDg2UAiEg]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X4IDg2UAiEg[/video]

I've never seen this. I knew about Buddens but I thought that it wasn't offical I thought it was verbal agreement. Joe said that was why Jay had him black balled when he was on Def Jam when Jay was president.
 
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dalyricalbandit;1944795 said:
The cam and jay beef i think steamed from the lance stabbin

Either it was over him bootlegging Vol. 3 or it was over Charli Baltimore. Jay names drops her on in"Allure" on The Black Album when he said, "All the Christy’s in every city and Tiffany Lanes we're all hustlers in love with the same thing...". Tiffany Lane was Charli's real name.
 
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llahsram;1944875 said:
either it was over him bootlegging vol. 3 or it was over charli baltimore. Jay names drops her on in"allure" on the black album when he said, "all the christy’s in every city and tiffany lanes we're all hustlers in love with the same thing...". Tiffany lane was charli's real name.

these were my to guesses for that beef
 
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it's a bit odd how obsessed some of you are with roc a fella jay-z and dame dash.

outside of this board noone really talking about or thinking about dame dash like you guys everyday.

only reason i'd see people bringing up dame dash is in relation to currency.
 
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Aztec_Kang;1944928 said:
it's a bit odd how obsessed some of you are with roc a fella jay-z and dame dash.

outside of this board noone really talking about or thinking about dame dash like you guys everyday.

only reason i'd see people bringing up dame dash is in relation to currency.

I guess because it didn't have to end the way it did.
 
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Disciplined InSight;1944936 said:
I guess because it didn't have to end the way it did.

oh boo hoo. who gives a fuck? business is business. make a donation to dame dash if you're so worried about his well being.
 
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